I remember this episode from Better Off Ted.
This is what happens when a company has no diversity. Most companies dogfood their own production. Reminds me of Google’s gorilla situation…
Toyota is literally Japanese
That’s what I was thinking. How did this slip by? If I recall correctly, Toyota is better than average when it comes to quality control. This is Boeing-level laziness/incompetence.
Probably they knew of the issue, but didnt figure a solution before the deadline.
Nikon is too
This happens even on newer Toyotas, so it’s not exactly company-specific. The issue is the biased training data used for the face recognition system.
This seems more like an excuse. All these companies aren’t using the same training data.
They literally never tested this on an asian person before selling in the vehicle…
Your claim is a Japanese company never tested on Asian people? Would you place a bet on those odds?
Toyota in the US is more American than most American car companies. The tech being different isn’t that big of a stretch.
Toyota is a japanese manufacturer. Likely they localize the feature and the localized version has the problem. Its completely possible they all contract the same software vendors in the US for certification reasons, resulting in similar problems.
This makes more sense
Or potentially it did, found the issue, and werent able to solve before the deadline
Google’s gorilla situation?
Can people see why “DEI” programs are genuinely good things yet?
I mean I just liked them because you actually learn more about other perspectives…plus other cultures are pretty dope too…the white power idiots need to go out and realize white town is creepy and unpleasant.
white town is creepy and unpleasant
And simultaneously incredibly boring! There’s only so much alcohol and casseroles I can be entertained by…
I can see small teams not having the personal to account for every possiblity, but this should have gotten picked up in testing and not made it to production. There was an automatic soap dispenser that couldn’t see dark skin, but that didn’t make it to full scale production.
Just in case anyone doesn’t know the acronym: DEI is Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion
What does the system do when you wear sunglasses?
Automatically voids the warranty
Shh…you’re giving them ideas.
Maybe we could add mandatory accessoires.
You have to wear blood pressure, respiratory and heart rate sensors while driving.
Additionaly these could be made available to insurance companies for a small reduction in fees from 115% to 105%, so it feels cheaper while they tell you it’s for your own benefit.
I’m sure it is possible to disable this feature?
company vehicle. might not be allowed to for insurance reasons. 🤷♂️
The fun part is, company will get a higher premium after they go through data from that car and it’s “sleepy” driver.
That sounds like bullshit
I agree, but it’s happening.
Yes, telemetry-linked insurance is bullshit.
Sue the company for racism and creating a hostile work environment.
I’m not sure how serious I am.
Sorry asians. You know what you have to do.
I love this show, and this episode.
The irony of a strike killing it is honestly pretty amusing in hindsight, but that doesn’t give us the six seasons and a movie it deserved.
My white guy sucks
Removing Google tracker for ya (Piped)
”I am not a bot, and this action was performed manually”
Yeah I’m always a little lazy about that because I’m on Android anyways
My wife’s Asian and only been driving 3-years. LMFAO, she would be a shaking crying mess if the car kept yelling at her to pay attention.
Car manufacturer tried to make a safer and more attentive driver through monitor and warning systems, accidentally causes crippling anxiety instead.
Lol just like the old Xbox Kinect failing miserably at seeing dark skinned black people correctly or at all
There was also a automatic soap dispenser that couldn’t see dark skin.
My Ford transit kept telling me to pull over to rest. It was a windy day.
I have small eyes myself, and I’m not Asian. So it’d yell at me without the wind, lol. Also, I wonder how it’d work for those wearing sunglasses…
Maybe it recognizes sunglasses and skips this check while you wear them.
Warning, no eyes detected
Warning, driver is creepy
My car keeps screaming at me to keep my hands on the wheel, WHILE I’M FUCKING HOLDING IT.
Your car (Tesla?) has no sensors on the wheel that can detect your hands. That’s why you need to jerk the wheel every couple of seconds.
God no. It’s a Peugeot, and light hands on black wheel. But the other comment says it has no sensors, except the ones that detect movement of the wheel. so apparently i just have to jerk the wheel randomly, like a BMW driver and it will stop yelling at me.
Exactly, other cars do have ‘hand-detection-sensors’ so you on my have to touch the wheel. I would assume current BMWs should have it.
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Please re-read and understand what I wrote.
Impossible; I have ADHD
Because they are the fools?
So, what you are saying is, i"m driving too good, so the car thinks I’m not there? And we want to let those dumb things drive themselves?
You black with a black steering wheel or white with a white one?
My car’s lane assist deactivates if the road is too straight because I haven’t moved the steering wheel in too long. The only way to get it back is to swerve a bit.
My FIL shared that the lane assist tried to swerve into oncoming traffic shortly after they bought their new car with all the assist bells and whistles. On the other hand my MIL shouldn’t be driving and genuinely had the drowsy assist force her to be a bit safer. I’m seriously waiting for the day she finally loses her license either for drunk driving or just speeding/tailgating/illegally passing etc. excessively
Dude. I’m never buying a new car. That shit is insane.
Not mild, full blown racist
There has to be a way to calibrate it, no? Something like this can’t be designed without setting a baseline, and surely there’s a ton of variance.
For the manufacturer sure, the driver can’t do jack until there is a system update or recall.
My integra doesn’t have cameras but it monitors steering input and the road lines. I turned it off immediately but a family member of mine got frustrated because it would go off on him all the time in his Ford f150.
He often looks for deer while driving and can’t drive in a straight line because of it and that drifting to the center line/ edge of the road results in the system telling him to pull over and rest.
I’d assume unless he has a fancy German car he’s probably texting while driving or really bad at driving in a straight line. No mass market brand is going to bother installing cameras in the cab unless you are buying fairly expensive luxury car.
Edit: or it’s Toyota with their annoying systems. I wouldn’t know I avoid cars that scream at you for any little unsafe things it thinks you are doing. Toyota has eye tracking in their new cars and it beeps at you if you look away from the road for a fraction of a second from what I’ve heard.
how do people not realise how creepy it is for a car to have EYE-TRACKING
It’s creepy but systems like Toyota use infrared and looks for a reflection in your pupils.
Classic case of OWPITTS (only white people in the training set).
I am guessing the car wasn’t made by Subaru or Nissan and is from Ford, GMC, Tesla, BMW, or Mercedes.
My Subaru has a driver attention feature that’s constantly going off if I sit up straight because I’m too tall 🫠
“Feature”.
Classic case of OSPITTS (only small people in the training set).
“please sit back down!”
Please don’t drive while standing?
It happened to samsung’s phones years ago.
It wouldn’t surprise me if their Asian training models were more accurate with Koreans than other Asians. It could be made super accurate to Korean models due to sample size and cause the differences between Korean and Chinese models to trigger a false positive.
Classic case of OPWFREITTS (Only people with fire resistant ears in the training set)
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