Can someone translate this meme into FreedomBurger™ units?
The social contract is null and void if it means a European ever has to see a Muslim person on the street.
Part of the reason the right is doing so well is this sort of hyperbole from the left, we need to work on convincing people rather than drive them further into the arms of the right
EU is having a moment because their Trumper types gained a lot of seats. They can’t pretend it’s just an American problem anymore.
We never did
I’m actually hopeful that America had a brush with death and may shy away from that noise this time. We’ve got about 30% of the population still holding that loaded gun to our heads, but I think the rest of us understand what happens if we let them pull the trigger. Time will tell.
I hope the rest of us understand that Treason Flag Alito and Corrupt Clarence are on a team considering whether or not to hand the president a Long Knife.
Happy for you, that you can feel Superior again.
Nothing about “rising fascism is not unique to the US” has any relation to any perceived superiority.
We get it though, you have some sort of inferiority complex but you don’t gotta project onto the entire fuckin country
Thanks for dumbing it down for us colonials.
For the Americans: it’s still not nearly as bad as in the US, but we may be slowly getting there.
Is yours, at least, not as obviously stupid and obviously bad?
Like are they at least able to sound reasonably intelligent? Because that’s what gets me about ours. Fuckin Trump basically has a giant red arrow pointing from space that says “This fucker is evil and stupid” but people worship him anyway?
It goes from “this is a critical problem” to “this is a critical problem and extremely embarrassing too.”
For real. The Nazis at least had matching uniforms. Our fascists can’t even buy the same brand of khakis and white polos. Talk about history repeating as a farce…
Just wait until they find out who made them look like that:
Don’t forget about Chanel!
Haha, what?
We literally predicted Trump before you voted for him, because of the right-wing populism that caused Brexit.
Wow! The prescient power to detect… checks notes
A pendulum swinging back!
No wonder you guys conquered the world.
Trump is just Berlusconi 2.0
It’s sad, but predictable. Here’s to hoping for strong antifascist resistance on the ground as the EU itself teeters down the fascist pipeline.
Not only the EU. Bigotry, fascism and in general all types of extremism ( on both left and right ) are on the rise on the world stage. Its very sad but very predictable…
Genuine question, where are the extreme left rising? I haven’t seen any but that might be the algorithms/my news sources talking.
Well, i include extreme left because a centre left barely exists anymore on the political field. They are by far the minority, but they exists and they are absorbing the central left
Where is the extreme left rising? Asking for a friend who needs extrication
Maybe referring to china’s treatment of minorities? Though usually when people say “extreme left” they are referring to scary groups like public transit advocates.
It’s a good thing that the left seems to be rising in the Global South, but fascism in the Global North is scary, yed.
Antifa will do absolutely nothing. Either these countries start taxing the rich and providing basic needs for their population or the right will rise.
That wouldn’t be enough, sadly. Anti-immigrant rhetoric is already supremely high, literal Nazism is on the rise.
Because the lower class cannot afford housing and food anymore. Most of us are likely not in the same situation as those people. We can still get by but those people are stating to go in the red. They just want to work 9-5 and afford their basic needs. Which they now cannot do anymore. And they need something to blame. Government abusing housing as an investment tool? Quick, blame immigrants for the housing shortage. etc.
Luckily Fascismo inc always offers a convenient black sheep.
guess people want to live in shit
Their argument being is that as long as others have it worse, its a sacrifice they are willing to make.
No, people want the people they dont like to live in shit. And dont care if that means they have to live in shit too.
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I don’t. Let them live in shit but leave me out of it.
Welcome to democracy.
In Austria seeing FPÖ winning is like a slap into the face.
Does the f stand for what I think it does?
what you think it stand for?
Nevermind I see ot stamds for Freiheit
It’s “win stupid prizes,” still, right?
Idk it’s just a scam prices like big chocolate bars with two or three actual bars inside, and big stuffed animals filled with sawdust
We didn’t get to see the rest of Europe in “children of men”, but I am guessing that is what’s coming
BRITAIN STANDS FREE
Immigrants being processed out
Damn pretty accurate
more like when we still believe a burgeois state will put good politicians in power.
Ahh lemmy.ml, never change.
Ahhh America, you won’t ever change.
Don’t be ridiculous! America has been changing quite a lot over the last decade, decidedly for the worse.
America will change, it’s a declining Imperialist state and wealth disparity is skyrocketing.
I’ll give you that. I meant change in a positive light, but that’s hardly ever the case these days.
I meant a positive light too, actually. Eventually there will be a point where the bread runs low and the circuses go empty, and the Empire will go the way of Rome. It’s unlikely it will go the way of Britain.
Maybe we view ‘positive’ in different ways lmao. I wouldn’t necessarily consider riots and violent uprising (what happens when the bread runs out and the circus is empty) positive. Their outcomes though? Those can be.
Yes, I am referring to the outcomes, so we can put this nightmare behind us.
Perhaps instead of mocking America, you guys should’ve spent more time making sure politicians like American conservatives didn’t get elected
American conservatives can’t be voted out by voting extra hard, each vote is a vote and there are limits on canvassing and trying to bring over conservatives. America is declining, there is constant fearmingering about immigrants, and people long for “the good old days” while very little progressive movement happens. These conditions are ripe for fascism to take hold, horrifyingly enough.
Even if that’s all true, we owe it to our forebears to still try. And I don’t mean literal ancestors, but the American left throughout history. They fought against slavery, for equal civil rights, for the right to vote, and for the dignity to be seen as a full person. Workers rights advocates fought to give us safer working conditions and better work life balance. And all of these people were beaten and some even killed in the process.
Things don’t look great right now, but I don’t know if things have ever looked good in the US. It’s always been pretty terrible in some regard if you weren’t a rich white straight man.
Maybe the struggle will be futile in the end. But I don’t want to give up, because the people before us didn’t give up, and honestly faced harder odds.
They dont fight any more. They’ve been conditioned to think that violence is barbaric and we just need to meet Nazis in the “marketplace” and “win them over with better ideas”.
I’m did my part! o7
The rest of America enjoys the fascism.
agreed. its nice here.
but also some variety can’t hurt either.
Austria could have gone worse, despite the FPÖ up. In Germany you have this kind of cordon sanitaire, the other parties have an agreement of sorts to never cooperate with the AfD, the CDU/CSU has been a bit flimsy on that though.
Meanwhile in Austria, the FPÖ has been around forever and used to represent some liberal politics way back when so they didn’t have that cordon sanitaire, including coalition governments between the ÖVP (the equivalent of the CDU/CSU but imbroiled somehow in more political turmoil in recent years) and FPÖ on numerous occasions. And what happened in this election is that basically three seats went from the ÖVP straight to the FPÖ.
Basically Austrian representation in the EU probably got marginally worse for all it matters, but in turn the CDU/CSU saw that any cooperation with the AfD would just lead to voters of theirs just going to the AfD in the long run, strengthening the case for a cordon sanitaire.
At least I hope that’s how they’ll interpret it. The other Austrian shift was one from the Greens to the heavily pro-EU NEOS, as much as I’ll disagree on some of their domestic policies when it comes to their EU politics they’re a bit more palatable.
Germany is being interpreted as a disaster, but the only hard right party is the AfD and they’re up around 5% it looks like… and there are 13 other parties about to represent Germany in the EU parliament. France is looking terrible though, at least the RN has at least pretended to cut off ties to the AfD. And the equivalent of the CDU/CSU in France is near death, so it’s not like voters in the middle had anywhere to go other than Macron or RN.
I think germany could have gone worse, and people are quick to see that the AfD has the second most votes and cry disaster, but reality is that left wing votes are just split between more parties. Overall “cdu and further right” seems to bd about evenly split with “left of cdu”.
But still, compared to both the previous EU election and the most recent national election, it got quite a bit worse. CDU and AfD combined were at 36% in the last national election, they’re up by about 5% each, and that while the CDU has been getting closer to the AfDs position in recent years.
Nevertheless, 16% for a Nazi party is more than 16% too much.
I was a pessimist, therefore the results have actually come out pretty good to me. Far right didn’t win Belgium, and Left party gained a lot of seats in Finland while right wing parties lost seats. Yeah Germany (eyes them suspiciously) and France turned out very right, but a lot of the other countries stayed about ideologically the same or gained left leaning seats.
Overall it seems it’s balanced enough to keep going with the corporate accountability / public convenience stuff we’ve been seeing here in the EU, especially related to tech.
It’s quite sad that I’m glad the Vlaams Belang is only the second largest party in Flanders and the N-VA beat them with a few percentage points.
i don’t remember a time France wasn’t reactionary (in my lifetime obviously). they were in the islamophobia business way before it was cool everywhere else.
Though Islam has certainly become the primary target over the last 20 years.
France has been uncomfortably xenophobic for as long as I can remember. It’s never really been addressed.
Gee willikers, I wonder why?
Did something happen there?
Why do they have a fucking bomb proof wall around the Eiffel Tower?
I guess we’ll never know
Weren’t there some Charlie Hebdo happenings regarding some drawings? Can’t seem to understand why would they have something against some particular group
The bigotry is not in “there are evil Muslims…”, the bigotry is in following it up with “… hence Muslims are evil”.
Whilst it’s still racism to think “this minority ethnicity are good people” (because it’s still generalising by etnicity and prejudice) like some neolibs cosplaying as lefties do, that doesn’t make the “some people who did bad deeds are from a specific ethnicity hence the whole ethnicity is bad” thinking of the far-right (who cosplay as facing of against those neolibs in identitarian wars) any less racist prejudice.
oh i forgot if you get attacked it makes bigotry ok.
At this point, after seeing the reaction of the German political mainstream to the Zionist Genocide - of unwavering support very overtly because of the ethnicity of those doing the deeds - it should be no surprise at all that, just like the “judging and acting towards others first and foremost based on their ethnicity” taken to the extreme level of supporting Genocide if committed by the “good” ethnicity (in other words, extreme racism), other elements of hard Fascist thinking are alive and well in Germany - the moral distance from the mainstream endorsing extreme violence and child murder along ethnic lines if committed by people of a “good” ethnicity and traditional fascism is merelly the addition of “we’re a good ethnicity too”, since the moral “hard work” of justifying evil acts using the “superiority” of specific ethnicities over others is already done by the first part.
If the foundations of Fascism were simply given a new coat of paint and a new list of “good” etnicities, and then kept being used in Mainstream German politics, it’s hardly surprising that the overt Fascists quickly rose back up as soon as a large enough fraction of the locals was convince that they themselves were not being treated as a “good” ethnicity.
The difference in results between Scandinavia and the rest of the EU is very interesting. A well-working educational system is clearly the best weapon against fascism.
Participation in the EU election in Sweden was at a record low - just above 50%, which is amongst the worst in Europe. IMO that’s a serious warning flag.
That’s why the right hate universities. Well, that and the fact they unis will call out their BS.
A well-working educational system is clearly the best weapon against fascism.
That has never stopped fascism before. Ever.
It stops them from growing in the first place.
Fascism is always populated by ignorant morons. Always.
Fascism is always populated by ignorant morons. Always.
And the capitalists who funds fascism? Are they ignorant morons, too?
What about the media, which goes out of it’s way to downplay fascism? Are they morons as well?
What about the police, who always protects and enables fascism - what about them?
Your understanding of fascism is dangerously naive.
I think they assume “well working” means “is not a propaganda tool for the fascists.”
They probably don’t want to acknowledge that capturing schools, and what history and literature they are allowed to teach, is also the easiest way to create the Hitler Youth.
It also rather demonstrates that they are the best way to create the Anti-Hitler Youth.
That, and also that’s not how the English language works.
It also rather demonstrates that they are the best way to create the Anti-Hitler Youth.
As far as I’m aware, proper antifascism is not a subject taught at European schools. Today’s antifascists had to learn it the same way the interwar antifascists learned it - from scratch.
But it’s actually far, far worse than that. Liberal societies are utterly unwilling to confront what fascism really is nor the reasons fascism grows so easily in said liberal societies, and education cirriculums, of course, follow suit. This all makes it very easy for fascism to fester pretty much out in the open.
I won’t be relying on a formal education system to even slow fascism down… never mind stop it.
What is the proper anitfascism?
Definitely not the way the GDR did it. In the west it actually was simple, besides the obvious (teaching accurate history) boiling down to essentially Schopenhauer:
The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.
And it works! Germans take much pride in their individual capacity to complain about the nation.
Let go of your earthly desires and become Buddha.
Also, a well working social system with low corruption. But it’s a bit chicken and the egg sort of situation.
Indeed it is. And still our right wing populists are constantly screeching how the “general media is clearly and unfairly left-biased,” and “how the other side of the story remains untold”.
No shit, Sherlock. Nearly all journalists have college or university degrees, that’s what happens when you open your mind to the larger world.
It’s really not that simple. Look at Austria, for example. It’s also a lot about culture and society itself and how it developed. We are exporting nazis ffs. Shit that gets people thrown out of parties in Germany (like Krah) is just another Tuesday in Austria. And we have a great educational system. Of course with ways to improve.
Austrian Nazis? now I’ve heard everything!
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Krah just forbidden by his party to go campaigning (and he did campaign anyway)? As far as I know he’s still part of the AfD.
Krah wasn’t kicked out, they just didn’t want him to show up to events because of looks. Now that the election is over watch them fully embrace that treasonous, SS glorifying nazi back as their top candidate. Also I bet it will not take longer than two weeks until LePenne forgets that the AfD is more and more admiting to be fascist and welcomes them back to ID
You’re not up to date I guess. He will not be part of the Delegation. But he’s still a member of the AfD. (https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/krah-afd-europaparlament-fraktion-100.html)
You are right, I posted this before it hit the news that he was kicked out of the delegation. However, it wouldn’t surprise me if that changes again after the dust settles. He is still a party member, as you said.
EU élections are often used to show your frustrations with the current government. In Sweden and Finland the current government is right wing.
The only weapon against fascism
Without education and access to true information, democracy is meaningless.
It really depends, there’s plenty of ways to politicize an educational system and call it well-working. I think a more crucial distinction would be to teach people to be able to discern good sources from shit sources and how they can be manipulated without realizing it, and having taught across several semesters, if a good education system is simply not viable (i.e. poorer EU countries).
I love democracy you chuds
Nooooooooooooooo, Not like that!
lmao
TIL that not liking the election results = hating democracy
cope
Hey, Finland got pretty good results.
Same-ish for NL. GL/PvdA continues to be the biggest, FvD is gone, all the Christians and VVD are down a seat each, VOLT got a seat and D66 is up a seat.
Unfortunately PVV grew by six seats tho, sooo…
Denmark as well, I guess I know which direction I am fleeing towards, when fascism resurges here in Germany.
Ah, the Danish social democrats are pretty much in line with the AFD…
See I used to agree with this but I changed my mind when they banned Quran burnings. I think they just want to conserve the status quo while expending as little effort as possible. While almost all the time that comes down to fucking over minorites, I don’t think their aim is to willfully harm minorites as much as possible as it is with AFD. What difference might that make is up to you.
They basically took a look at Sweden and said “we’re not going to be that stupid”, then became maybe a bit overzealous, which is understandable because Denmark’s worst nightmare is to be in any way like Sweden. Things like furnishing social housing policies to nip ghettoisation in the bud, they went to almost Singaporean degrees there.
They’ve also been on the market liberal side, that is, Denmark is pretty much hire+fire with a great social net, not like many other European socdem systems “make it exceedingly hard to fire people, if workers still manage to be out of a job then beat them with random low-wage work until they relent”. Odd one out in many regards but policies being uncommon doesn’t make them not socdem. Other things to admire them for is their lack of NIMBY problems, their solution is simple: Give a fuck about people’s backyards and if their backyard is in the way, be understanding, apologetic, and generous when it comes to compensation, and transparent along the way. Transparent as in “We’re planning something in 15 years, have five different alternatives, two of which would affect your property, you might want to participate in the process”. Compare that with the German process which is a) make a plan, b) decide on that plan, c) inform people about the plan, d) get sued into oblivion by everyone, e) start over.
Don’t get me started on their wild boar policy, though. Danish hot-dogs are very fine just make sure to not have Danish sausages in them, no, cooked meat is not supposed to be red.
Tis the season…
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(anti)Falcon PUNCH!
Care to back that up with some data?
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People move yo. It’s what we’ve always done and will always continue to do. Wherever things are shit, people will move to places where they are better.
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I can’t find any figures showing an actual crime wave in Sweden (excepting a sharp spike in 2020 followed by a significant decline in 2021, but 2020 had other circumstances that contributes that are distinctly different from immigration). What are you talking about? Right-wing parties always talk about how much worse the crime rates are due to immigrants, but data never seems to appear which supports this.
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I can’t seem to access the first, so I will focus on the second.
1.) It is a study of Norway, not Sweden.
2.) The categories all kinda fluctuate, but the specific rates that are higher appear to be non-violent and the largest increase is traffic violations.
3.) This does not show an increase in crime rates overall as a result of immigration.
4.) Immigrant communities tend to be overpoliced which may explain increases in non-violent crime rates amongst the immigrant population (see this link detailing how Norwegian police purposefully focused on immigrants over the native population as an example of over-policing: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1362480619873347).
I likely missed details in this report as I do not read or speak Norwegian, but if I missed something vital, feel free to highlight it.
Another comment where I provided details on this matter
And now they won’t respond. You’ve done a through job debunking them.
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Even if crime wasn’t a problem, we should be allowed to protect our culture. Not every country needs to be like USA.
Culture always changes. The culture of your country has not been like this since the dawn of time. There is no good reason, why it should stay just the way it is right now, only because “that’s the way it always has been” in your memory. Also if the newly arriving people make all of your felloelw countrypeople abandon their old ways, maybe their was something wrong with those traditions to begin with. If you are only worried because the new people will bring their own culture and stick to it, that just adds to the culture and doesn’t take yours away.
And I’m not even sure why I have to defend myself.
I personally think one needs really good reasons if one chooses to defend xenophobic policies and puts millions of people under the general suspicion of spreading crime and violence while nearly all of them are just trying to get away from the war and violence in the countries where they are coming from.
1.) If you spend more time and resources looking for crime in one population than in another, then you are likely to find more crime in the scrutinized population.
2.) If it is about preserving a culture, there is no need to bring up crime rates.
You can have a look here (government site in Swedish) for crimes divided by category:
https://bra.se/statistik/statistik-om-brottstyper.html
Whilst the sum total of crimes has fallen, the amount of serious violent crime has significantly increased and in some categories to never-before seen levels in Swedish history (bombings for instance).
In these statistics I would highlight murders, organised crime, threats and attempts to influence society, threats and harassment, weapon crimes, sex crimes and vandalism.
The problem with that is that you are using facts and evidence. This already dismantled the entire position and now nothing can save this guy
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I am apologising for what Gražulis does in advance.
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