This is true for most popular things for me. I’m always wondering how this is so popular.
I’m so disconnected I don’t even have Netflix or any other streaming service
What’s television? Is it that thing boomers use?
It is a very big monitor
At least, that is how I use it.
TV and streaming sucks. Movies suck. I’ve seen so many of them in the past that there’s really nothing new out there that’s any good any more because it’s all just rehashing and reimagining the past. Same with gaming. Same with books. And music. We’re so buried under a ton of entertainment that we can just stop making new entertainment and watch everything done in the past and still have enough to last us our entire lifetime. So what’s the point? If we’re going to have streaming, give us everything old – EVERYTHING – for a very low cost or free with limited ads and stop making new shit for your platform, all on one service.
sounds like you only focus on pop culture bullshit.
try getting into shit that isn’t designed to entertain you. classics, art films, art music, etc
I hear this a lot and do understand the sentiment but oh man in the last 3-4 years there have been so many great original and lower budget not blockbuster movies that have come out it’s great. Horror has really had a renaissance in the last 3 years with fresh ideas and plenty of new actors who are very good. It’s just not the things that are ever advertised a ton and probably have to scrounge through trailer YouTube’s to find them or sign up for newsletters. Some examples from recent years are Barbarian (2022), Infinity Pool (2023), Monkey Man (2024), The Holdovers (2023) and Perfect Days (2024).
Remember when Netflix had a million dollar competition to improve their recommendation system by something like 10%? Remember when they had user ratings and reviews? Remember when they threw it all in the fucking trash?
The original recommendation engine was amazing. Showed me stuff I loved that I would have never found myself. My favorite example is the French claymation acid trip called “A Town Named Panic”
Now all I get recommended are shows that are cancelled and that I’ve already watched.
That was a great film, very charming and bizarre
I watched it because it was the top pick in children’s movies and ended up enjoying it more than my kids. I rewatch it every few years because it’s just so weird and good.
Another one is the TV show Oscar’s Oasis. It has no dialog, but a very Coyote-and-Roadrunner feel. My kids loved it and it was actually pretty funny.
But when we were at Disney World we ended up sitting next to a family from Brazil who knew very little English and their kids were watching Oscar’s Oasis and my kids immediately joined them.
The goal isn’t to give you stuff you want to watch, the goal is to do just enough that is just good enough to keep the highest amount of users subscribed. We like to think those are the same thing and they are usually aligned, but don’t have to be. It’s better for Netflix if you find those slower and just keep coming back to look around, kind of like some frustrating streaming gatcha game.
Maximize subscriptions, minimize actual watch time.
It wasn’t long after they “improved” the recommendation engine that I set up my Plex server so I guess it was successful?
Think Panique au village was Belgian. Great watch yes.
That was such a glorious time. I recall they even held a competition at one point to develop a recommendation algorithm that could predict whether or not someone would enjoy Napoleon Dynamite
Pepperidge farm remembers
I wanna take a minute to plug criterion channel. Objectively the value is worse than Netflix. But they have an amazing collection of films nonetheless. I put their 24/7 channel on and just watch whatever is on. Never in a million years thought I would be into classic French cinema.
On a side rant fuck the French and their films! They drop you right into a situation with no clear good or bad guys. The films have meandering plots that go nowhere because why would they!?!? At the end there’s no resolution, just an empty chasam in your soul you’ve somehow overlooked your entire existence. And the worst part is they just put “fin” up on the screen and that’s that. Fuckin foreign nonsense
There’s all sorts of treasures, may be worth a peek.
Kanopy has a lot of international films. It’s free through my library.
Man I miss when they were part of Hulu
The villain in French films is the villain in every film: the French!
The comments here are enlightening. In a dismaying sort of way.
It seems nothing drives a wedge between all people in a community than algorithms like the Netflix Top Ten. Everybody eyeing everyone else with suspicion, when actually no one is actually watching that crap.
It would be pretty stupid if our our movie preferences were basis for hostility.
Yeah sometimes when I am bored out of my mind I used to troll Star Wars subreddits or Harry Potter but like never 100% serious. It was always only about this perverse enjoyment of riling people up and nothing more. I wouldn’t do it on Lemmy but like Reddit i don’t care, it can die.
Come to think about it this is the only way I use Reddit for since some time hm… not that I encourage it but maybe. In my eyes you are still an angel if you troll on Reddit but are cultured pro social on Lemmy.
You ever watch a quick MauLer video on Star Wars and how great they are?
What’s the Netflix top 10…?
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/united-states
As of today:
- Atlas
- Colors of Evil: Red
- Shrek
- Madame Web
- A Simple Favor
- The Super Mario Bros. Movie
- Godzilla Minus One
- Mother of the Bride
- Thelma the Unicorn
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
Interestingly enough, I can access this link, but their startpage has no way to get there as far as I can tell. I can relate to the screencapped statement though. The TV shows list is even worse. But maybe Netflix just doesn’t have a whole lot of great stuff, dunno.
Didn’t try to find it on their homepage, I just googled the link.
Also, I see at least ONE movie I can relate to, and 3 or 4 I haven’t watched but would probably enjoy.
Yeah, I don’t really use search engines as substitutes for the lack of an actual menu on a website. If they can’t bother with that then I’m not going to bother trying to dig through it for them either. Haven’t watched any of those movies since they don’t really interest me or straight up don’t even say anything to me.
It’s a top ten list on Netflix.
Movies or TV Shows.
Thanks, but that was not what I was asking. lmao
Sorry. These are from the UK
TV Shows.
- Eric 2024
- Dancing for the Devil 2022
- Geek Girl 2024
- Bridgerton 2024
- Young Sheldon 2022
- Kevin Bridges The Overdue Catchup 2023
- Hitler and the Nazis 2024
- Rich House Poor House
- Raising Voices
- New Amsterdam
Films
- Under Paris
- The Contractor
- The Footballer His wife and the crash
- Godzilla Minus One
- Minions the rise of Gru
- Colors of evil red
- Atlas
- Ice Age 5
- Ice Age 3
- Mother of the bride
I got bored writing the dates. This was not easy on a phone but I should make up for my silly comment.
Godzilla Minus One was #1 yesterday. I’m glad to finally see some good taste on there.
Oh shit, I know what I’m doing after work today!
Don’t bother. They don’t have the black and white version.
No one’s stopping you from turning the color saturation to 0 on your TV/Monitor.
Fun Fact: I thought Bubba Ho-tep was in black and white when I first watched it. Turns out the DVD player was broken. I kind of liked it better in black and white.
This is a bespoke black and white experience.
They won an Oscar for this version of the movie.
It’s good. Don’t expect Shin Godzilla good, but it’s definitely good. I actually cared about the people in this one.
I went to the cinema to see it and it was amazing. I think I cried 3-4 times during it. Just one punch to the feels after another.
Seriously. You’re like ok all the bad things happened, it cou- oh no it just got even worse.
BUT THEN THERE SHE IS, THERE SHE IS AND HE DIDNT KNOW
God that movie got me in the feels
I never trusted that list from the getgo. Why wouldn’t they use it to promote certain content? It would be wasted opportunity if they didn’t.
Because they already have paying users.
They want engagement, which for Netflix means looking at what seems popular and promoting those.
But most likely not.
Sometimes it shows a new release I’ll watch. In fact, the list is basically just a list of what is new, like sorting by “hot”.
Godzilla minus one is currently dominating that and I absolutely agree with that choice!
It keeps trying to get me to watch the new Zack Snyder Star Wars rip-off.
I watched the first one. I’d take a prostate exam by Edward Scissorhands before I waste another two hours of my life on the sequel.
Rebel Moon. Oh yeah, they’re so bad. And apparently a third one is on the way, and the extended cuts for all of them.
“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
“LOL just grab all that shit off the cutting room floor. Four hours sounds about right for a movie!” – Zack Snyder
“And by the way, Warhammer 40K: Winter Assault kicked ass!”
Hack Snyder
2 hours of grain harvest
PSA: The top 10 lists are 100% bought and paid for, or pushed by the streaming service in question.
The new payola… payolix?
You know I’ve worked on these sorts of bullshit features (under protest) as a developer (special sorting algorithms that bump up the score of monetized entries over organic (aka real) ones) and somehow I never stopped to think that everyone was likely doing the same.
Naivety, I guess
Something like this?
SELECT * FROM content ORDER BY (views + bribe) DESC;
‘Top 10 highest Netflix bribes’.
Absolutely. Ever since shitflix removed the star ratings and reviews that were done by real people, I stopped believing any of that “top list” bullshit.
oh my how scandalous
Ah yes, Atlas, the bootleg titanfall movie
It was still kinda fun for a couple hours.
During the pandemic I just sort of forgot about movies and most TV. I hadn’t even heard of 90% of the stuff nominated last awards season.
For the most part it doesn’t come up, but every so often I end up in a conversation where I feel like an alien.
That’s pretty much the rest of the planet whenever US people talk about “world famous” people
I just assumed the Netflix top 10 were movies/shows they were trying to push, not based on actual veiwership.
I don’t get why the streaming services would care what media people watch. Are they pushing stuff that is cheaper to license?
Stuff that is actually there, the vast emptiness of the Netflix catalog is the real horror.
80% (being generous) of Netflix is low quality Netflix produced trash they try and get you to watch so they don’t have to pay royalties or commissions to anyone.
I gave it up years ago.
They want to get recommendations just good enough to keep you hooked. If they show you just the objectively best, you would instantly know after seeing the best ones, that the rest of the catalogue is worse and worse.
This is how Netflix was in the beginning. I actually unsubscribed for a while for yhis reason. Now I’m as hooked as ever, there might still be a few good ones out there - I just need to keep scrolling for a few hours. /s
I’d agree with you, but I’ve seen Morbius up there.
I believe that they have said the top 10 is based on views, but haven’t given the windoww for that count or whether the thimbs up/down ratings factor into it. That seems plausible as it is promoted as a popularity indicator and tends to have recent additons and already popular stuff listed.
Now the trending category is most likely the stuff they are trying to promote.
This is what The Algorithms have been doing from the start.
It is only just now coming to light just how manipulative YouTube, FaceBook, Twitter, Instagram are configured.
It isn’t about increasing Ad views or Viewer engagement; it is all about controlling viewer opinions and belief systems.
That’s a bingo. Any “trending” algorithm is designed to get you to click on it. It’s not a source of accurate information.
It’s the same with search results. You’re searching for X? Here’s something X-adjacent we’ve been paid to show you that you might click on while looking for X. We’re going to call it “what others buy” and hope you do, too.
You just say Bingo.
It really bothers me because I want to buy actual good quality stuff but I have no idea how to find it because I don’t trust any reviews or anything on search engines at all really.
This is one of the big things that killed Amazon for me. They used to have a great search and filter function that was designed to make it as easy as possible to find what you were looking for. Now it’s designed to find things that are related to your search and ignore your filters when sellers pay them to promote their product. Combined with the fake reviews and the ocean of low quality trash that fills 95% of their inventory, it’s now actually easier to drive to a store and search shelves manually than it is to sit and click.
And don’t get me started on AI generated “reviews” that are just reworded marketing material with affiliate links. It used to be that google could get you some relatively reliable sources, but most of those have long since replaced real reviews with this bullshit. At this point, I just assume every review is a lie unless I see a video of a human testing the product while taking about it.
I honestly think that anyone who is making money by misleading consumers with product reviews that aren’t actually based on some interaction with the product should be in prison for fraud.
Even if they’re not making money they should be.
Nothing is real.
Lemmy All Top 6??!
Top 7 “All” of all time on Lemmy, as seen by my instance:
None younger than 10 months old, on a platform largely only about 12 months old in total. So once again, not really representative of the lifetime of the site, or what the site is like today.
Yeah, to be clear that’s “of all time”. Like, if we listed the greatest human achievements of all time - fire, gunpowder, antibiotics, computers, vaccines, the internet, etc. - that list would not be expected to change daily or even once a century.:-)
Also, every single one is either 10 or 11 months old - with only one exception being 9 months. That is obviously some kind of spike related to the Rexodus:-P.
The Fediverse is much older than 12 months btw - your list contains posts from outside of Aussie.zone so it’s not looking at Local but rather All, so it includes those, which you can get to by sorting by Old.
TLDR: “top of all time” is not intended to be anyone’s default search - Top or Active or New would be much better choices.
5 posts about lemmy itself and 1 about musk? That sounds pretty accurate.
No posts about open source. Nothing queer. No tankies or even leftist. I wouldn’t say that the best representation of today’s Lemmy.
Maybe it’s missing some technology stuff. I don’t think leftist posts get that upvoted, even if there’s a lot of them.
Thanks - oops shoulda said “Lemmy All Top 6 Hours”
