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Fuck. This will probably also break castblock, which I use to auto mute AdSense ads and auto skip sponsorblock segments when watching on my Chromecast.
this will effectively kill the entire ASMR community.
nobody wants a loud ass ad injected into a soothing calming noise video. i’m just going to DL my favorite vids before this shit ruins them
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This fucking sucks, any hope that Youtube alternate frontends will still work?
It won’t be long before adblockers find another workaround
Sadly this approach is very likely impossible to block. It’s much more computationally intensive for google, which is why they haven’t done this in the past, but it is essentially impossible to block if done well.
I kind of wonder though…server side ad injection would work well for Twitch because the video player cant buffer more than a few seconds. But youtube? The player could buffer the entire video.
Yeah I’m super pessimistic about this. On the user end it will be damn near impossible to tell the difference between ad and video when it’s all the same stream or data from the same server connection and URL.
Would this make it so the ad is manually skippable just by clicking further ahead on the video?
i would assume they’ve spent decades working around that one. there’s a lot of ways they could potentially try to handle that, from locking down the video player controls to delaying your fast forward until after the ad to completely changing the embedded media player for the ad despite the video stream being continuous. if they still have the skip ads button like currently, i’d imagine that becomes literally just letting you jump ahead to the end. they already will have to account for the normal video playback stuff. all of this is the reason they tried to not do things this way until now. dealing with all of that is part of what makes it computationally intensive to shove in the ads on the fly.
Ad content recognition system maybe - if you see an ad, click a button and it goes into a database or if your browser sees an ad in the database it skips it
Even if it can’t be skipped I would prefer the stream be blacked out and muted rather than be subjected to psychological warfare
ok, i think that’s probably the only kind of thing that could do it at all. that sort of user-reported database is how some ad skippers already work. agreed on preferring nothing to psychological warfare.
i look forward to the bizarro-world arms race where google gets more and more sophisticated techniques to make 100000 unrecognizably different versions of the same dog food commercial that the databases won’t be able to recognize.
100000 unrecognizably different versions of the same dog food commercial that the databases won’t be able to recognize
Sounds like a potential task for some generative algorithm
AGI will spawn out of adversarial networks for ad recognition and disguise, calling it now.
This is also why it will hate us.
I would prefer the stream be blacked out and muted rather than be subjected to psychological warfare
I genuinely feel psychological distress from YouTube ads, wish I could sue for damages.
modern problems require modern solutions - let ai watch adds
I just need it to mute and unmute it. Maybe also put black mask over video.
I know I’m encroaching on very dangerous bootlicker terrain here, but it’s obvious that a service like YouTube, that lets you upload and watch as many videos as you want and let’s users monetize their videos to such a degree that a non-insignificant number of people can live off of it, needs to make money somehow. If you want to see what a service that doesn’t have ads look like, look at Vimeo, where creators pay out of the ass to upload any videos at all. And unlike most services YouTube does actually give you an option to opt out of ads. YouTube Premium might be too expensive, but 55% of that does actually go to the video creators. I’ll take that a million times over shit like Facebook or tiktok that doesn’t give you that option at all.
Use ad blockers, pirate all media, steal shit from the supermarket, it’s all cool and correct to do so, but to pretend like this is some new extra greedy move is just ridiculous.
you’re right, 1) within the confines of capitalism, 2) assuming YouTube is operating like a utility, and 3) not worrying about what they do with their half of the revenue. Really, YouTube should be operated by the state at a loss and as a utility, but yeah, as a market product, it does sorta make sense that they have to charge for it and get really nasty as soon as people don’t wanna pay.
The only state I’d trust to run YouTube would be North Korea
Every video will be required to have kim jong il. Also, it will be forbidden to have kim jong il in your video
in agreement with you, except under communism there will be no need for youtube (as it would be nothing but a giant money and technologyhole), as we’ll just have communal television, communal cinemas, communal theaters and communal video stores instead.
communal television, communal cinemas, communal theaters and communal video stores
In which one of these will four hour video essays be found
all of them? except they’ll actually be good. they did actually make them decades before the internet was even invented.
Don’t think this would pair well with cleaning my bathroom or folding laundry
under communism there will be no need for youtube … as we’ll just have communal television, communal cinemas, communal theaters and communal video stores instead
the most valuable thing about YouTube is the amount of tutorials on there, and watching tutorials is generally a solitary activity
Tutorials are better in text form anyway. Also once again, not like “how to” videos weren’t made in abundance during the video boom
and communal video stores
I thought communism was supposed to improve things?
Can we keep the People’s Game Grumps though? I need my slop
there will be local chapters where you and your friends can be the game grumps and people will watch you live on stage playing videogames and be delighted by your live commentary
I already make enough poopy jokes to be an Aren Hansen impersonator
Who will be my Danny though?
Ads are the memetic equivalent of toxic waste. It’s bad enough they’re allowed to exist at all, but the notion that they should be permitted to be dumped directly into personal computers is obscene and the idea that it’s somehow wrong to prevent this from happening is laughable.
If google wishes to display ads they may do so passively on their own property, and any effort to invade my personal space and mind with this hazardous waste must be both condemned and thwarted by any means necessary.
Obviously ads are bad for the soul and the mind, but please don’t be ridiculous, it’s very easy to simply not go on YouTube (or if you can’t help yourself pay the 13 bucks for premium). It’s not like every other aspect of human life and actual public space hasn’t been invaded by ads to a much bigger degree, where companies do ostensibly only “passively display ads on their property”. Do you walk around ripping off ads from billboards or painting over ads in subway stations?
Oh fuck off. Ads are literal cancer and should be blocked and destroyed every way possible.
Do you walk around ripping off ads from billboards or painting over ads in subway stations?
Goddamn that sounds dope as fuck, I should start doing this
Goddamn that sounds dope as fuck, I should start doing this
Yeah do it because that’d be actual praxis instead of bitching about how you can’t watch shitty youtube videos without ads
but to pretend like this is some new extra greedy move is just ridiculous.
I disagree. Google ran Youtube at a massive loss for many many years and effectively killed all competition in doing so. If Youtube had to play by the same rules as everybody not owned by Google the video streaming world would probably be very different today. Video streaming has always been extremely expensive. Youtube has just been subsidized by infinite money from Google Search. They can turn on the ads now because there’s no competition.
YouTube was never able to dominate the live-streaming market though, mostly because people keep committing murders on livestreams, I think Facebook leads the pack in murders but I’m not sure. YouTube really needs to up its murders per million users metrics if they have a chance of ever overtaking twitch.
when i say “video streaming” i mean sites like youtube where you upload a video and people stream it (rather than download it)
Very similar market same with movie and tv streaming and it’s weird YouTube wasn’t able to monopolize those markets either when their parent company google was able to monopolize so much of its shared market. Google has far less competitors than YouTube.
but it’s obvious that a service like YouTube, that lets you upload and watch as many videos as you want
Google owns enough infrastructure that the actual cost is much lower than you would expect (hence the significant barriers to entry for any competitors).
I genuinely doubt running a service that allows people to upload ~270.000 hours of videos a day and that makes those videos available almost instantly is cheap, or that they’d own the infrastructure to do so regardless of whether they own YouTube or not.
Nooooo! I hate how Twitch does that
Fuck, so that’s why my ad blockers don’t work on Twitch?
I spent over an hour trying to dial in NoScript and uBlock settings to get the ads to fuck off, and now I just quit Twitch altogether
Huh, mine still works. Weird. Do you use Firefox?
Yeah, I dunno what’s going on with it. Maybe I’m just setting things wrong but I still get obnoxious pre-roll ads for Twitch
I was informed last night one ofmy favorite Gachimuchi channels got nuked because Billy ass was too hot for YT. It isn’t getting better. The enshittification continues to find new levels to torture us with.
God dammit. I just got a raspberry pi to deal with this in the home. The so called future sucks.
Google won’t stop the psychological warfare until everybody is that guy from Black Mirror sitting in a cell surrounded by screens with unblockable ads
Anyone who’s using adblock plus and getting the YT message, I found a temporary workaround. Basically open it in an extra tab (not active/current tab) and let it sit for approximately the duration of two advertisements (50s) then switch to that tab. 5/5 success rate so far.
I will stop watching youtube if i cant block ads
It’s an endless arms race, not an infallible solution. There’ll be another addon to block server side infected ads too.
I can imagine some third party displays with ad detecting and blocking software built-in, this will of course be illegal
This will destroy hextube
