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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.
Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.
You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue
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it’s for the children!
They said as they erode more freedom/privacy for the general population.
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I haven’t read enough to know if this is a good thing or not.
But goddamn, I would hate having a 12 year old right now knowing how much terrible, awful shit is out there these days.
I mean there’s a ton of accounts like Andrew Tate that are aimed at getting these kids on a terrible thought path while they’re still kids.
I would hate to have my theoretical child reading all of the terrible bullshit that’s out there with no filter.
I’m so much more worried about my future kids’ access to toxic alpha male shit and fascist propaganda than I am about porn.
Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.
…invade everyone’s privacy instead.
Keep people safe … by encasing them in packing foam and feeding them through IV tubes!
Everyone knows freedom is anti safety. And safety’s number 1!
Surely this will work.
Wait…I want to be “Secretario de Pornabilidad Social” or “Secretary or Social Probability”
I imagine my self going through all the SSN… Sexual Super Numbers to manage access and report usage.
1335346755 watched 6 hours per day of mostly vanilla doggy.
2356544677 more doggie
More doggie… doggie again. But every now and then… 1257678965534 watched 72 consecutive hours of BDSM where the sub faces downward into a hole in the floor where a camera…then the last does the same and the video cuts to another similar one. We must report this immediately to the right authority!
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On behalf of teen me and adult me, fuck off
Aren’t teens adults?
To libertarians, yes.
Depends on legislature.
18 year olds and above are considered basically adults in terms of rights in a lot of countries. Technically, they are teenagers, if we refer to the age group 10 to 19 as teens. It’s obvious though that everyone below that “adult-age” limit is not considered an adult.
Usually I think teens are 13+
In Judaism that’s an adult. Also people that age can produce children. I don’t know about other cultures.
Is there any definition of teen which doesn’t start at 13?
This is the one. Right here, officer.
Aren’t hotdogs hamburgers?
Drake uses an owl for his logo. Are you Drake?
Kids can torrent my dude. Been doing it since I was like 13, and that’s only because before that I was using limewire, then frostwire, then bearshare, then I found torrents because TPB took over. I’ve been pirating since I was like 9.
That is to say: This dumb ass bullshit isn’t even going to work.
I come from a state that has officially mandated that porn websites must verify your age to use them for years. There were many websites that just didn’t give a fuck. X videos in particular. They do now require you to hit a button saying “I’m 18” to process, but I think my point stands.
These laws do nothing, really.
The “I’m 18/21” button on websites has been around since I was a kid in the 90s, used to have to input the “actual” date too so I was born 01/01/1970 according to a lot of now defunct porn sites lol. Also still in use on tobacco, vape, alcohol, and gun websites as well.
But yeah as I am am example of, lying is always possible lol. I guess this passport or the ID thing in some states is supposed to hinder that, but torrent sites throw a wrench into any censorship efforts and they’re already illegal, they won’t play ball with the ID bullshit, ever.
former average dc++ enjoyer here, there’s like 6 of us
There’s half a dozens of us!
Please, I’ve been pirating on C64 before I even got the concept of pirating.
Oohhh someone was born earlier and that makes them the coolest guy ever! “Please” lol.
Jerk-off motion/eye-roll combo.
Umm, didn’t mean to deride you, sorry that I wasn’t clear enough about that, I should’ve been more precise. What I meant to say was that I was pirating before I knew what pirating even meant. I was not old enough at the time and it was in the good old times of C64 when people weren’t generally aware of piracy.
The “please” at the beginning of a statement (not a question) like that is typically used to patronize or condescend, usually only used when being hostile or dismissive. If English isn’t your first language I can understand the misunderstanding.
I see Spain wants ALL of my money. Sucks for them I don’t live there and even if I did, I’m better at Internet than their legislators.
It will be fun for one unashamed porn addicted user to keep making so many requests to this service that they break it.
“Javier, it’s been 30 minutes since your last credit application.”
“MORE CREDITS. CAN’T TALK.”
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How can you be against porn? It’s neither good or bad, it exists and I basically don’t watch it, but I recognize that others do, why is that a problem that needs solving? To be clear, I’m reading your response as against porn in all forms and for all audiences based on your wording, is that what you mean?
They’re probably against the exploitation associated with it. I’d compare it to being against diamonds due to the bloody conflicts associated with them.
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It seems pretty clear that advocates for and against porn/prostitution should all want it to be legalised and regulated so that proper controls and oversight can be put in place. Driving porn/prostitution in to the hands of criminal enterprise guarantees that there is no safety or standard of behaviour when it comes to these industries, much like the failing war on drugs.
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Okay, well tell Portugal that then, considering the dramatic social shift after decriminalising and treating drug addiction as a health issue.
Obviously don’t do it like America, because that’s the same rule with most things.
Sounds like we agree then, you did say that there is no point in legalising it. If that was the combined concept of both legalising it and giving it to corps to handle being bad, then sure, we agree.
I paid rent using a webcam years ago, and I am not sure that your points really apply to all porn/sex-work. I am not denying that it doesn’t apply to some of it though.
Men paid me to chat with them, let them watch me jerk off, and sometimes watch them watch me jerk off. I was probably going to jerk off anyway, and knowing what I was so attractive that people would pay me to see me do it was a turn on.
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Yet, you only streamed because you needed to pay rent, or didn’t you?
It’s pretty fun to having guys go on and on about how big/suckable your dick is and how much they want you to fuck them. If I was single I’d probably do it again, even without being paid.
Also, I did not propose immediately anything that would threaten the activity in the way you practiced it
When you responded to @[email protected], you said that you were against all porn.
To be clear, I’m reading your response as against porn in all forms and for all audiences based on your wording, is that what you mean?
Yes.
I was showing one of the many examples of being in the sex industry, without any abuse and without it being “paid rape” as you put it. You didn’t say “some”, “a lot”, or even “most”. You simply generalized all sex work as harmful to the worker/performer.
My problem with pornography is the reality of it as well as the reality of prostitution in general. The porn industry is the home of abuse, in every sense. First in the rawest sense, the physical and mental abuse that actresses go through; second in the reproduction and propagation of the culture of abuse, considering that it is the most recurrent theme in porn films; third in the economic sense, pornography, like prostitution in general, is the sale of consent: the actress or prostitute receives money to have sex with someone she would not have sex with under other circumstances, in short: paid rape.
When you responded to @[email protected], you said that you were against all porn.
Yes, and I also didn’t suggest banning pornography or anything like that. If you think that my statement alone that I am against pornography threatens pornography as a whole, you are greatly overestimating my influence.
You simply generalized all sex work as harmful to the worker/performer.
It is a convention, at least as I understand it, that when we are talking colloquially about a phenomenon, we are talking about how that phenomenon generally happens, even if we don’t use the word “generally” or something equivalent, since it is common sense that for everything there is at least one exception. If you feel like your case doesn’t fit into any of the issues I’ve outlined, with all honesty in my heart: good for you. However, most cases are not that lucky. Exception, instead of contradicting the rule, proves it, otherwise, it would not be an exception, it would be the rule itself.
What gets me about this is that, while it would still be bad, they could have mostly avoided the privacy nightmare here with some kind of Zero Knowledge Proof scheme, but the tracking is obviously part of the point.
You think govt officials can ingest, articulate, or even fathom what ZKrollups are?
We have the wrong people in govt unfortunately. Its mostly lawyers.
But yea, some sort of ZK schema would be interesting. Still dislike the porn credits tho.
I’ve got to get me a Spanish porn passport. I likes me some big bootie Spanish girls.
Yo what the fuck guys can you not
“Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.”
Well that’s a relief. For a minute there, I was worried.
Back in my day, extra credit had to be earned.
I’m already chafed.
