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I agree it’s over, I moved here and don’t care about Reddit anymore. :)
I won’t really call that a win,
Reddit lost the trust of many users, a non insignificant part of contributors and moderators left, the enshittification of the platform is not going to stop but they lost a big part of what made Reddit great. They damaged their image and popularity.
It’s like saying Elon won by trashing Twitter. Sure he does what he wants with it but making your platform less desirable sure isn’t a win for the platform.
I’m happy as a pig in shit now that Sync for Lemmy is out! Already paid the $20 to remove ads, love it!!!
Well it cured me from checking reddit all the time, so I count that as a win.
Yeah but now I’m here…
Me too but now I check Kbin all the time.
Ah! A fellow kbinite!
There are dozens of us.
Kbinites UNITE
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… there are different kbin instances?
Lemmy.world for me, but it’s honestly no where the mount of time spent.
I’ve moved to using my time to watch more movies. I plan on reading but it’s a process to get me away from a screen at the moment. I check kbin maybe two or three times a day for about 30min increments. I used to spend hours and hours on reddit, but I like not having to constantly check it. I’m not really active on any other social media site, and reddit was basically my one and only. Now I just pop on kbin from time to time.
Yeahhh. Even if they reverted everything, brought back the apps, and released a scheduled weekly video of Spez crying as different mods whip him with a belt, I am not interested.
Reddit can do whatever. I found an adequate replacement due to the protests, and I took it in direct response to Spez’s clockwork PR disasters, so the protests did not fail for me.
Interesting read that should have gone without saying to anyone trying to manage a company, what trust thermoclines are and how to avoid them.
Judging the worth of the protests depends on what your individual goal was. If it was convincing reddit admins not to cut and run with a giant pile of free money, now you know better. Nothing in the company’s history made me think they were the type, which is itself a warning sign.
If it was reddit going down in flames, that’s always a slow burn and seems nigh unavoidable for any company as the years stretch on and management grows complacent, but they visibly did damage themselves because you’re reading this.
And it was enough damage that several hundreds of thousands don’t really mind making their home at a competitor instead. It’s only going to get worse, not because they don’t already have millions of users who didn’t leave, but because they have a solid reputation for never listening to those millions.
The protest was a death sentence because their proven problem solving method is to ignore the problems as they mount.
I’d tune in once a week to watch that, but only through a web-scrapper
because they have a solid reputation for never listening to those millions.
Specifically, if you volunteer to moderate, create content, or build community on Reddit, you will be insulted and dismissed by people who are only in it for the money.
I’ve been pretty happy with the shift. I went to reddit all the time habitually but was very ready for something a little different.
I won, because I found lemmy.
Exactly how I feel! I don’t care at all what happens on the other site. This whole thing opened my eyes to what it has become, and it’s not just the API, that place has become toxic af.
Good for them, but the damage is already done. They seeded this place with a lot of users. Will it be enough? Who knows. But Lemmy is probably a looooot further along than if they didn’t shoot themselves in the foot.
This place obviously needs to continue with good content and active communities, but at moment I don’t really have the urge to open Reddit they way things are.
Lemmy is so much more fun than Reddit. It feels like the old school internet before corporations took over.
True.
Also, not only are people nicer on Lemmy, I find that I’m nicer on Lemmy.
I’m nicer and more importantly, it doesn’t make me rage on a regular basis like I used to.
I went to reddit every day for over a decade, and now, I don’t. Zero desire to and in fact desire not to, same as Tweeter.
I’m glad to have moved to lemmy. It feels raw and real, vs reddits polished curated feel. As if I’m actually reading posts by people. And I like that is doesn’t get me scrolling too much.
It feels raw and real, vs reddits polished curated feel. As if I’m actually reading posts by people.
Because on reddit we were reading posts by bots.
Absolutely. I had never even heard of Lemmy or anything Fediverse prior to all the 3rd party API shutdown. Once Apollo died, I stopped using Reddit.
The host of a tech podcast I listen to has had a Mastodon instance for years. I knew of the Fediverse because of that, but I always thought of it as decentralized Twitter and not necessarily a way to decentralize all types of social media platforms.
That, and Reddit was getting pretty fucking annoying. The little annoyances had really begun to pile up for me personally and I know I’m not alone.
Same here. So far I’m rather enjoying Lemmy.
I had heard of it, but was like “that’s dumb, just use Reddit, there’s no reason not to”
They gave me and many others that reason to reconsider
Yep. I also didn’t think this would work as well as it does. Remarkably good platform so far.
Thee developers really crunched over July. It went from a niche beta platform to fully featured third-party apps and a ton of platform optimizations in a month, which is really impressive.
I’d heard of the fediverse too, and I liked the idea of decentralised social media.
But it was way down on my list of “things I guess I should learn about but don’t have time for.”
Reddit blackout gave me both motive and opportunity to learn, and I’ve never looked back.
That’s exactly what happened to me too. It was in the background until something disrupted my status quo and then there was no looking back.
Yup, I saw the paltry userbase and didn’t bother. Other alternatives like lobste.rs and Tildes were a bit too closed, so I just stuck with Reddit. When Reddit decided to be stupid, I tried out lemmy and haven’t looked back.
When RiF died I deleted my accounts and found my way here. I still open a couple of niche subreddits from time to time just to check on updates but otherwise my time on Reddit is done. 2010-2023 (damn I hate to admit that).
Never would have heard of Kbin and now it’s all I use.
Me too. Can’t even remember who mentioned Kbin but it’s perfect for me.
Yeah, even when I’ve had the urge to check Reddit for something I’m trying to figure out, I will do everything I can to avoid it. And if I can’t, I try to determine how much I care about what I’m searching before I even give them a single click. It’s a small, insignificant protest, but it’s a forever protest, for me. I’m happy on lemmy, I don’t browse as much, I interqct with more of the community and want to help build it. On Reddit, I felt dirty because of everything they’ve been doing the last 5 or so years. Tencent, killing third party apps slowly and then in one fell swoop, etc. fuck ‘em
I’ve had to visit Reddit twice since the protests started, to get information from a specific user. Both times, I used Brave browser in Private mode. They didn’t get to count me as a login, they couldn’t serve me ads, and their trackers were blocked.
I don’t anticipate needing to go back to Reddit ever again, but for anyone who can’t avoid it, I recommend that method.
I lurked on reddit for years. I was lurking here for a couple weeks now but thought I should make an account to contribute. Reddit has gone down hill and I’ll never go back.
I’d say that’s good news, everyone!
Lemmy, Kbin, Raddle, Tildes, etc. - there are definitely more alternatives that are becoming increasingly popular.
They didn’t win shit. What they did broke the site for everyone. It doesn’t stop being broken because they seized control over the subs, something they could have done at any moment.
Reddit has detonated all its credibility, leaving a hole in the side just big enough for most of the site’s users to escape as they decide reddit isn’t worth it, or find good-enough alternatives. It won’t happen all at once, but it’ll happen.
I’m sure reddit will limp along, Tumblr did, myspace is still technically running although I don’t know anyone that would use it.
Maybe a younger crowd will get attracted to the site, maybe it will live again on fresh blood but I’m just not going to be a part of it. I’m not going to endorse their actions with my presence.
There’s a trend of using old point and shoot camera instead of the mobile phone or a mirrorless cams. The older the camera the more prestige you get.
Maybe they’ll use MySpace to post those photos. Haha.
Let’s see. Retro websites being used by gen z to try and see what it felt like during the times of their elders. To get a feel of the nostalgia posts they keep seeing in social media.
Yeah and they broke bots which actually were core to certain subs. The quality of say Buildapcsales isn’t what it was.
What did Gizmodo think might happen instead? That everyone, including those that were never impacted by 3rd party app changes, would just abandon the site, leaving it without users? “Peak journalism”.
We’re in such a shitty timeline right now where these CEO’s realize that they have so many mainstream users who just don’t actually care about the platform and just want the content, that even with significant controversy if they just ignore it, they can almost certainly weather the storm. Sure, their platform will be worse off, they’ll lose users to other platforms, but it’s a far cry from the Digg v3 -> Reddit situation when there was a much smaller user base who was more passionate about the site and community and they abandoned the old site as a result of those shitty decisions.
Big platforms like Facebook, Digg, Twitter and Reddit don’t fail in a day. Their decline is rather gradual. If you noticed any decline on Reddit’s quality after the API lockdown, then that’s the beginning of a gradual slide. Just wait for a while before judging the results.
Digg, … don’t fail in a day
It depends on precisely what you mean by “fail” and how strictly you take “day”, but Digg did lose 50% of its traffic within 30 days (and it never recovered).
My wife didn’t really pay attention to the reddit controversy and frankly didn’t really care. She is about as casual ad you can get and even She has noticed a very steep decline in the quality of content shared on reddit. She barely uses it anymore. Now this is a person who doesn’t notice when her adblocker is on or not. If she noticed this, i can guarantee she is not alone.
Huuumm, I don’t know. This whole thing gave birth to that garfield picture. Personally, I’d call that a win.
That garfield picture?
I hadn’t heard of this, but I feel like this is the case with most big social media companies atm.
Yeah the article ends up pretty much making this point too:
We’re at the dawn of a platform shift. As Google tunes its algorithms and incorporates more AI content into its search results, the business model of the entire internet is undergoing an unpredictable change. Over the long term, Reddit’s scrambling efforts at financial security may prove just as futile as the moderators’ attempts to fight back.
I’m really glad to be out from under all that corporate social media bs.
I guess you never played Total War games?
Absolutely this.
They didn’t beat me. I overwrote and deleted all my posts and haven’t been there since the end of June.
I’m not sure what’s more disappointing. Spez and Reddit’s actions or the people that are still hardcore defending them.
Reddit “won” but I predict it will never regain what it once was.
But the users will rise and the ad money will keep on coming.
We’re just the ghosts.
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Personally I don’t really mind as I have met some pretty cool other ghosts to hang and talk with here.
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For me I feel like reddit began declining when Victoria was fired in 2015.
Also reddit was invaded by shills and bullshit politics around 2015. For instance r/conspiracy turned from honest discussion of fringe theories like UFOs to ridiculous right wing horseshit about Hillary Clinton or whatever.
This is very much when it began to nose dive
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She was the one who worked with r/AmA and was the liaison with all of the celebrities doing AmAs and was frequently the one actually doing the posting from my understanding.
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Wait! Don’t go! This is actually a very small part of the fediverse experience. Give it a chance. :)
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Of course it is, you’ve barely scratched the surface, and a lot of that is still kinda trauma bonding. But stick around and dig in a little deeper, it’s a wonderful place.
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It’s quite strange seeing all these digg migrants complaining how the platform was ruined after they joined. As a 12 year plus Reddit account holder we saw you guys as the end being nigh. Of course that’s all water under the bridge now, it’s just interesting the different perspectives. :)
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But will reddit ever be the same as it was? I highly doubt it
Yeah. Twitter survived all the backlash but everyone is looking for a way out. That’s why threads gained so much traction on day one. Unfortunately they were missing a lot of key features (like hashtags for example) for people to stick around.
