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Absolutely not, they’re everywhere.
No, we didn’t. Tons of Reddit trolls are here.
wheres ur /s so i know ur not being real 😡
I’m being real.
Found one! /jk
I’m here, so there’s at least one troll.
hit me with your biggest troll
NO /S FR FR
Hmmm. That time I convinced some kid to “roleplay” as this other guys dead wife in order to give him closure so he would give the kid money in some game is likely my greatest hit.
Edit: I should mention that the guy with the “dead wife” ended up being a popular GTA roleplay comedy streamer with an improvisation game that’s hard to beat. This was years before any of that though and on an mmo. https://m.twitch.tv/miltontpike1
I hate /s so much. It’s like a LAUGH NOW indicator.
Im here though
Me too.
dum dum sounding off
Our brains so smooth, we slip through the cracks.
Not likely. I’ve seen people so politically corrupt they just refuse all sources as russian misinformation
Sounds like something some lefty commie would say
/s’ as my sarcasm is plural.
I find /s helpful :(
Autism gang?
In a world where the most outlandish opinions are often genuine, it definitely helps to have a sarcasm indicator.
I’ve been experimenting with the use of ‘⸮’. As all the best things in language, it allows me to show off my feeling of cultured superiority⸮
(and requires a link to Wikipedia) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation
I can’t find this key ANYWHERE ON MY KEYBOARD
One of these days I’m gonna get myself a space cadet keyboard so I’ll have enough Bucky bits to type this stuff on my desktop.
Until then, there’s always my phone’s on-screen keboard, I guess¿¡⸮‽
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We are enlightened acorporal beings of pure thaougt living on this rarerified plane of dotworld. We need no hashtags to convey our multivariate meanings. Each word has 1000 facets that are immediately understood by fellow Lemmingtons. Truly we are blessed.
Born too late to explore the world, too early for the galaxy, but just in time to read dank memes and chat with other nerds on Lemmy.
I think it’s lemmings not lemmingtons
I like “lembos”.
That works!
Only enlightened acorporal lemmings are Lemmingtons, peasant
Or Lemmiacs. Though I can’t take credit for that, it was ChatGPT.
Because We Are All Lemmiacs
/s is an excellent modifier for sarcasm. There’s no tone in text and bold/italic can only do so much. And with how many absolute crackpots are posting all over the internet, I’d prefer to be sure to not lump in a jokester with the absolute nutjobs.
/S Is aN ExCeLlEnT MoDiFiEr fOr sArCaSm. ThErE’S No tOnE In tExT AnD BoLd/iTaLiC CaN OnLy dO So mUcH. aNd wItH HoW MaNy aBsOlUtE CrAcKpOtS ArE PoStInG AlL OvEr tHe iNtErNeT, i’d pReFeR To bE SuRe tO NoT LuMp iN A JoKeStEr wItH ThE AbSoLuTe nUtJoBs.
I definitely prefer /s over this style of sarcasm.
tHiS is only useful for short phrases. Saying more than one sentence in this style makes me just skip the paragraph because it’s annoying to read.
I’d much rather “/s” than this. Though the difference may be small, this text reads as sardonic, while sarcasm may not always be meant in a mocking tone. Plus readability is important to me.
I lot of use of /s just indicates that there are a lot of jaded people making snide comments. We haven’t gotten to that stage yet.
Sarcasm doesn’t require tone to operate.
Poe says otherwise.
Declaring confusion to exist is a way of creating confusion.
But my false sense of entitlement!
/s h
That’s the whole point of sarcasm though, that the delivery seems genuine. Don’t write the opposite of what you mean if you aren’t willing to have some people misunderstand you.
And yes, people who use sarcastic tone in conversation are also missing the point. They also should not say the opposite of what they mean.
Sarcasm was developed in spoken word. If you are using the written word, it needs to be painfully obvious if you want the meaning to come across. But due to Poe’s Law, that’s becoming harder and harder these days. Especially in the political and human rights discussion.
No one is forcing you to use /s. But shitting on people using it because you don’t think it’s “pure” is asinine and also abelism.
Even with my username people still don’t understand.
iT Is tHE oNlY OpTiOn!
It totes is. Obvs
Right? There’s literally no other way to make it clear that you’re being sarcastic
That’s the best part of internet sarcasm. There is little in this world that is more fun than a 6 reply deep argument between someone making serious counterpoints to my sarcastic comments, while I try to see how much more sarcastic I can become before they figure it out.
Putting a tag up absolutely ruins the fun.
I’ve found most people online feign sarcasm as a way to defend their ego more than anything else.
Or they imagine everyone is hating on them because they didn’t get the sarcasm. No, we got the sarcasm. It’s just a terrible joke.
Also helpful for people with trouble reading tone in text cuz of things like autism.
…and writing tone… for the same reasons. 😬
It wouldn’t be the first time I get myself into a trouble because of that :(
As someone with autism, I’m here to say that it is actually the opposite of helpful.
People need challenges in order to grow. They need opportunities to fail.
Putting training wheels on sarcasm makes autistic people even further behind the social curve by depriving us of opportunities to fail.
Much like a sterile childhood environment has been scientifically proven to be a causal factor in developing allergies as an adult, I predict that science will eventually establish a causal link between lack of ambiguous communication during developmental years, and reduced intelligence in life.
Human society is so fucking hard to understand for an autistic person, and I really appreciate your looking out for me, but the struggle is worth it, and human culture is intricate and beautiful, and that’s why I chose this username.
You misunderstand, this is from my own perspective as an autistic person. Plus, the lack of tone of voice over text can make communication harder, for everyone. It’s literally just a tool for communication, clearing up what you mean.
But that’s the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing “A Modest Proposal,” and he expected it! If someone doesn’t want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean.
Okay but lots of other autistic people I know really appreciate tone indicators so you cannot really speak for everyone. Not to mention, why does knowing that something was meant to be sarcastic hinder learning instead of essentially guessing?
How ever did autistic people survive before the internet to help them cope?
I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn’t survive until a few decades ago
Well that’s a massively gross exaggeration.
That’s the only legitimate defense for having to tag your sarcasm I’ve ever read.
Back in MY DAY, nobody tagged their sarcasm on BBS or IRC and we ALL UNDERSTOOD AAAAA (but srsly for folks who have trouble with tone you’re fully right.)
What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks.
Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks.
Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that “I’m only kidding”. If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.
This. I remember having a text file of emoticons back in the day because I couldn’t remember what they were supposed to mean (and often didn’t mean what I thought). :-/
That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all.
Source: me
To me it’s born out of this moment: “Wait, will someone see this joke and think I’m serious? If they did they’d think I’m a psycho…”
That is exactly what Poe’s Law is.
[…A]ny parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken […as] sincere
Am i wooshing myself??
That is literally the point of sarcasm. People legitimately wanted to murder Jonathan Swift.
If you write “/s”, just write the direct unironic statement in the first place.
If that were holistically true the concept of a “sarcastic tone” wouldn’t exist in verbal speech.
Yes, the /s and sarcastic tone both exist and are used by people.
“If you want to tell a joke in which the humor is derived from you saying something incorrect, or something that would be offensive if you genuinely believed it, you should instead just say the actual truth and never use sarcasm again”
That’s actually such a good idea, it would make life on the internet so much better /s
If you want to make a joke, assume that some people won’t get it. If you don’t want any ambiguity then no, do not use sarcasm. If you write “/s”, you’re not being sarcastic at all, you’re just using a double negative.
That’s not what a double negative is
People on Reddit are scared of downvotes affecting their karma score, so they have to tag controversial comments to make it absolutely clear if their comment is sarcasm.
Personally I used it to keep shinigami eyes users from tagging my then-universal handle as problematic when I made an off-color joke. I’ve been banned from subreddits I never heard of because of something I said as a joke in a totally different subreddit
I have used it because my sarcastic comment, read at face value, might encourage someone to support something I despise. I’m not interested in creating or bolstering that shit, I just want to make fun of it. Karma points never had anything to do with it. I had millions but what’s a million nothings, still nothing. Reddit Karma is just multiplying by zero.
How else do you combat Poe’s law
You don’t write the opposite of what you mean. And Poe’s law isn’t a problem to be combatted, it’s a gift.
Oh so just don’t use sarcasm ever. Wow why didn’t I think of that?
Now you’re getting it!
By making people smarter and better acquainted with one another.
When the society’s too big to know everyone, we rely on shared culture to know things about the people we’re talking to.
Poe’s Law is a (cynical, defeatist, self-fulfilling) declaration that we have lost cultural cohesiveness as a society.
We need to take risks in order to adapt and survive. And the risk that some internet stranger might miss your sarcasm in a comment is such a small risk it’s extremely bad news if we become so risk intolerant we won’t venture some unmarked sarcasm.
The whole point of sarcasm is that it signals cooperation and cohesion between two minds. It’s like a handshake. Don’t underestimate culture just because it doesn’t seem to have a function.
Sarcasm is like the appendix. Useless until we figure out what it’s useful for.
So… make an echochamber and have everyone circlejerk each other…
Look while it sounds bad, you really cant have many worthwhile discussions if you only talk to the people you agree with, (ie. Like minded individuals) you need to talk to people that dont agree with you and that means that is very likely they dont think like you and things like sarcasm can go over their heads and think you are being genuine while you are not. So i say stick wit the " /s" thing
What’s stopping me from deploying sarcasm as a means of poor-faith social manipulation against those who believe that?
I’d love it if everyone was educated with at least some core values to relate to, but we live in this current reality where a dumb-fuck can lure people to Romania by preying on similar social comforts.
Trusting your fellow humans isn’t inherently wrong, but people also believe Trump is going to jump-start the rapture. The /s is such a minor addition that costs me almost nothing to deploy and benefits everyone. The negatives to people responding to /s, like getting irrationally upset, are worth it compared to the negatives of assuming everyone has ‘common sense’, like the methodical social degradation from predators.
Bro I’m just here for the memes
Haven’t you seen that here? /s
I’ve seen it.
On unrelated matter: are emojis allowed on lemmy?
💀💀💀
🤷
As long as it’s not every 2-3 words or as cryptic as hieroglyphs, I think decent emoji usage can be acceptable. Like everything, moderation tastes best. 🍻
Cheers mate! 🍺
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A-well-a 𓅹, b-𓅺’s the word(Side note: those aren’t emoji, actual Ejyptian Heiroglyphs have a Unicode block, range U+13000…U+1342F.)
Who cares? 🤷♀️ Screw the rules, use em anyway
/s
/s
This is some solid grade A pandering. You’re aware there’s no karma to farm, right?
But your karma in life will catch up.
I mean… No it won’t. Like, we all know better at this point. We’ve all seen by how some of the worst people alive live.
Comfortably. They live comfortably.
