If you don’t use Bing with Edge, Microsoft will tell you your computer needs repairing.
They are not wrong.
To mend your machine:
- Ditch Windows
- Install Plasma
- Your computer is ready.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I am already running KDE on my desktop and GNOME on my laptop with Fedora. Maybe when I will have time, I will package KDE for #MatuushOS.
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3. Install msedge for linux and open BingUsing Edge on Linux is like cooking up a banger vegan meal and then drenching it in bacon grease.
The next step will be for Windows to tell you that you are broken if you chose another browser.
@[email protected] on my latest laptop I didn’t even activate Windows. I just plugged in a USB stick with a KDE distro.
Who needs Windows?@[email protected] @[email protected] Guess what, Firefox does the same thing (a refresh will reset your privacy settings and your default browser, all of which affect Mozilla’s revenue streams) but they’re a tad sneakier/cleverer(?) about it.
(Firefox is not private by default so getting you to reset your settings is how they try to influence you to return to their preferred configuration.)
@aral @[email protected] @[email protected] Wait, but isn’t the whole point of a refresh to reset everything?
I agree though, out of the box Firefox has become pretty bloated.
@Aaron @[email protected] @[email protected] Yes, to non-private defaults. Let’s put it this way: if Firefox’s defaults respected your privacy, Mozilla would go bankrupt tomorrow.
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Here, you dropped this…
Because, guess what? Plasma does not force you to use Firefox either.
@Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] Which would make perfect sense if I had said “Plasma forces you to use Firefox.” Would you like any other straw men to rile against?
@aral @[email protected] @[email protected] I wouldn’t call that one deceptive design tbh, it says what it is doing on the box, resetting the browser to its default state. That includes search engines and privacy settings. Resetting settings to defaults is a completely normal feature that many apps have, and can be useful for fixing issues.
@dajix @[email protected] @[email protected] It’s deceptive. They know exactly what they’re doing. That’s why they also ask if you haven’t used your browser for a while.
@aral @[email protected] @[email protected] I still dont consider this deceptive design. A prompt to reset is perfectly normal in programming, and it would be weird if they did not reset privacy settings with that. Resetting settings is resetting ALL settings. In fact, since resetting is often used for fixing issues you are having in your browser, resetting security settings is a good thing, since some of them can break sites.
Shh! You’re messing up their bizarre soapbox interjection! They want everyone to switch back to chrome because they’d rather Google have access to your data instead
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I love KDE so much. If I didn’t rely on certain creative software for work, I’d ditch macOS in an instant.
And I think that’s one of the reasons people just aren’t able to switch over from Windows.But hey, every other computer in the house that isn’t a Mac runs Fedora KDE. 😃
I feel the same about KDE and Windows. I only keep Windows for some music production stuff and legacy .NET application maintenance. The rest of the time I avoid it and use Linux and KDE, a far more pleasant experience.
Apple had to learn the hard way: Under the DMA (thanks @EUCommission !) they were forced to give users a choice regarding the default search engine and browser on their systems.
What are we going to do about Microsoft misleading users?
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_1689
Is the browser selection on Windows no longer required in EU?
It is still required, as Google had to do the same with Android, offering multiple search engines and presenting them to the user (at least that happened to me with my phone), but after doing it in Windows 8.1, Microsoft probably thought that it was enough compliance to keep “those nagging EU politicians” away.
I just found out that the agreement between Microsoft and the EU commission was only valid between 2009 and 2014. So MS is no longer obliged to make the change of the default browser easy.
What a shame, as now it would be more needed than ever :c
But thank you for correcting me.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Well, I ditched Windows many, many, many years ago, but Plasma still doesn’t make any sense to me, so I use XFCE. But thank you for Plasma!
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I remember decades ago when a US court convicted Microsoft to seperate their browser from windows. The court wrote the verdict that Microsoft ilegally tried to prevent competion . Since Microsoft lost it shouldn’t be difficult to file the next suit .
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During the Clinton era Microsoft was a hair’s breadth away from being broken apart for all its anti-competitive monopolistic shenanigans – including the browser war thing that you mention.
But then Bush Junior got into power (I resist using the words “was elected”) and he swept all that away.
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As I recall:
Microsoft Windows used to have good online help, circa 1991-1994 (Windows 3.1).
It was based on the Rich Text Format (RTF).
Then Microsoft added a web browser, and called it Internet Explorer.
Internet Explorer really wasn’t very good for exploring the internet, apparently because its development had been rushed and it didn’t display some things like other browsers would.
Then Microsoft argued in court that its web browser was an integral part of Windows, which Windows could not work without.
Then the judge removed the web browser from his own Windows-based computer and experienced no problems.
Then Microsoft changed its online help to HTML and made us use its web browser to access it.deleted by creator
- Ditch Windows
- Install Plasma
- Your computer is ready.
Oh, hey, I already did that! I’ll have you know that once I did, my computer was no longer broken and my life changed— Colors became more vivid. Birdsong sounds sweeter. Food tastes better. My wife got even hotter. And I even discovered the secret to nuclear fusion!
Joking aside, ever since switching to Linux, my machine had never run better.
I have rescued several laptops that were struggling with Windows by installing Linux, and KDE Plasma is excellent these days. My 7 year old Dell XPS, which had become unusably slow and hot under Windows 11 despite repastes and cleaning, runs OpenSUSE Tumbleweed like it’s a new machine.
Jokes on them, I’m not using bing in the first place
It doesn’t say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.
All it says is that the default settings are changed, and they recommend resetting to their service. Because of course a company is going to recommend their own services. Would be a bad company if they didn’t.
This is the actual picture they used in the article:
If you look at the screenshot, you can see this is the “Repair tips” tab/button. I don’t know what it looks like, but it does say something about repairing.
It doesn’t say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.
It is literally under the “Repair tips” tab.
A repair tip
A tip for if things went wrong, like if some virus installed a weird browser and set it default, and you want a quick fix.
It isn’t saying that if you installed any other browser the system is broken and it should be repaired to Edge. That is just ridiculous and why I call this clickbait.
It is aimed at people who don’t even know what a default browser is. You know, the average user.
Hey come on. You sound far too reasonable.
Don’t you know this is the KDE community where we
discuss topics about KDEhate on Windows.You are working with hypotheticals. We cannot judge what the reasoning is. We can only judge what it is. It may have been done with good intentions as you say. Given MS’s track record, highly unlikely, but either way the fact is MS is telling its Windows users that anything that is not Edge and Bing is damaged or malicious. That is anticompetitive bullshit (intentional or not) and FUD.
Useful red circle
I can see windows internet related services being tested with edge.
They should add a red badge with ( 1 )
@[email protected] @[email protected] I’d like to use Plasma, but the last time I tried it, it didn’t run very well on my PC.
Compared to Windows? Because then it’s probably not plasma but the underlying distribution.
@qaz No. I use XFCE. I tried Plasma not even a year ago. Moving windows around made the low frame rate obvious.
@qaz @shanesemler I can vouch this. The way Garuda used Plasma for a while lagged the heck out of my desktop. They switched it up a few versions ago and runs like butter now.
You also could try Linux Mint cinnamon
Damn, if anyone ever uses Edge, this might be an issue.
Gotta love it when edge users try to tell me “It’s not that bad” and “It’s based on chrome now”.
Those aren’t exactly selling points…
@[email protected] @[email protected] Do not fear the learning curve, for it is shallower now than a year ago.
