Republicans are full of hate and lies.
He thought it could have been a chance to hear the voice of the marginalized. He apparently hasn’t heard a trump interview or debatr before.
the reporting on this could be better which sucks because it’s obvious it’s going to be memeified for months now
was this actually a church sponsored event or was it just being hosted in the building as a venue?
not coming at this with any assumptions or narratives i just wish there was more reliable original data than some twitter links i can’t look at without an account :/
The pastor agreed to it after being contacted by the trump campaign. here with the pastor’s explanation
ugh bless you thanks so much
edit, my take: wow that pastor seems like an upstanding guy and i would be nervous for his decision if i didn’t have hindsight and see it played out in a way that clearly only showed his guest’s hypocrisy.
It’s still pretty damned telling no black people came to their own church to hear him talk.
He said his parishioners literally laughed in his face when he asked them to come.
It’s like where’s Waldo but I think I see three.
Well, I can see many people in there who are not perfect representatives of the Arian Race (people whose hair is not blond enough or whose eyes are brown rather than blue), so they should be counted as black, thus making this a mixed race audience, most of which are black.
/s
I mean just because the church is black - it might have be a satanist church and that’s why they painted it black - doesn’t mean that the people inside have to be black.
I am wondering if the parish at this church is majority white normally anyway. I had a friend in high school whose family went to the
evangelicalbaptist church in town and they were white. He invited me one time, and I was surprised that there was only about 3 black people in attendance. I expected it to be mostly black people because that’s how this denomination has been presented and stereotyped in media.E: wrong name.
What media? There are non-denominational evangelical churches that are predominantly * one race, some are a fair mix.
Also, what is up with the red shirt guy?
What media?
Like… Anything? TV, movies, etc. And my dumbass was thinking baptist. IDK how I got those names mixed up 🤦♂️. The kind of church with a big-ass choir and does a lot of high energy singing.
The kind of church with a big-ass choir and does a lot of high energy singing
Could be any, in a large enough area. AME Zionist, Baptist, Holiness, Methodist, noon-denom, pick one. I didn’t šay Catholic because I’ve never visited a mostly black Catholic Church, but I went to a Catholic Church with a black priest. But high energy singing, though.
I was also very confused reading your previous comment, because of all the different names for black churches, “evangelical” is not a word I’d pick to describe them.
Also, I think it’s important to clarify that the various black “baptist” denominations are very much not the same thing as “Southern Baptist”!
Maybe the word you were looking for was something like “gospel.”
Gospel! That’s the one. Holy shit my mind is mush today.
You’re thinking of Pentecostal churches. Although plenty of white ones do exist.
I usually stereotype Pentecostals as being black 😂 When white people try to be Pentecostal, it usually ends up cringe.
If you look at the photos of the church at other times, you see a whopping TWO white people … total … and it appears they’re with their spouses and mixed race kiddos.
Is that lincoln in the back there?
Source on this?
Wait is this real or a meme
Yes.
I’m doubt the church is real, because I got no reports of Trump instantly burning to ash the moment he set foot in it.
The church is definitely real. God on the other hand…
So you want god to do the work, that you’re supposed to do? Do we live in a democracy or a theocracy?
If the USA is a country that is a democracy, can be answered only by a tentative yes for now. There are too many things wrong with the voting system and disenfranchisement and systemic failures around court appointments for a definitive yes.
Apart from that, we live in a world where gods don’t exist, but not everyone agrees on that.
Did you reply to the wrong person? Your response to my comment implying that God doesn’t exist makes no sense.
It’s meant for both of these statements. Do we expect god to turn trump into ash or is it our job to build a good society?
“God helps those who help themselves”
“God works through us”
“God chooses imperfect vessels.”
Sorry officer it wasn’t me who threw gasoline on Trump and lit him on fire. God just works in mysterious ways, ya know?
"God gave me a high powered sniper crossbow for a reason, officer. I just made sure His Will was done by executing 5 obviously criminal SCOTUS “justices.”
First quote is unbiblical
The implication of GP is that it’s our job to turn Trump to ash (and I think that’s the intended interpretation).
Isn’t it normal etiquette to take off the hat in a church?
not really
Traditionally, men should remove their hats during prayers or hymns, whereas women might choose to keep their decorative hats on. However, this practice can vary greatly depending on the denomination and local customs. Observing other attendees and being aware of the norms can help you navigate this aspect with grace. src
given this wasn’t even a service, but just using the space as a venue, i will say that the hats are the least disgusting thing happening in the image
Not if you worship a false-idol of a man.
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
We don’t need to see the MAGA mark on their forehead to know its there. The hat on top of it already says MAGA.
99% of “normal etiquette” is just a bunch of outdated rules that make no sense. If even the “return to tradition” crowd is starting to feel comfortable wearing hats to church, it may be a sign that nature is healing.
I still see the tradition of men not wearing hats in church. However the women having to wear hats thing is gradually fading. Basically everyone who does it chooses to as a form of obedience
None of the people wearing a hat in that picture would be able to spell etiquette without a K. They love their Ks.
I like a good multilayered burn
Depends on what’s being burned, and in whose lawn…
Bro they already took off their white hoods in the house of God. Give them a break.
Normal for them. His staff used to sit with their bare feet on the couches in the oval office.
I have no love for his staff, but why is sitting on a couch with your shoes off bad, especially in a high-stress environment?
Maybe because it makes your couch smell like feet? I honestly don’t understand etiquette either.
That would be a different couch from the ones I’ve ever owned.
Sitting sideways on a couch reading a book is quite comfortable and plenty of people (myself included) don’t wear shoes or socks at home, especially in the summer.
Context. I think some etiquette is ok. An overemphasis on it is not. E.g. while you and I don’t care about it in our own homes, I wouldn’t encourage it where a level of decorum is required, and the oval office is one such place. How would they feel if Lavrov did the same? If they can’t respect the office they claim to hold dear, why should others?
Funny if you to believe any of these clowns have seriously been in a church before.
“In the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion.”
Problem is that if you even read the Gospel of Luke or even Matthew alone, it basically already contradicts a lot of Trumpian rhetoric
This has never stopped anyone, in the contrary, religion demands you to go against evidence and just believe. See https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John.20.29&version=NIV
Nice way to cherrypick the verse and remove context 🤦
It’s part of a wider account of Thomas literally seeing the risen Christ in front of him and still not believing. So Thomas insists that he touches His wounds. And this is simply Jesus’ response blessing him who believes what he saw with evidence, but also blessing those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ.
So He blessed two groups of believers: Those who critically investigate the resurrection narrative, and those who didn’t feel the need to.
I, personally, fit into the former category.
Nice way of accusing me of removing context while doing it yourself.
Assuming that what is written is true - and not just a folk tale like the Little Red Riding Hood, which is more probable - and that this specific God exists and became his own son and then died and got resurrected.
If we take into account the context that this text has been written several hundreds of years after it happened, anyone alive back then and also today can *only* be one of those who believe without seeing, because we can’t go back in time to experience it ourselves like Thomas or the other apostles did.
So, we can’t be the one “who believes what he saw with evidence”. And we can only be “those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ”. And this is one of the fundamentals of any religion, but especially Christianity where you have to believe in Christ otherwise you will go to hell.
There is also the subtle nuance that if there is evidence then you don’t need to believe, you just know.
With this context, at least I come to the conclusion that “religion demands you to go against evidence and just believe”, otherwise you will go to hell, which nobody wants.
The Gospel of John was written 40-70 years after the resurrection of Jesus.
Why?
Some of the worst people I’ve ever known were from when I had to go.
Trump people only “identify as religious” they aren’t the terrible people that traditional attend and hate. Lol I’m sure there is a slight overlap in the Venn Diagram.
I live in the Bible belt and can tell you: the evangelical megachurches are chock full of Christian nationalists.
Sure, there are factions in the GOP that don’t really care about religion , but the SCOTUS wouldn’t have overturned Roe if the hardcore religious zealots didn’t work for decades to get it done.
The protesters at abortion clinics were bussed there by the churches a lot of the time; they’re not outliers here. They are the engine that runs the party here in Texas. They have all kinds of excuses as to why Trump is doing God’s will despite being a terrible human being.
Ironically though, megachurches are heavily frowned upon in Christian discourse spaces as basically being incredibly lukewarm
That’s one wall I wish we could build just separate all those nutjobs
Fellow Bible belt dweller. Can confirm.
Slight overlap?
It’s probably practically a circle.
There’s no hate like Christian love.
Best video I could find. Absolutely not sure about the source. I don’t have Instagram so I can’t verify anything but looks legit.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8QHQVuMW2b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
This is the best possible outcome we can hope for considering his last visit to a church… Which isn’t saying much. 100% less teargas this time!
Oh, wrong kind of black church, I was trying to figure if he was going to a branch of the satanic temple or what was going on here…
The Satanic Temple come off as solid Democrats if not anarchocommunists or something. If it was a Satanic house of worship, it could possibly be the Church Of Satan (who, at least in Anton LaVey’s time, were dominance-oriented Ayn Rand assholes philosophically indistinguishable from today’s Republican Christianity), or if they’ve mellowed in their old age, the Order of Nine Angles (who, conveniently, are also neo-Nazis).
The Satanic Temple stands against pretty much everything Trump and his cultists stand for, as well as the big money Democrat establishment.
Definitely not ancoms.
Yeah, I forget there are two distinct terms for very different orgs, just more a whimsical thought of some goth cathedral and black sacraments thing.
