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  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    151 year ago

    I can describe those first three in three words:

    “I scam people”

    “I scam people”

    “I scam people”

    • CarbonScored [any]
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      171 year ago

      I mean, lots of automated capabilities are very real things, like running a hydroelectric plant.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        91 year ago

        See, I’d just describe my job as “running a hydroelectric plant” then. When people lead with the esoteric, abstract jargon instead of the concrete, that screams to me either they’re puffing up what they do to make it sound more impressive than it really is, or they’re a grifter. It’s like people that describe themselves as entrepreneurs; people who run a small business developing something they’re passionate about talk about making the product or service, people who talk about being an entrepreneur are about to sell you on a Ponzi scheme or MLM scam.

        • CarbonScored [any]
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          1 year ago

          I’d just describe my job as “running a hydroelectric plant” then

          Notably four words, you hack thonk

          I mean I absolutely agree on a fundamental level, but practically even workers who do real things (like help run a hydro plant) will have to use phrases like these at and around potential employers. It’s not being a grifter so much as speaking grifting language at grifters (employers/investors etc.). If someone says that kind of stuff to me as a non-work acquiantance, family, friend etc. then yeah it’s for sure nonsense.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      181 year ago

      I’d say that still works because ownership of a thing isn’t work. Saying “I own a coffee maker” says nothing about what I do for work. If their description doesn’t include describing labor then they’re clearly not working for a living.

  • RION [she/her]
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    681 year ago

    “I analyze sales”

    “I develop automation”

    There’s no saving Blockchain stuff fuck that

    “I sustainably harvest fish and other aquatic foodstuffs for human and/or animal consumption.”

    Bad news fisherbros

  • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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    381 year ago

    I’m pretty sure none of these are actually “bullshit jobs” as defined by Graeber, they just do things that Hexbear culture doesn’t like.

    Also, plenty of very real R&D & manufacturing jobs couldn’t be described in 3 words without being needlessly vague or reductive. There is in fact complexity in a modern industrial economy.

    • AernaLingus [any]
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      161 year ago

      It’s been a while since I read it, but there are two broad categories of bullshit jobs, right? In the first, the job itself is bullshit; you might barely have any day-to-day responsibilities and no one notices if you do any work or not, or perhaps the work itself doesn’t accomplish anything of value (I think an example of the latter was someone who prepared exhaustive compliance reports that no one actually read). The second category is a real job that contributes to a bullshit industry. So a network administrator is a real job, but doing IT work for an insurance company is in service of a bullshit industry that just shuffles money around. On the other hand, an engineer for Lockheed Martin, while undeniably doing harm, is not doing a bullshit job.

      Totally with you on complexity not implying bullshit, though.

      • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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        81 year ago

        I can see the appeal, but I suppose I don’t think about techbros that much so that’s not a metric I’m evaluating things on shrug-outta-hecks

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      201 year ago

      Yeah this is a little bit “if you don’t have a hard hat and a big hammer you aren’t proletarian,” which is the exact opposite of what we should be saying

    • D61 [any]
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      111 year ago

      I bang writers

      hears the sounds of the Volcell police and runs away

        • VOLCEL_POLICE [it/its]B
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          31 year ago

          The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

          نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

          volcel-police

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    361 year ago

    Bad because the vast majority of bullshit jobs are just:

    1. I write emails.
    2. I make graphs.
    3. I generate reports.
    4. I schedule meetings.
  • EllenKelly [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Ive never read this but the cover always shits me, we’re going to need comrades doing behind the scenes admin after the revolution

    • oh its a poster, my point remains, it ties into that lib attitude i see masquerading as principled anarchism, ya know why work? work less, its individualist garbage imo