It’s Bingin’ time!
I just switched all my systems over to mint. I used to think Linux was the “just at work” environment. But now I’m flipping it. I’m sick of Windows, I know it’s less hassle but my digital well-being needs a break from ads.
It is truly the year of the Linux desktop.
They about to find out the only reason people don’t use Linux is because Windows is ‘convenient.’
Windows: System needs repairing Me: proceeds to install linux mint
I just rolled back my Win 11 to Win 10 only to use temporarily while I test some other distros to see which one(s) I like.
Shout out to Ventoy, my new favorite usb utility.
better than flashing usb flash drives to install operating systems.
Truly a “where have you been all my life” moment. It even works with recovery ISOs!
I’ll never flash another usb again if I can help it.
I have a 128gb usb c flash drive that I just dropped a ton of distros onto and went to town. So far, EndeaverOS has been my favorite.
Even 10 has annoying popups all the time. And they added AI to the bottom right hand corner where I’ve accidentally clicked on it twice now.
Here’s a tool to permanently fix your windows installation from all this BS.
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I think today might be the day. I’m tired of every piece of tech’s infuriatingly enshittification of things. I wanted to google something normal only for the AI to spout nonhelpful, sponsored links. I’m sick of it ALL!!! I wanna burn silicon valley down and start fresh at this point
Do it, fucking go crazy, let all your weird fucked up dark fantasies out, as both a very chaotic person but also a very thoughtful and caring person, fucking now is the time to do it.
Linux has gotten really good, drivers are good. You can do it and your headaches will be so much less in the end.
Come over to the bright side.
Let your dark fantasies about doing lots of dirty things through the command line or whatever come true. Install a bunch of open source software and don’t even tell your husband.
It is 2024 do whatever the fuck you want, corporations have completely folded their hands and completely quit even playing the game of providing you (not rich person) with functional visions of products or even functional products. Why? I don’t even know honestly, I mean I am definitely a nerd about open source software and a raging socialist but it is truly astonishing how quick enshittification is in this late stage of 2024, it is the continual experience of standing im front of a massive glacier and watching square kilometer chunks calving and collapsing for no apparent logical reason.
searxng is awesome. Meta search of as many or as few engines as you want with no bullshit.
How is this not fraud?
It’s a simple question. They are deliberately misleading and lying to customers for unlawful corporate gain.
Hey, my weekly reminder to tell you that I, a Windows 11 user on five computers without any special tweaks, have never seen a single one of those ads people keep talking about on Lemmy.
So you’re saying you, a windows 11 user on five computers running Microsoft’s default preferred configuration don’t receive any nagware notifications for deviating from Microsoft’s preferred configuration? Fascinating
People have been talking about start menu ads for over a year, never seen one
I don’t use Edge, never seen a pop-up asking me to switch
The subtitle of the article says it’s not available in the US -
PC Manager app is only available in some regions, but could come to the US eventually
Same here. No idea how it works and where those ads are…
Big corps love A/B testing, slow rollouts and geo-restricted features. You might be in a different group than people that get all these ads.
On five computers, for something I’ve been reading about for over a year?
Literally got a pop up today for their dumbass PC manager.
Are you living in the same country as those that complain about ads in windows? From what I understand, this is not rolled out globally yet.
I love how the lemmy FoSS Linux hivemind still down votes you to almost oblivion.
They still haven’t figured out this isn’t reddit. Shouldn’t downvote just because you don’t agree with something my dudes…
Just turn off “show scores” in your profile and you’ll be happier. It’s a meaningless number anyway.
It’s just a “I disagree” button for most ppl. Also windows do be that bad, you’ve used it so long you don’t notice or know any better.
Replying from Ubuntu (distro of the month for me) though, so I know other. I wouldn’t say better, just different
Windows is perfectly fine for day to day use. 80% of my PC use (and probably 99% for like most people I know) is in a browser. The remaining 20% is in video games. My browser works 100% the same in Linux as it does in Windows. Video games overall are easier to use in Windows. (I use Steam (90% fine with Linux) and Gamepass, which does not play well with Linux).
But feel free to continue to complain about windows :)
Windows at this point is barely an OS anymore, it’s freemium, it exists solely to push ads and their other products. You say it yourself, most people just use the browser, but hey today windows wants you to use edge, onedrive, outlook, the office suite… and they’re taking every step to make sure you do. Their unique goal is to lock you into their ecosystem and make more money off you.
There not doing a very good job of locking people in tbh. Basically all software runs fine on windows.
Its an absolute non issue to run non MS apps on windows.
They can’t be too heavy handed, otherwise they’ll end up with another IE lawsuit that fucked them over. Instead what you have is windows slowly creeping up the enshittification, slowly pushing the boundaries of what they’re allowed to do, and doing so regionally too, with the EU getting less shit shoveled in.
They still haven’t figured out this isn’t reddit. Shouldn’t downvote just because you don’t agree with something my dudes…
Well, that’s not a feature of reddit after all. People are the same, no matter where they are.
this isn’t reddit.
Correct, hence downvoting here is meaningless.
I don’t even see downvotes or the downvote button on mine. Which is fine. If I disagree with someone I’ll do it via a comment. Downvoting is just lazy.
If only there was a convenient way to indicate they don’t agree with someone’s comment/point…maybe the technology doesn’t exist
Same? I’m really confused which ads they’re taking about
I just installed Win11 on a work computer last week, and there were at least 3 screens of the installer trying to push o365 or one drive.
Then you have the start menu where if you look for a software, 90% of the menu is an ad trying to push you a software. At the bottom, you have your search results.
And then there is the pop ups on the bottom right of the screen trying to sell you Candy Crush or another bullshit software.
That’s awful and I’m glad it wasn’t my computer
not sure where all those ads are here unless you mean the search queries on the web??
I don’t have the pc with me anymore, but I will try to find a screenshot that was circulating around with a ton of ads, which was my experience as well.
No one needs search queries from the web in their start menu. If I want to search the web I’ll use a web browser.
it’s not the start menu it’s specifically when you press the search button and start typing.
When I press the winkey and search (which is the most efficient way to search the start menu) I get web search shit in the results. This is not desirable.
Are you on an enterprise subscription / office 365 work or school account or something like that?
it’s windows 11 home with a 365 family subscription.
right? the clickbait is just absurd. and i say this as someone who lived through the whole slashdot “m$” phase where you couldn’t blink without seeing an anti microsoft piece on there
Lemmy demographic feels like mostly Linux users.
Lemmy posters are on vegan level of promoting Linux, and sith level of hate on Windows.
For me, as a vegan Linux user, who really doesn’t like the concept of the Jedi sect, this sounds like a compliment.
Join the dark side! We have penguins!
aye, but do you have a way of managing a physical (noy virtual machine) windows computer so it can be used through the linux system without being aware of it?
Like RDP? Or are we talking like, some sort of ssh GUI, where you just wanna access the files on the Windows machine? Most file explorers on Linux do that natively. Or are you talking about compatibility with .exe files? If so, there’s Wine and Proton, but those could need some configuration.
Unfortunately, if you’re managing one computer from another computer, you’re going to be aware of it regardless of which OS you decide to use.
I was more thinking of rdp like things like the pi kvm, hopefully there will eventually be lower latency options.
We also have dragons and other things too!
Microsoft always treated linux and foss with such disdain while under Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Their current CEO is an outlier, openly embracing and extending foss and linux. After years of abuses from Gates and Ballmer, many people in the linux community won’t be so quick to trust them.
You must be in the B group or something, do you use a Microsoft account to login with or a local user?
I see the same behavior, both as a local user and as a user connected to a cloud account.
Some with and some without Microsoft account
I fought with Broadcom’s shitty website for hours, but finally have Workstation Pro, in which I will test my workflows in Linux.
Games and Lightroom will be a challenge, but I’m going to avoid Win11 at all costs.
So much of this shit apparently going on 11 but I’ve never seen any of these changes on mine.
Is this only for US or?
I’m in the US and I’ve not seen any of it either.
Windows 11 kinda sucks, I don’t know why it’s so hard for them to design a consistent UI, but I’ve not seen this ad nonsense.
I am using adguard DNS across my network, so maybe that’s why?
Lol
Microsoft needs to be broken up.
Any company that can be so blatantly anti consumer and still makes boatloads of money is obviously abusing its dominant position on the market.
Didn’t happen with Apple, or IBM, or Google, or Facebook, or…
Not yet…
Wasn’t IBM broken up into different hardware and software companies? Or an I thinking of someone else
Not ibm. You might be thinking of Bell: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System
Nah that’s obvious. There was a major supercomputer company that split up their hardware and software soon after software wasn’t strictly for one machine anymore.
Which company?
Reclaim your PC. Make it yours once more. Join the penguins.
I dualboot to accommodate a handful of apps. Linux loads up fast and awaits my command once logged in. Meanwhile my pretty much fresh windows build sets my cooling fans on full before I’ve even touch the mouse.
I admit it was a bit of a learning curve getting things set up as I like, but man Linux is such a better experience.
You might like a VM for Windows instead, so there’s no risk of a windows update taking a hammer to your bootloader
This is one of the reasons I like Qubes a lot.
I hadn’t heard of this before, and the concept is really intriguing. Thanks for this. I’ll check it out.
I didn’t spend tons of time experimenting, but found the VM wasn’t performing as smoothly as a second install.
Should I be worried about the boot loader thing? My OS picking experience is pretty wack. I have to slam esc while booting then f9 then pick my Linux boot up. It defaults to windows which I kind of like because it puts my actual OS on stealth mode lol.
If you’re booting without GRUB then you don’t need to be concerned about your bootloader breaking. Windows just sometimes overwrites GRUB, which is a pain
There’s something refreshing and simple about the computer doing what you tell it to do and nothing extra.
When you don’t want or need your hand held, there is a simple beauty.
Do you have your fans controlled by the bios or a fan controller?
The bios.
Not op but i personally use a fan controler as on my laptop asus weird overboost system is not very well handled by bios.
I was thinking about desktops, where the fan would be physically plugged into a fan controller instead of into the motherboard. Not sure what that would look like with a laptop.
I was mainly asking because some of those fan controllers default to full on when the usb connection is absent, and Windows doesn’t enable all usb connections until after the user logs into the system.
Hmm since it’s linux you could have a service that handles that at boot i think. (I’m a noob take this with a grain of salt)
Or the pirates
Or stay on Windows 10, if the pattern holds true Windows 12 might be decent again.
Don’t hold your breath, 10 already broke the pattern IMO and all I hear about 12 is that they will cram “AI” into everything. Windows the operating system is dead, replaced by Windows the sales platform.
I finally did this last week, nuked out my Win 11 laptop install and switched to Ubuntu. I have yet to find anything I would need to go back to Windows for.
I was not so brave. I installed in dual boot, but I just never booted back into windows.
Windows, WHY???
Imagine you have a computer that’s been compromised by malware. What do you think the search engine will be set to? Not Google, not Bing, probably some third party one that has ads and malware. Changing that to Bing would technically qualify as a repair.
They could easily improve this by just adding a list of common reputable search engines, and adding those to an allow list.
What a fucking stupid argument.
Glad you had something useful and helpful to add to the discussion. Have you ever in your life heard of “playing devils advocate”? Read a book some time.
As a Linux aficionado, I appreciate you trying to bring an argument for Windows in good faith and a potential way for Microsoft to improve it. This is even if steering people to Bing is Microsoft’s intention with this move so they are unlikely to improve it in the way you suggested.
Since forever, Microsoft-affiliated products are often the only things that get the “trusted” label within the Microsoft ecosystem.
Yeah it’s not ideal. I just don’t see a world where Microsoft will set people’s search engine to DuckDuckGo
