I’m straight-up not comfortable uploading a government document online. Bite my shiny metal toosh, Microsoft.
Yup, had them lock an account before. Never gave them my info. Had to start a new account and actively work around their fraud protections with fingerprinting. And eventually reconnect. Pain in the butt.
You have zero recourse and no appeal process. Even uploading an ID doesn’t guarantee anything.
I have a blackened image (only photo and name visible) around for cases like this.
I was about to upload that. Then turns out they use a third party to process this…
During the sign-up process, they referenced even more third parties… so I gave up.
I consent to Persona collecting, using, and utilizing its third-party service providers to process my biometric information in order to verify my identity for fraud prevention, in accordance with the Persona’s Privacy Policy. Your biometric information will be stored for no longer than 6 months.
Yikes.
Happened to my friend. Had to jump through hoops for months to get his acct back.
There is no real alternative for networking professionally. None id advise anyways.
Ironically, Coursera requires govt ID to furnish certificates. I have a cyber security certificate sitting in limbo. I ain’t giving y’all my govt ID so I can obtain a cyber security cert. Seems like a trick!
Wait long enough and you get the real certificate
I wish I could articulate…
This should be a 4 panel comic, but I lack the creative skills to come up with 4 panels that adequately captures this joke. Also I can’t draw good.
In that case you wouldn’t have gotten the security part and your time and, maybe, money would have been lost, but you not having this certificate, ironically, demonstrates you learned enough
Ugh this sucks, but no, not really. LinkedIn isn’t just a platform, it’s the people on it. No other site exists that will get you the same amount of exposure. There are definitely other sites and non-internet options for networking in general though.
The amount of jobs I’ve gotten through LinkedIn: 0.
The number of people I have found from highschool/college/random person on the street who I can’t find in Facebook: waaaaaay too many. If it didn’t tell you who was looking for you, linkedin would be far creepier of a stalking tool. I mean, shit I’ve found people I’ve only seen a picture of. Now I know where they work, where they used to work, and went to school. By extension I now also know where they likely used to live and at least the general area that they live now (provided they don’t work remote that is).
The more I think about LinkedIn, the more I want to remove my profile.
The #1 feature they won’t add: I hated this job.
They always show industry jobs and suggested connections from all your jobs…if they were human and not interested in maximizing data suck they would have talked to 3-5 users out of their millions and realized people have bad job experiences and want to delete the memory, not be reprompted about it for eternity. Also, even when you decline a suggested person, imagine your worst coworker, they suggest them again later. Fucking stupid robot company
Another anecdote: my life completely changed because of a random recruiter on LinkedIn offered me a job I didn’t even know existed. Doubled my salary from one day to the next. Three years later, another recruiter added another 50% bump.
I found my current and previous job via LinkedIn but I applied through company recruitment portals. It’s an ok job board / aggregator for us corporate types. You just have to ignore extremely deranged and deluded people posting ego stroke fests and the most inane advice.
Indeed is an alternative but I never used it.
Indeed is not an alternative to networking with people who work at companies you are interested in, no.
There’s been people talking about making a federated version (of LinkedIn), but I havent seen any actual code written.
I think it has potential, but without enough people wanting to hop on, it will be an empty solution.
Quality over quantity, I guess. It could be a great place to recruit IT and Linux pros, lol.
That’s true! Lol anyone hiring? My place just started a hiring freeze.
For a grad school project last year, I proposed a Fediverse version of LinkedIn, with the ability to find and hire people for projects.
It’s just in the proposition stage, but I got pretty excited about it. If allowed the opportunity, I might work on it as my capstone project early next year.
please do this
That’s something I’d volunteer to contribute.
Bad ending: you refused to use corporative happy-go-round lingo in your post
Kind of bs, seeing as how I use my friend’s account (with permission) to access the free Udemy courses that his career provides him and I’ve never seen this. Figures they’d nail legitimate users and completely miss people who abuse the system. Typical Microsoft.
Hope an alternative comes someday; I’ve always disliked LinkedIn.
Alternative: Submit resumes directly to companies you are interested in and/or use a recruiter. The latter is surprisingly nice. Last time I used one I got lined up for phone interviews with little effort and the recruiter pushed the company forward during the hiring pipeline when the company was being wishy-washy.
The recruiter only gets full payment if you get hired and stay at your job for a full year. (And this payment does not come from you!)
I have such bad things to say about recruiters. They generally don’t have a clue about any of the skills related to the jobs I’m after, and they take a huge cut of the pay the entire time I’m working the job.
On the other hand, the two best jobs (highest pay and best working environment) I’ve had in my career, I got through recruiters, so I acknowledge them as a useful business when it works out. The last one has led to the company buying my contract and hiring me directly for the past 12 years
This has been my experience the past 8 years or so. Before that they seemed to kind of have an idea. I get approached about stuff that is totally not my area of expertise in my field lol. Like you’re a tech recruiter, shouldn’t you have a basic idea and understand that a SQL expert is not a Microsoft 365 expert, or something?
That honestly looks like the only option. Just gonna set up a github pages with my resume and keep that updated instead.
I’m employed at the moment so this isn’t that big a deal.
That’s what I decided.
It will be more informative, and I have lots of options for hosting.
In most cases the cut-off is six months, not a year.
Second on the recruiters (although i met all mine through linkedin). my last two company hops were using recruiters and i had multiple job offers to consider both times.
How do you find a recruiter without LinkedIn?
Do a web search for recruiting firms. Find one who specifically mentions they recruit for your industry.
Michael Page found mm e a job once
Xing.com, basically German LinkedIn.
Oh, I thought that was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xing_Technology
I agree with you about not wanting to share a government document with a shitty social media company. But companies that tie your account to your identity are going to insist on this moving forward. You have a right to complain, but don’t be surprised if they insist. Their walled garden, their rules.
As a US Citizen, I have found that sending them an image of a US passport card is a decent compromise. The card itself is only useful for travel at land borders, but counts as Federally-issued ID. It has your name, nationality, passport card number, and date of birth, but not your address. The picture isn’t really good for much. And, perhaps most importantly, all the ICAO stuff that is normally on your passport page is on the back of the passport card, meaning that a picture of just the front doesn’t have all the info. Bonus points if you are old enough to have an expired one, then the card number will be useless.
There is very little damage a identity thief can do with just a passport card number. You are probably at more risk with your DOB being there. But, due to COPA, they probably have your DOB anyway. People can’t even book flights with it, as passport cards are only for land crossings.
I had this same thing happen when I tried to sign up years ago. There is no way around it, there is no alternative. The only option is to send them pictures of your ID, which is in the “hell no” category on my to do list.
