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That doesn’t seem weird to me. Honestly it seems weird that it’s that active. I would’ve expected a sharper, quicker decline. Retaining active users is hard.
Am I being retained?!??
Sigh… You’re free to go sir. Have a nice evening Mr sovereign user.
Exactly. Users who are involved in extremely niche communities will probably not find a place on Lemmy/Kbin yet. In 2008, reddit was the same. The politics subreddit only had 50,000 subscribers.
It’s all about momentum. The more users we have, the more engagement in niche communities, the more it’ll attract and retain users.
And loads of people hear the buzz, try it out and leave when they grow bored. I think the reason for the downward spike not being worse is that the threshold to take part in Lemmy communities is higher than many social media sites, and invested time registering makes people more likely to stay.
Just to chime in, please correct me if I’m wrong, but Lemmy only counts activity as someone who’s posting or commenting (citation needed), so as more people go back to their old ways of lurking, activity will drop as browsing isn’t counted as activity
That is true.
Us lurkers are still here (hopefully) but it’s easy to go back to the ways of scrolling without engaging
Why I’m encouraging anyone who will listen to participate in their fledgling niche communities here. Even if it’s just a little bit.
One can simply lurk on the niche subreddits. Growing fediverse communities need active participation.
Lemmy is a much closer analog to Reddit than Mastodon is for Twitter. While Mastodon has similar basic functionality to Twitter, it lacks a lot of the features that make it easy to find new content and new people to follow.
Pair that with some very polished third-party mobile reddit apps with large, loyal followings transitioning to Lemmy and it became way easier to abandon reddit for Lemmy than it was to leave Twitter for Mastodon. I’m a huge open source supporter, but the average user doesn’t care about FOSS or open source software. They want something that looks nice and just works.
I got super frustrated with Mastodon because of this. I’ve tried a couple of instances with no luck. And hilariously, I have to think that the furry folks are either having the same problem finding a home, or they are stalking me, because everywhere I move, shortly after, a ton of furries appear and do introductions. Furry stuff is not my thing, but I can appreciate how they might have a hard time finding a good place to settle.
the average user doesn’t care about FOSS or open source software. They want something that looks nice and just works.
Truer words were never said.
Dude I was away on vacation chill. :-)
To be expected. I like it but it’s still quite an immature platform overall. There’s lots to be done to make it easier for an average user.
The novelty has worn off. Contributions are going to fall to the baseline for this platform. Question is, is the Lemmy space going to expand from that point?
I’m just gonna leave this post here, for statistics.
Joined Lemmy today and find it kinda refreshing and reminding me of the old days when web was small yet varied.
Also really dig the web interface, especially the vaporwave-light theme :D
Didn’t they purge a shit ton of bots recently? Those could account for the decline.
There is a continuous decrease in number. That incident should be seen as a reverse spike.
Why would it be a spike if they’re timed to go off and/or they work by having conversations with people?
I was an early Reddit adopter and can remember how lonely it felt back then. It took years but it got better in ways and worse in others. I believe in Lemmy because it isn’t susceptible to the pressures of a company trying to be profitable. Sure it’ll have its own challenges but I’ve personally had enough of idiot CEOs running social websites into the ground.
A big issue was loosing all the .ml lemmy instances. I lost mine and had to create a new account. lemmy.ml is the only one that’s still up.
I just swap between lemmy.world and lemm.ee whenever one of them goes down. They’re the first two options on the app I use lol
A good part of that can be explained by the low time resolution of the graph. 1 month.
Let’s assume 1 month ago, 100 new people signed up. Let’s say 20 of those made a comment or post, which is the requirement to be counted as an active user.
Many of those 100 didn’t stay for various reasons. Of the 20 ‘active’ users, only 15 were coming back the next day.
But the graph still counts 20 active users for a whole month. Only 1 month after a user last commented or posted, this user is no longer counted as ‘active’. So now we see a drop of -5 (all numbers made up).
I think it’s perfectly normal that not everyone who signs up makes a post or comment. And that not everyone who tries out something new will stick around the next day, or the next week.
With a large number of new signups, which we had in the last months, it can be expected that another a large number is only active for a short time. Due to the low resolution, we probably see what happened 1 month ago.
Some dropoff after initial hype is normal. Now we just continue as usual until reddit pisses people off again.
People on vacation in July and august too maybe ? Might have a slight rebound later
No worries, Lemmy is alive. Lemmy and Fediverse in general is better to grow organically.
Yeah this was always going to happen after a big rush. On any website a certain % of users that sign up won’t like it and will move on. If you have a steady influx of users, you wouldn’t notice it, but because of lemmys explosive growth due to reddit shitting its pants, then just like we saw a tonne of people leave at once, were now seeing a tonne of people leave at once, and now that that explosive user growth is normalising, for a short time we will see an overall decline in users until the amount of leavers normalises as well.
If were still losing people in a month, then we should be worried.
I think that app choice makes a difference, too. I would guess that most people on mobile picked one or two apps to try, and if their picks weren’t great (or the user was too impatient to wait for improvements) they called the whole experience shitty and bailed. Those of us committed to the move hung on and waited for our apps to get better.
In my case, I grabbed every ios app I could find and tried them all. Some were not so good, some were good and improving at a lightning rate. Living through those growing pains is worth it to me, especially when the improvements are crazy fast. I’m mostly using Memmy now, and I’m really happy with it. I only have one tiny, unimportant issue with it involving text selection, but it’s nothing compared to how good they’ve made this app so quickly. Memmy is a large part of why I stick around.
I tried only Jerboa and that’s what I stuck with. It loads fast and has every feature I want. Compare that to the official Reddit app, which is a slog on even high end devices. Seriously, what are they doing that it loads SO SLOW?
If you have the opportunity now, download Sync for reddit. It’s out now and it’s a wonderful experience!
EDIT: Sync for Lemmy
Is it an unofficial reddit client? How are they getting around the API prices? Webscraping?
I’m sorry, I meant Sync for Lemmy. Omg!
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