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Yes, this is a 4 hour long review of a hotel that’s already closed.
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So worth the time. She had an aweful 2-days 2-nights for thousands of dollars, and did it so you and I didn’t have to lose that money to learn the hard way.
I love that she contextualizes all of this against the backdrop of Disney corporate cowardice and shortsightedness. Also, bless the friggin cast members!
Well, we are in no danger of losing money anymore, the thing went bankrupt.
this whole thing reads like Disney was planning it as a tax writeoff from the very beginning …
No they fully thought they could get rich nerds to overspend on a cheap hotel because the CEO who was seeing the project was absolutely about maxing profits from the top percentage of park goers.
That’s not how tax works
Glad to see jenny back on YouTube =) thought shed stay in nebula/patreon forever after the hate she was getting
I don’t think Jenny is on Nebula. She’s got a patreon where she releases smaller videos every month, but to my knowledge she’s never “left” YouTube - she just takes a long time to create and edit these videos so she can only release them pretty infrequently. She’s got a comment pinned on this video saying about as much.
Are you thinking of Lindsay Ellis? She’s still Nebula (and maybe patreon) exclusive.
Oh yeah maybe I got a bit mixed up there, thanks!
What’s up with this video? I’m not interested in watching it, but YouTube keeps recommending it to me, and every time I see it the views on it keeps exponentially growing.
Jenny Nicholson is a really popular video essayist. She only releases like one of these essay videos a year because she spends so long working on them. (She’s got a patreon where she releases a smaller, lower effort video every month.)
The big videos routinely pull in millions of views, so I’m not surprised the algorithm spams it in people’s feeds. She’s got a lot of followers that watch it right away because they’ve been waiting for a year to see it, so it shoots to the top of the recommendations for other people in that niche. Then there’s a snowball effect where YouTube starts recommending it, more people watch it, so it gets recommended more, etc. You see the same thing on Hbomberguy’s yearly video.
As one of her subscribers, I can tell you that this video has been in the works for years, so we’ve been hearing about it for a long time and were hyped. I just finished it today - broke it up into three different viewings. She breaks all her essays down into chapters so it’s easy to watch just a portion of it at a time.
I had never heard of her. I do not watch influencer videos. I do not like influencer videos and suspect I would not like them personally. The 4 hour long runtime clearly indicated I would not be watching it.
I am now a subscriber and big fan of her work!
The cascade of bad decisions by Disney was so enjoyable to hear about and her experience with ‘Disney magic’ was so very relateble. I too have been placed behind inexplicably large columns, felt the arbitrariness of the ‘experiencing the magic’, and spent far too much money for the privilege of standing in sweaty lines in the Florida heat.
I feel bad for the people involved that really wanted to make something great but were crushed under the weight of corporate ineptitude. I personally knew someone who went, refused to say how much they paid, and refused to talk about their experience. Now I know why. Excellent video. She’s like the NeverKnowsBest of theme parks.
I’m curious and confused on the “influencer” part. My understanding was influencers are just people with “popularity” (manufactured users usually) pushing products in a “native ad” sort of way, never attributed it to general youtubers unless there’s something about the creator I’m unaware of.
I used the term loosely to include the average “YouTuber”, a term I hadn’t thought of. I tend not to watch any of them.
To be fair she does actually lightly use the word in this video to describe herself, but only in order to describe how Disney as a company might view her.
Dismissing youtubers for being youtubers reminds me of people who dismiss all animation because “cartoons are for kids” or whatever. When I think of “influencer” I think of an instagram model who pushes products on their followers. “Youtuber” includes many content creators who devote hours into researching, writing, filming, and editing high quality, entertaining, and educational content.
Jenny is on the low end of the spectrum in terms of basically all of those categories (I love her though), but channels like CaptainD, Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube and Folding Ideas create extremely high quality content that (in my opinion) surpasses educational content coming out of any studio.
tl;dr: Dismissing youtube channels as “influencers” is narrow minded and may prevent you from enjoying content you would otherwise find to be of extremely high quality.
Fair point
I keep thinking “surely I won’t watch the entirety of this Vampire Diaries video yet again.” 5 hours later…
Go watch her breakdown of The Church Play Cinematic Universe and you will understand.
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Jenny is very popular but hasn’t uploaded to Youtube in a year, so this a big comeback.
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Star Wars is a popular franchise but has had mixed success recently, and Disney’s perceived mismanagement of it is a popular topic.
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It’s organized as an Internet-friendly numbered list!
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I, and apparently a lot of other people, could listen to Jenny talk about theme parks all day.
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I haven’t taken the time to sit down and watch this video yet, 4 hours! But I love Jenny’s content and am excited to see it.
Still hoping she will cover the official closing of Evermore
She’s just mad about the lack of Reylo content.
Jenny’s videos are awesome. This has been in my Watch Later since she released it… I need to get around to watching it.
Might be easier to start it if you commit to only watching a few chapters at a time. I just finished it after breaking it up into three different viewings and I had a great time.
It’s a crazy experience of her telling this story. I’ve watched 3 of the 4 hours so far and might do the rest today. You can tell the desperation in her voice on day one, when you can see the boring games and faction quests didn’t work, or her role playing was simply ignored, but some things are even worse, like the used emergency measures in place, in case of fire or the really bad app or extra paying for drinks on a $6000 trip. Nightmarish.
She points out that paying for drinks is the norm for all Disney cruises. The food is free and infinite though.
(not even complimentary Disney+ on the in-room TV)
Okay that is actually crazy
I watched the first few minutes just to see what it was about, and then 4 hours had passed.
lol I had never even heard of her before yesterday, clicked on that video because I’m a sucker for deep dive video essays that are probably unnecessary about weird topics. I didn’t see it was a 4hr video until I was like 20 min in and now I haven’t stopped watching her stuff. Love finding a new YouTuber to watch endless hours of their back catalogues.
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I’ve watched a 20 hour 2-part video about Skyrim. Your fear of a 4 hour video is pathetic. I am operating on a completely different level than you. You can try, but I doubt your feeble mind would be able to keep up. All this to say, long form content rules.
Your reply is almost good enough for short form copy pasta. 👍
I personally like MauLer’s multiple hour and multiple video breakdowns of why the latest Star Wars movies are bad and how they could have been fixed: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBBJXQJJavX2VueOEqGSaBNsGaHZREWEr
calling everyone who defends a video they enjoyed a simp because said video was written by a woman
Found the sexist
There’s absolutely no reason this video should be 4 hours long.
Jenny had 4 hours of stuff she wanted to say and her fans want to listen to it because they find it entertaining. Get a life nerd.
You listened to 4 hours of talking about a Star Wars attraction for children. The irony.
Right, it should have been about 3hr45min. She had a few minutes of slip around the 3hr mark, approx. Complained a bit about a couple NBD things.
Some of the content, you could just read if it were released in text format. The videos she took and those she included from others, and the Disney marketing videos, were impactful and enlightening - crucial to fully telling the story and allowing vicarious understanding. Would still need at least 1-2 or 3hr even if she released her commentary in text form.
Absolutely phenomenal and engaging presentation.
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I guess my sensitive side is on today, seeing as I took the comment pretty personally, in fact being shocked reading the rudest personal attack directed at me in a year on this site.
I’m sure you didn’t mean it like that!
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These may well all be irrelevant but I’m curious now beyond this conversation, anything here resonate with you?
- Insecurity/Low Self-Esteem
- Lack of Empathy
- Learned Behavior
- Sadism
- Boredom/Thrill-Seeking
- Resentment/Anger
- Moral Disengagement
It’s more like a multipart documentary. Except all the episodes are condensed into a single video. It’s really well written and narrated.
And yet I watched pretty much all off it
I watched it and enjoyed it all (at 2x speed though), so there absolutely is a reason for it to be 4 hours. I don’t feel like it dragged or was extended for arbitrary reasons. Honestly, it feels like it could be longer reasonably. There’s a lot to cover.
Is there? It’s a star wars hotel. I’ve read comprehensive scientific papers about years if proving hypothesis that could be finished in an hour. Why would a video about a bing boing Star Wars hotel need 4 times that lmao.
Ok now please comment on how every single movie made in the last 100 years is longer than your papers
This isn’t a movie you fucking idiot.
Wow, eat a dick
Oh, that’s great! Some amazing papers can be finished in even shorter times, so nothing should be longer than those either! Wow, that’s so enlightening. I’m glad the only reason something can be lengthy is because it’s a research paper. That’ll save so much time. No more long movies or TV series for me!
This video is literally an essay, your comparisons are nonsense. She reiterates the same points over and over again. There’s no reason this needs to be 4 hours. You and your strawmen can fuck off. Sarcastic little simp.
You’re the one who brought up research papers. I just made sarcastic fun about how stupid the comparison is. It’s your own strawman you have issue with.
Both are essays. The comparison is valid. Stop simping because a 4 hour video about a star wars hotel could be shorter. You’re so mad it’s quite embarrassing.
Lol. Dude, I just said I enjoyed the video and I’m fine with the length. You came here to say it’s bad and wrong. Go do something else. I’m not mad about anything, but you seem to be for some reason.
Anyway, I’m done here. This isn’t going anywhere and you just keep telling me I’m wrong for enjoying something I enjoyed. Bye.
I’ve read comprehensive scientific papers about years if proving hypothesis that could be finished in an hour
bahahahhaha
HEY EVERYONE, CHECK OUT HOW SMART THIS PERSON IS!!!
Simp
lol
I’m not a huge Star Wars, Disney, Hotel, Vacation, or fan of this person, and I still watched all 4 hours of this. Really good break down. She’s also very quirky and charismatic.
Her doing an entire section with the porg mask and not mentioning it once is top tier content.
I don’t get how her mic quality was still so clear with that big ole helmet on
Lav* mic in the helmet? I haven’t got to that part yet and don’t know what the mask looks like, but that’s how furries do it!
Jenny is one of the best YouTubers around, love everything she makes. Highly recommend, if this is your first time watching her videos, to go back and watch the rest. She makes longform content on a huge variety of stuff and she’s very thorough with her videos.
Jenny’s a national treasure
Can I get the 4 min tl;dr:?
No
Disney opened an incredibly expensive Star Wars “hotel experience”, charging $5k plus for two nights. Jenny Nicholson visited (paying full price) and documented the experience, plus background on how and why the hotel was made, some research into what was going on behind-the-scenes, and the spectrum of fan reactions to the experience. The hotel closed down permanently while she was editing the video, and she also goes into why that happened and some larger trends at Disney surrounding the closure.
Thank you for posting I am definitely going to spend 4 hours on this. ☺
If this is your cup of tea as well you might enjoy her 4 hour review of a theme park that didn’t make it either.
She has a great followup to the evermore video on her Pateron that I highly recommend just getting a month for.
Evermore makes me so sad. All that potential and a dream that just wasn’t. It’s planned theming was much more my speed too.
Can anyone tell me who she reminds them of? There is something about her face and the way she talks/moves her mouth that really reminds me of someone.
emily blunt?
No I don’t see that. My initial thought was Esther Povitsky—and I definitely see that. But even after that revelation, the more I watch the more I’m still feeling like that answer is incomplete.
