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If both are in Portland maybe it wasn’t him but the cyber truck I see somewhat often is always waving out his window to people looking at his truck. I’ve followed this truck from Portland up to standish before and for him to say he doesn’t like attention is absolutely not true…
I can’t see anyone who truly dislikes attention buying such an outlandish, hideous parody of a truck.
The article is about Portland Maine jsyk
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Investing in a license plate from Maine that just says “Event” and driving around at low speeds while smoothly sliding on and taking off my sunglasses was also probably not helpful.
Actually no our polls indicate that helped your numbers
Oh, a liberal cannabis gentrifier doesn’t like that people don’t appreciate his marketing scam masquerading as personal transport?
Hold on while I dig out the world’s smallest violin for him…
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Dude I could have all the money in the world and I’d still buy a VW Golf.
Some people just don’t like these fugly trucks. Also, I would never give Elon Musk a penny even if it was my favourite car. He’s a POS.
You’d even be mad to buy a Tesla these days now that everybody else has caught up and have more experience and better quality control.
Let’s not simp for billionaires aye.
I so wish I could get my hands on an electric one to replace my 2006 TDI…
I don’t like all the touch sensitive buttons on the new ones.
I’ve got a 2014 2.0 TDI with a blown head gasket 😔
If you hate Musk or Tesla or whatever, that’s one thing, don’t take it out on your fellow man.
if someone’s willing to put everyone around them at risk by driving that thing around, they’re not my “fellow man”.
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No. I live near a lot of them. I hate you offline too. So do my friends and colleagues. Believe me.
There are more Musk fan douchebags IRL than Lemmy, yes. That doesn’t mean you’re not a fucking loser supporting a neo Nazi who scams the government for my tax payer dollars. You knowingly bought a truck designed to kill humans instead of crumpling. You’re trash big dog.
Have you considered people like me aren’t flipping you off as overtly as the loser fanboys approach you?
If I see you on the road, I 100% will cut you off, not let you in, skip ahead at stop signs, slow down so you get red light tickets.
Next time that happens, consider whether it’s bc what you’re driving, not the other person’s habits.
Never thought I’d root for big auto to take point on electric vehicles, but anything is better than supporting that dick bag.
Fuck you. Fuck Tesla.
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Kind of a self-selecting phenomenon, isn’t it? The haters won’t approach you IRL to berate it, and the admirers aren’t going to seek out an online forum to gush about it.
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Children taking photos with your car isn’t the flex you think it is.
Coincidentally, and also anecdotally, I saw someone pee on a cyber truck the other day.
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I pointed it out to someone in the car with me and my face probably had a smile, as I joked about how pictures don’t do it service how ugly/odd it looked in person. Then we switched back to whatever topic we were talking about.
Some people like odd shapes, some people make fun of it, some don’t care. There are plenty of things I’d never drive but might like to look at, some in appreciation, some in mockery.
My main issues with Teslas are company and owner issues. Issues with cutting corners, his involvement with manipulating governments for Lithium, and the wild way he hires and fires people due to ego (reportedly fired entire Supercharger group because lead wouldn’t do anymore layoffs, and is desperately trying to rehire talent).
I can discuss all that stuff with people without a scowl on my face, because I’m laughing at such dumb decisions. I don’t have any personal opinions about you really, other that you either don’t know that stuff or don’t care. I might make judgements if I confirmed you knew all that and still went for it, or if I knew you simped for him, but I couldn’t make that call just seeing one out on the street.
In person I can’t go anywhere without someone wanting to ask me about it and gushing about how cool it is.
That’s just confirmation bias my dude…
I have seen people out there with clothes, accessories, hairdo, make up that makes me want to vomit… but I am not an asshole and this is not my problem so I do nothing…
On the other hand, I have seen as many people with clothes, accessories, hairdo or make up that makes me want to say “wow, that is so cool”… being a positive thing, I do sometimes tell them “Bud, what an awesome shirt!”… “wow those glasses are super cool!”, etc
The point being, it takes different types of people/attitudes/effort to go out of your way to give a compliment vs an insult… insulting people is harder and riskier, therefore you will see much less of it (how many people go out of their way to warn you you have a bugger hanging out or lettuce on your teeth?)
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Which is why you shouldn’t go by any one source…
So long as you don’t get it wet and it doesn’t randomly brake on you and the side panels don’t rust and you’re ok with the PS1 yee yee ass looks, sure, it’s great.
Bruh
No way!
I mean is it really a truck?
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Like, if you can’t put a 2x4 in it, is it a truck? Is an el camino a truck?
IF a cybertruck is a truck, is a Pontiac Aztek a truck?
The El Camino is a mullet.
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Isn’t there already legal definitions such as gross vehicle weight? I know there have been some edge cases where people argue cars as trucks to get special truck access for commercial use. Chevy HHR comes to mind with some contractors.
USA Light Truck definition: Firstly, the vehicle must have a gross vehicle weight–that’s the curb weight plus payload–of no more than 8,500 lbs. Secondly, it has to be designed to transport persons, property, or be fitted with special features allowing its “off-street or off-highway operation and use”.
Hey a 1961 Ford rancho was my first vehicle. I did a lot of truck things with that. It was even one of one built of the crappy falcon body, which was one of Ford’s first unibodies. Boy did that thing flex.
I even parked next to 2005ish Ford F150, with that dumb extra short bed. My 50 year old caruck has a bigger bed on it.
Honestly if the POS that Tesla sells here counts as a truck, my bicycle does…
If you can’t fit a sheet of plywood in the bed, I’d call it a waste of time.
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I heard the cyber truck called the “Incel Camino” and now I can’t think of it any other way.
I mean, the el Camino caught a lot of flak when I was young. I remember my “surfer/ stoner/ slacker/ loser” gen x cousin who was a pool guy used his as a work vehicle and I guarantee that guy was SMASHING with that ride. I’m not saying a cyber truck truck is on that level and but some things take time to catch on.
Per the legal US definition, almost every SUV is a “light truck”, including my 1999 Subaru Forester…
iirc, that is bc your Forester is an SUV that uses a truck chassis underneath, whereas the otherwise extremely similar Crosstrek uses the Impreza chassis so is more of a high “car”. But that could change over the years and I’m not really a car person so don’t quote me or anything!:-P
There are plenty of SUVs with unibodies. Hell every Jeep Cherokee from 1984 on is a unibody.
Yeah I was wrong about that. I mentioned this in another reply:
The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.
Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.
From this article.
And this is why it is a scam. All of these vehicles are all used as soccer mom mobiles.
Nuh uh! Only 90% are that way… the rest are men who buy into how “sporty” they are.:-)
I did love watching a video of a tiny Subaru Crosstrek able to do as well as a tow truck - it’s not just about power, but tire traction grip.
Also people who don’t buy into the whole “truck=manly” schtick.
But definitely 90% soccer moms too ofc.:-P
I drive a 91 Cherokee and I defend myself because I like Jeeps and cherokees are easy to work on. I would kill for an old 70s military Jeep truck though, hell id commit genocide for one of those old boxed Willy Jeeps they find in the gods forsaken deep storage of places like the Sierra Army Depot.
His Forrester is built on a Legacy chassis; it’s a four door sedan with a little lift and a bigger body shell on top.
Thanks for the correction. I see now, it’s a larger car chassis - so as @[email protected] said, that’s not a “truck”, light or otherwise, at all!?
I did a search and found this article suggesting that it is a historical (hehe, some might say… “legacy”, eh?:-P) naming scheme, based on fuel economy:
The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.
Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.
nope, not a truck in any sense of the word. granted I use it like one, lol, but it is very much a light passenger car chassis.
don’t quote me or anything!
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Uno Reverse!
That’s the one I should have gone with in the first place btw lol, much less unnecessarily harsh 😆
Fwiw, I did not downvote you, and enjoyed the trip down memory lane!:-P
The Forester up until 2008 was quite literally an Impreza/Legacy chassis that shares identical drivetrain components except for the body. It is unibody, Macpherson strut, symmetrical AWD and as far from a truck as you can get.
And the reason for this is that the “light truck” classification has weaker emissions standards, so they can cheap out on efficiency of the engine which means higher profit margins (and more harmful pollution for us to enjoy inhaling).
Scratching a stranger’s car is never okay.
It is if they blatantly block sidewalks like the entitled assholes that they are.
No! Bad DarkThoughts!
You call a tow truck and have the vehicle towed at the owner’s expense.
In what world is a tow truck going to tow a car for parking on the side walk? They’re gonna tell you to call the cops or parking enforcement and the cops don’t even show up for gun shots
Oh my sweet summer child. Sidewalk parking is more or less legal in Germany since cars are generally placed above people. It’s literally happening everywhere. My entire street is full of people being 1/3 on the sidewalk.
No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
Dude, literally every damn city residential area is like this. No one cares, especially not the Ordnungsamt who should be responsible for it, or politicians. Worst case, they just add some white paint and whoop it is legal, because fuck pedestrians. I don’t even know why you try to argue otherwise when it’s literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can’t even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls. But hey, here’s Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.
Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
I said it is “more or less legal”, meaning it is defacto legal because no one actually enforces it and rather makes it legal if they had to enforce it.
Carrie Underwood has an entire song about how you are wrong.
Yeah but it’s not a stranger in the song
You know, I agree. But also, you can’t imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that’s just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.
They probably just wanted to see if it’s really bulletproof…
On purpose yes, by accident, what can you do
True. I had intentional damage in mind.
Even then, in a “lorry problem” type of scenario, it could be OK. Like, you have a lever and there’s a fascist con-man polluting the world with bad ideas and products, and you could either do nothing or use the lever to go to town on one of those products to send a message to his supporters, I know what I would do
But what if it ain’t a car but a Cybertruck?
Scratching another unmet civilians vehicular mode of transport is never okay.
Purposely, yeah, but if I open my door into it, don’t park do fucking close to the line
But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.
Drive a normal sized car and that won’t happen. Or just you know walk a bit extra. Won’t kill you.
That’s just how the cookie crumbles. If you really can’t stomach any dings leave the car in the garage
Get fucked carfuckers
I am on your side about this. I can’t stand the people who need their car to be in perfect appearance and do asshole things to get it that way.
It’s a fucking machine that you use to move goods and people from a to b. Not a statement, not a status symbol, not a penis enhancement. Scratches are just battle scars. My civic looks like shit and I don’t care.
It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?
Maybe environmental movements don’t attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it’s not personal it’s impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it’s just a number game. Environmental groups just don’t have enough people to get them in the pool.
Not sure.
Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.
Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.
His name is Jason Alexander, he only played a character named George.
George Alexander would then form a band, drop two hits, then write for other artists away from the limelight.
Oh wait, that’s Gregg.
I thought he conquered the eastern Mediterranean, Egypt, the Middle East, and parts of Asia in a remarkably short period of time.
I thought no one was prosecuted in that case.
I think it says more about the personalities on each side. ICE loving climate deniers are aggressive by nature.
No, it’s more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.
People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.
I’ve seen ICE folks run cyclists off of roads. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EV or cyclist attack a shitwagon.
I dunno man, how ever you measure it I think the ice folks are more aggressive by nature, these are the same coal rolling fucks who like to pollute intentionally as a ‘fuck you’ to environmentalists.
Can’t say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.
For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
Are you 12?
Or do you just see every unfortunate occurrence as personal victimization?
But giving them the finger is
That doesn’t do expensive damage. I am pro-finger.
Edit: come on, “pro-finger”? Nobody’s gonna take that and run with it? I’m disappointed.
People being assholes over it is dumb, but I can’t say I would want one. I saw one recently at my local grocery store and I couldn’t stop thinking how poorly built it looked. It just seemed like the fit and finish of the body panels was kinda bad. I got an overall feeling like it was something put together by a couple of teenagers in metal shop.
One of my neighbors has one. When the ford flex next to it is the better truck in all respects…ya done fucked up
People can be shitty, but I still find it amusing that it’s so ugly and stupid it provokes people into a rage.
I find all these comically oversized pickups obnoxious.
The cybertruck is just the latest, most obnoxious model to date.
I think it’s because it costs an obscene amount while being something only a moron would buy. So when someone who is struggling to make ends meet sees that an absolute moron has so much cash that they can blow it on something this dumb, they get angry. It’s not fair that they work hard just to make ends meet while some failson has $100k to blow on a dumb car. At least a Maserati, Porsche, or Ferrari of similar price looks cool.
Or on the flipside… No one feel this way about hideous AMC cars that have been lovingly restored and maintained. I love those hideous monsters lol.
That’s different.
I don’t think it’s the car per se that angers people but the idiocy of lemmings who are destroying the world by supporting people like Trump and Musk and Nick Fuentes. And by buying a Tesla car, that’s what you do, you enable Elon Musk to keep on destroying the world.
The exact definition of a ”hateful car”.
Isn’t that the goal of owning a machine like that? You are trying to provoke a reaction. The car I own was the single most commonly sold sedan the year it was made. I don’t want people reacting to me, noticing me, etc. I want to be another person in the crowd.
If you take a shit in front of a camera you can’t really be upset that people are commenting on it.
There’s one down the street from me. It’s a damn eyesore.
Complain to the HOA… no junkers on the property or street
Lol we don’t have an HOA around here thankfully, otherwise my 50yo camper would have to find a new home
Have you tried quitting to the menu and turning up texture detail? Looks like it might be something to do with anti-aliasing. Hopefully will be patched in the next update.
Yeah but then all the NPCs outside wouldnt have lara croft triangle titties
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Is there any vehicle in the world that screams rich asshole more than the cyber truck? There are more expensive vehicles for sure, but my first thought if I saw a Pagani wouldn’t be to flip it off.
There are more expensive vehicles for sure
I can understand hitting the lottery and spending six figures on a luxury sports car. I cannot image why anyone would have voluntarily submitted themselves to this vehicle. Its the automotive equivalent of lighting six figures on fire.
I thought it was the automotive equivalent to letting six figures get rained on till it is ruined
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At least with other expensive cars you can admire the craftsmanship, elegant appearance, and significant history behind the brand or specific model of car. For the money, you get none of those things with a cyber truck.
People who care about such things aren’t Tesla customers. You need to have ultimate shallowness to spend money on Elon’s shitty products.
I guess any vehicle you can’t afford can scream rich asshole if you’re bitter enough
any vehicle you can’t afford
Definitely a difference between living beyond your means and simply pissing the money away.
Admittedly, this vehicle was made by a guy who wrecked his McLauren inside a year. When you’re a billionaire, I guess you just see everything as disposable.
Shit boomer take
I may be a boomer but at least I don’t spend my days hating shit.
It depends on the car. If I see a nice looking expensive car I don’t think they’re an asshole. Seeing something amazing is a treat for a gearhead like me, no matter how bitter I am.
The Cybertruck, however, is ugly as fuck. Unless your aesthetic is 80s low-poly video games it is even uglier in person than pictures. The fact that something that ugly costs that much is almost insulting.
Apparently not everyone thinks it’s ugly.
Yeah it sucks to be hated, especially for reasons as stupid as which electric truck you bought. It’s just sad how much hate there is these days.
He bought a car that is so dangerous to other people that it probably wouldn’t be allowed in the EU. I think that’s a pretty valid reason.
Also the fact that its a waste of resources, the ones here in California are already rusting up worse than some cars that have been sitting since the mid 90s. Seriously I see one over by Joshua tree (technically morango valley) sometimes and over the last month the rust has been creeping up its side. I suspect ones in places like Maine will be rust stains sooner rather than later.
I’d argue owning that car is a hate symbol in itself. You gave a fascist money who’s hard at work helping to end the world
I saw one in person finally a few weeks ago and just started laughing; it’s even uglier in person! But I wouldn’t intentionally try to damage someone else’s vehicle; that’s even more ridiculous.
I had the same reaction, I immediately started laughing at how ridiculous it looked.
My boss just got this truck. Aside from it being severely over priced it’s actually very well built and super practical and usable for light and medium light duty. Even some short distance towing.
Although for most people that can afford this thing I doubt there will be any kind of duty being performed by this truck at all.
If you think that’s very well built, you must not know a lot about cars and probably need stronger contacts
I suppose you’re an automotive engineer then?
How did you know?
What?
Yeah, “super practical” seems like very curious way to describe a Cybertruck but glad you and your boss like it I guess.
The “very well built” comment also is a peculiar statement.
There’s only 3800 of these delivered so far and there’s literally hundreds of posts, pictures and videos of these abominations online showing the shoddy assembly and a flurry of technical issues.
Lol. That’s literally every single car ever made.
I once saw a video of a guy crucifying a Toyota Camry. Conversely Ford has the most number of recalls for 2023.
German luxury cars blow out their turbos at 40k miles and are so over engineered that most mechanics don’t even want to work on them.
And Chrysler products are pure shit.
I’m pretty sure at this point people just like trashing Tesla just because it’s popular.
It’s a decent truck… If you just want to hate it because you feel superior juxtaposed to your inability to afford one then I suggest finding a job that will allow you to purchase extravagant things.
It’s very practical. It has quite a bit of function built into it. You just don’t like it because you want to hate Tesla while it’s still popular.
You are hilariously wrong on both counts, but do go on about this ludicrous, overpriced, poorly designed piece of shit being practical.
Tesla did show a lot of promise at first, but Musk has been running it into the ground trying to chase short term profits - it’s objectively harmful to the company and their employees.
I think you’re just defending it blindly because you’re another ridiculous Musk fanboy, it is an objectively shitty truck. You can disagree and argue all you want, but that doesn’t change anything - the truck is still an overpriced piece of shit.
I like your use of the word objective.
I have sat in driven and looked at the Cyber truck. I actually have real world objective observation of this car and I can tell you from first-hand experience that it is practical, well made and well designed.
What you are experiencing is subjective emotional responses probably tainted by whatever media you lurk around in.
I’m not arguing with you. I’m not disagreeing with you. I am telling you my experience and interpretation of the car, you are disagreeing with those statements and that is perfectly fine. It’s your right not to like it even if you are dead wrong.
I also really like your ad hominem attack on me for being a Musk Fanboy (which I am not). Really sets you apart from the bandwagon.
But do go on blindly pointlessly hating something you know nothing about.
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Excellent. Thank you for your capitulation. I’m happy that you agree with my assessment.
Yeah it’s funny the hate they get on here, every single person I know that’s been in a tesla on FSD has said it’d brilliant, there are endless videos of people in love with their cybertrucks that show in detail why they like it. But no, ‘i saw one go past and could just tell it was low quality’
Personally it’s not for me, it’s too big and intense even if I could afford it, it’s not a disaster though and if people like it then it’s good because they’re the people that’d probably have a massive ICE truck instead. I honestly think the people hating on it are reaching into cope territory, scratching them because they’re desperate to make them fail like they predicted.
It’s just another product on the market, people should hype up good alternatives and help them grow if they want to ‘fight elon’
great use of your surplus labor value
If you drive a douchemobil, you shouldn’t be surprised when people think you’re a douche.
Thinking someone is a douche and actively damaging their car are two completely different things. Not cool to damage property like that, just point and laugh or loudly exclaim how that is the ugliest looking car you’ve ever seen and you pity whoever thought it was a good idea to buy one.
Carter tells the paper he has never been a fan of the limelight, somehow forgetting what sort of attention a massive, angular truck would garner him.
Lmao dude bought the fugliest car ever made and didn’t think twice about that decision
I think it is more “carter lies in the paper’s face that he has never been a fan of the limelight”
You literally don’t buy a cyberrustbucket unless you are dying for attention.
and later,
He knew the truck would be an eye-catcher in Maine. But he wanted it for its uniqueness.
“It’s so ugly it’s cute. It’s like a French bulldog,” he said. “I don’t think it’s the most attractive car in the world, but it’s different. And I like to be different.”
