“Batshit conspiracy theories…not just for the far right anymore!”
Not that I wanted the debate to go the way it did
Wow, and here I thought he was an old guy with a stutter getting flustered while a fascist fuckwad spewed inane garbage.
Fantasy is like rocknroll. It will never die nor reinvent itself
I’ve said it many times, I will say it again: IT WAS THOSE DAMN REPTILLIANZ
Why is this shocking? Havana Syndrome is blatantly real.
Seems possible.
Havana Syndrome is complicated and not well understood. It doesn’t happen randomly though. The best working theory was that it happened due to phones or other similar on-ear devices. It’s not space lasers or random shit like that
What is your proof that it’s not space lasers?
Hi. Jew here. We use our space lasers to start forest fires like Marjorie Taylor-Greene told you. Do keep up.
I’ve never listened to Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
Although I know there are racist conspiracy theories, it doesn’t mean all conspiracy theories are racist.
You have to get past the racism and flat-earthers to get to the REAL good conspiracy theories. Some of them end of being false, but some seem to be true. Either way they become more interesting.
Any Havanna Syndrome inflicted on Biden would likely be done by Russia and would be unrelated to Jewish people. Russia is the one with the most to gain from Biden losing, especially since the conspiracy theory is Trump is a Russian agent.
You do know that’s where the idea of space lasers comes from, right? She said Jews use them to start forest fires.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic and joking and didn’t realize the phrase was highly connected recently with a right-wing racist piece of trash. I try to ignore what she says because she’s such an idiot and so no, I didn’t get it.
Whats your source on the phones/ear pieces? Ive read its directed microwaves most likely
Man, I swear I heard it. Probably on NPR. I can’t find it per se but I did find that it could come from devices concealed inside standard electronics, so I think a phone would make sense.
I’m sure the three brain surgeries had nothing to do with it. Must be fucking energy weapons.
Edit: Not sure why people are downvoting me. He had multiple brain aneurysms. That causes permanent damage, and rapidly progresses dementia related diseases.
And yet this is still many orders of magnitude more sane than thinking Donald Trump is fit to be president.
When people are, they notice.
Biden was exhausted and prepared to follow a debate training regimen that just left him confused. He’s a senior, not an athlete you can train up spryly, he was accustomed to debate in one way and told and exhausted into debating in a way he was not used to.
Yep, absolutely. It couldn’t possibly be that he’s an octogenarian with a known speech impediment, had to be directed energy weapons.
Also, allegedly had a cold and probably got flustered after the first time he tripped on his words. And inexplicably kept trying to recite various metrics from memory.
Didn’t he have a stutter when younger?
He’s always had it. But it was probably easier to manage it when he was younger.
People really underestimate how bad a cold can be. When I’m sick, it’s so hard to function mentally that I can barely do my job.
I believe he was sick, and I believe this was just a case of unfortunate timing. What matters in politics is perception, though, and the perception isn’t good.
I’ll float the possibility that he took a slug of Nyquil™ before the debate, but forgot to chase it with a Red Bull™.
known speech impediment
He had a childhood speech impediment. Overcoming those requires a concentrated effort, which we become less able to handle as we age.
Here’s Biden in 2008
https://youtu.be/eOombKZSsj4?si=hYe3kh-wkM2iemtY&t=1424
Here he is in 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxOldhJ7Sw
In a way what’s happening now is a speech impediment, but it’s re-emerging as he loses ability in the same parts of the brain that handle critical thinking due to the normal effects of aging.
I’m just tired of so many people writing this stuff off. Like, it took 2 minutes to find those videos and show he hasn’t always been like this. He just couldn’t win until the only other option was trump. Even tho he was a much better candidate back then.
Quick edit:
Ironically something like the Havana weapon would actually cause this shit, it’s incredibly unlikely someone used it on Biden for the debate…
But it’s fucking 2024 y’all, who knows what’s real anymore I guess.
This explains everything, I thought he was being mind-controlled by the NWO or something…
While Havana Syndrome is real, to my knowledge it’s not that refined. It should have impacted everyone in the room, Trump and the moderators included.
The known reports of the syndrome occupied entire floors of buildings. The idea that someone could use it and just target one guy is a little out there.
If he had some metal in him, that could make him more perceptive of microwaves. Dark Brandon T-100 confirmed?
Is Havana Syndrome real? I thought there was like 0 evidence for it and it being a form of hysteria.
The work done on it has been fascinating. You’d think if it were simple hysteria there would be outbreaks among the civilian population, but it’s always government employees.
Another source for those interested:
If we’re going to go all conspiratorial, here’s my theory:
Both campaigns are dealing with old men with diminished faculties.
There’s some drug cocktail(s) that both campaigns have been using to pep the doddering old farts up for public appearances.
If you’ll remember, very shortly before the debate, the accusation that “Biden’s on drugs” made the rounds, and Trump made some noises about demanding a drug test.
For some reason - possibly fear, possibly determination in the face of a challenge, possibly a subtle communication that the Trump campaign had some hard evidence they would, if pushed, release publicly - that led to the Biden team withholding his customary drug cocktail.
Trump, meanwhile, was dosed to the eyeballs.
And that was the contrast we saw - Trump was on drugs, while Biden, for whatever reason, for that night alone, was not.
Remember - for the Republicans broadly and especially for Trump, every accusation is a confession.
every accusation is a confession.
This is all I could think of when Trump said Democrats would use every avenue both legal and illegal to overturn election results.
I sincerely think it’s broadly accurate - that, for the Republicans and especially for Trump, (most) every accusation is a confession.
There’s a simple psychological element to it, most often illustrated by moralists who rail against perversion of one form or another, only to be revealed to be perverts.
There’s another aspect to it though, and I think this is more often the case with Trump specifically - it’s a way to proactively undermine someone else’s accusation against you. If you can get your accusation out there first, then they end up sounding sort of like a child saying, “I know you are but what am I?”
Or reactively. See the effort to impeach Biden lol
That’s what probably happened.
I mean yeah Trump’s WH had a pharmacy handing out free drugs like fuckin Pablo Escobar.
And Obama hired that Doc while Biden was VP…
He wasn’t an upstanding doctor up till Trump took office, then suddenly Pablo Escobar
If I could, I’d give him mine. He’s way more important than me.
Lol.
You know he’s not going to be the next president or even the nominee right?
When he becomes the nominee, what will you do?
I don’t need to worry about that, but I have standing wagers with several people here on lemmy and elsewhere that Biden both:
a) wont be the nominee,
and
b) wont be the next president.
So I’d have to pay up? But I’m not worried about that in the slightest at this point (I got a bit excited after his ‘decent’ state of the Union back in March that he might flip on Gaza, but no, he dug his grave further).
Too many other seats are on the line to run Biden.
I took several bets where I was able to get anything from 10:1 or 20:1 in a parlay for a) and b) back in April. I’m confident enough now to do even money if there is no time line associated with it (other than obvious ones like the convention). All in all I probably have about a couple hundred on the line right now? Its all on these two outcomes.
I’ll take 10:1 that Biden isn’t the nominee at the end of this week if you are willing to offer it, and even money that he isn’t the nominee (no timeline) or president. I’m also interested in parlays if you have any you want to propose.
I was meaning in the sense of would you vote for him? Would you support him?
He has to be capable of winning to be worth supporting.
In the past 500 days, at no point had Biden demonstrated any evidence that he can win the election. He didn’t campaign as a two term president in 2020, he specifically acknowledged he would only do one term. His polling has been abysmal, almost all of his term, when we know that he already suffers from a 12 point polling deficit on Trump (Biden needs to be beating Trump by 12 to beat him, statistically). His key policies are deeply, the ones that will define him as president, specifically Gaza and the border, are deeply unpopular with the key demographics he needs to win, specifically middle eastern voters in the upper Midwest and any one under 40.
So this all is, and always has been, on Biden, to do better on. He’s not a candidate that you can support with these outstanding issues because he can’t win an election with them. Supporting him inspire of those issues does nothing to change the fact that he can’t win. Infact, the blue maga blind support (orange man worse, blue no matter who, etc…) has significantly harmed our ability to beat Trump because it prevented any pressure being placed on Biden to become a better candidate.
Some one needing to earn your vote in a primary season is bigger than just getting your issues addressed. It’s about carving a candidate into someone popular enough to win an election. That’s how Biden won in 2020. He had to go caress and finesse various voting blocks into supporting him by becoming a candidate and having a platform they could get behind. And it worked. He won that election by stepping left and effectively cloning the entire progressive/ Bernie platform.
Pretending this guy can win is idiotic and doesn’t work. If for whatever reason we still end up with Biden as candidate, we’re going to lose this election. And it’s going to be because of the blue no matter who/ Blue maga crowd if we do lose. It’s an intentional ignorance they’ve maintained about how electoralism and elections work in an effort to shield an unelectable candidate from criticism, and lemmy.world, the news and politics C’s and their associated mods, are particularly rife with it. If we run Biden inspire of his obvious shortcoming which are frankly insurmountable at this point, I put three blame solely in those who made a concerted effort to lie/disguise/ and prevent discussion about his shortcomings as a candidate.
Blah blah blah, answer the question please. You talk like a politician. Would you support him?
I don’t buy it in this particular case, but “directed energy” can do some funky things: https://youtu.be/J-SH18dtBlY?si=40dOJbu4O9ZWWCsZ
(No, it’s not a conspiracy theory video or any of that crap. Benn Jordan is a musician that likes all kinds of funky sound things.)
That’s exactly what I thought of when I saw this. Not saying it’s what happened but remembered this video
