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Now him and Dave really got beef.
I thought this was from The Onion.
It’s People magazine, so it’s close enough.
People are like onions?
Well…they do both have layers
And they both make me cry when I chop them up…
Why is it news that a ‘celebrity’ is identifying with the most celebrated people group in the U.S.?
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Your valid as fuck bro, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
-Bisexual Dude
And both of you are very much valid, as well as anyone should be. Differences of sexuality makes no person lesser for them. So what if someone is attracted or not attracted to any specific thing? We’re all people nonetheless.
- An Asexual and Aromantic Person
Bitch I’m double oppressed,
Imagine thinking someone is inherently oppressed for being born.
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Good call. The brain rot in that person is too far gone, best to expend your effort elsewhere.
Buddy, a supreme court justice recently said they should reconsider gay marriage.
Oh no, one supreme court justice said they want to revisit a case, the horror!
Yes, in the wake of stripping women of abortion rights saying they should consider doing the same for gay marriage is a horror. Are you fucking kidding me?
Imagine being this stupid.
Imagine having no argument against it, so you just attack the individual.
Imagine not wanting to waste my time.
Are you really trying to pretend like conservatives aren’t constantly calling LGBTQ+ people groomers and pedophiles? Seriously?
I’m saying that LGBTQIA2S+ folks are the most celebrated folk in America.
And I’m saying you’re full of shit.
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And we also have shitheads threatening people’s over pride themed merchandise. We still have legislators enacting laws that attack trans people.
The fact that losers like you can’t stop crying about the existence of queer people is why pride is necessary.
Unless they came out as a white middle aged Christian male I have no idea how you can possible actually think this.
When was the last time you saw a white pride flag hanging up outside the white house?
They don’t need flags. They’re already massively privileged compared to most group.
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I see trump flags and blue lives matter flags everywhere what are you talking about?
Where did biden hang up any trump lags or blue lives matter flags??
As a person who belongs to “the most celebrated people group in the US”, I think it’s important for people like me to see ourselves represented in the world. We are a minority, so it’s noteworthy when a public figure comes out.
And idk man I don’t feel celebrated all that much in the US. Every week I see religious protestors outside the gay bar in my city with signs saying that I’m going to burn in hell for all eternity. I’ve been called a removed more times than I can count for simply holding another man’s hand while walking down the street. I’ve been fired from a job waiting tables because the manager saw my boyfriend pick me up.
Maybe your perspective, as someone who does not live every day of their life as a member of this community, is different. You might see the push to advocate for acceptance of LGBT+ people as “celebrating” them. It is not. It’s tolerance, and we still don’t even have that.
It’s ok to use self referential slurs. They’re our words 😌
As a person who belongs to “the most celebrated people group in the US”, I think it’s important for people like me to see ourselves represented in the world.
I’m Filipino, I’d like to see more people ‘like me’ represented, but biden just cares about flying the pride flag and ignoring actual minorities
Ok I’m just gonna move right past the “actual minorities” thing because… yikes. I hope that just came across wrong because it sounds incredibly insensitive
I think representation is important for all minorities and I can empathize with wishing our elected politicians would do more. Biden has done a lot during his term to support the LGBT community, but obviously there is a lot more that needs to be done. He has promised to pass a bill reaffirming the rights of LGBT people after the recent Supreme Court case. That would be huge but we will have to see if Republicans in Congress prevent it from passing, as they’ve done with countless other progressive proposals.
Here is some of the other work he’s done to support LBGT people. Hope you see that he’s paying far more than just lip service
https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline
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Man, I hate when people call me a “removed”
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Removed by the most thin-skinned mod ever. Stretching real hard for that Rule 1.
It’s hot when they toot their pipes!
Great article. Thank you for posting
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As if you had a chance? Lol
I wish he were “make more episodes of Let’s Make a Deal”-sexual. Conversely, Drew Carey is quite punctual but sucks as a game show host.
Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
Only with their enthusiastic consent.
It’s me. Im the bitch.
RIVERSIDE, MOTHA FUCKA!
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Who?
That’s the guy who’s gonna choke a bitch.
Check out Whose Line Is It Anyway, both the original and the reboot. Great show!
First time hearing it, I had no idea (not American, for what is worth).
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I’m pansexual.
In doing my research, both with myself and just with the world, I couldn’t say if I was bisexual, because I had to really see what that was, especially because I really have not gotten a chance to act on anything. So, I came to pansexual because — and I know that I’m completely messing up the dictionary meaning — but to me, pan means being able to be attracted to anyone who identifies as gay, straight, bi, transsexual or non-binary. Being able to be attracted across the board. And, I think, at least for me for right now, that is the proper place. I took pan to mean that not only can I be attracted to any of these people or types physically, but I could be attracted to the person that is there.Lover of cookware
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Universal Boner Donor.
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Or just read the article before you post something so ignorant.
Pansexuality is broader than bisexuality, and people who identify as pansexual may be attracted to people of all genders. Bisexuality is the attraction to two or more genders, but not necessarily all.
The terms broadly overlap, but the distinction matters to some people and that’s okay.
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Every time you complain, we add 5 more.
Two or more. If you’re really dead set on saying bisexuality is inherently sexist or transphobic, that’s your own thing to deal with. I don’t get the sense that this is in good faith.
17 plus genders? Amateur numbers.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-this-fungus-has-over-20-000-sexes
To clarify, most people had no idea what bisexual was before David Bowie put a label on it in the late 70s and I doubt people who are calling themselves bisexual are doing it to be exclusionary. Shit, people still have trouble admitting the Starman liked women and men to this day and the guy was dumped by the love of his life for that revelation.
I know we don’t use this term much here but
Hella based.
The definition I originally came across is a pansexual person is not attracted by gender but by the personality. So no rules or restrictions on sex organs or gender identity or presentation. It’s really attraction to the person underneath above all else.
don’t mean to be ignorant but how is that not just a word for non-superficial bisexual?
I’d assume people that are bi are attracted to biological males and biological females, but not necessarily transsexuals or anything else on the sexuality/gender spectrum.
Sorry, that’s incorrect. Bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender, and thats any of the genders on the gender spectrum. Pansexuals are less specific; most define it as gender not being the primary part of their attraction. Some pansexuals are only interested in certain genders, others consider themselves open to any gender. The overlap for these two terms is pretty big, but there are a few differences nonetheless.
“Bisexuality is a whole, fluid identity. Do not assume that bisexuality is binary or duogamous in nature: that we have “two” sides or that we must be involved simultaneously with both genders to be fulfilled human beings. In fact, don’t assume that there are only two genders. Do not mistake our fluidity for confusion, irresponsibility, or an inability to commit. Do not equate promiscuity, infidelity, or unsafe sexual behavior with bisexuality. Those are human traits that cross all sexual orientations.” (The Bisexual Manifesto, Bay Area Bisexual Network, c. 1990)
From what I can tell bisexual can mean a couple of things depending on who you ask. Either an attraction to two genders eg. cis men and women, or perhaps an attraction to multiple but not all genders. Pansexual on the other hand means an attraction to all, including trans or nonbinary people, etc.
The “bi” part of bisexual implies a gender binary. Some people like that, some people don’t. Pansexual is just an alternative that is explicit in its attraction to non-binary people. Some people aren’t attracted to non-binary people, and use bisexual as a label to specifically mean only an attraction to men and women. Other people who might be described as pansexual describe themselves as bisexual simply because it is a more well known word. It all varies.
“Non superficial bisexual” isn’t the worst definition of pansexual, but saying pansexual is shorter.
I’ve always felt that bi = people of my sex or people of the other sex. Nothing about the word “bisexual” implies any gender to me, it just means I’m not explicitly gay or straight!
Allow me to be more clear about why I said that.
It is mostly because of the words themselves. The “bi” prefix means 2, or twice, etc. That would mean the word bisexual literally means “twice sexual”. Sexuality is inherently related to gender because it is a quality defined by relationships between people’s genders, and bisexual thus (literally, but often not functionally) means a person who is sexually attracted to two genders.
The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who is sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.
The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who is sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.
The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who
iscan be sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.___Hetero, bi, and gay people are not attracted to any or every of their preferred gender. It’s a small difference in language but I think pansexuals would agree that phrasing it as “is sexually attracted to any and every gender” implies pansexuals are out there trying to bang anything with a pulse whereas the truth is just that gender or sexuality are not barriers to them. I guess it would be more accurate to say “pansexuals are sexually attracted to partners independent of sex and/or gender identity”?
This is probably oversimplified, but maybe helpful:
Straight - consider themselves sexually attracted to opposite gender/sex
Gay - consider themselves sexually attacted to same gender/sex
Bi - consider themselves sexually attracted to either gender/sex
Pan - consider themselves sexually attracted
I agree that pansexuality doesn’t mean an attraction to every individual of every gender, yes. I should have been more direct in how I said this part, but when I say “a person who is sexually attracted to every gender that there is or could be” I am just trying to communicate what you said. I suppose I would personally see a distinction between “attraction to a gender” and “attraction to a person of said gender”, where the prior means overall sexual compatibility with that gender, and the latter means a literal instance of someone feeling attracted to someone else. But I can see how there isn’t any actual clear distinction between the two, I should say it different.
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I feel as a straight man with few connections to the LGBT community that I should be able to define the differences between Pan and Bi
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The “bi” part of bisexual implies a gender binary
No. Historically it kind of did, but the definition has evolved since the existence of non-binary started to be widely accepted in LGBT+ circles. Now it just means attracted to more than one gender. Pansexual is a subcategory of bisexual.
makes sense, thanks
The way I (a bisexual) have always interpreted the difference is that pansexuals feel the same attraction to all genders and that bisexuals feel different attraction to different genders. I identify as bi because I definitely feel different kinds of attractions towards men, women and enby’s.
If only they addressed that in the article…
“I am pansexual,” he says, meaning that he is attracted to persons regardless of their sex or gender.
Brady puts it another way: “Bisexual — with an open mind!” he says with a chuckle.Oh wait they did. Read the article.
So somebody wanted to broaden their understanding by asking a simple question and you decided to be a dick?
Maybe they didn’t have time to read the article and thought somebody would help.
The previous comment getting so many votes is saddening on lemmy. Someone asked a question that wasn’t bigoted and instead of taking the opportunity to educate another human they took the time to quote the article and type up a reply that was dismissive. These types of issues can only be resolved with education and someone taking the extra time to put someone else down is definitely not an ally.
Right. I personally struggle with a lot of the “terms” these days - not because I think they are wrong, only because I don’t always understand what they mean.
On Reddit, when I saw them used, I would ask for clarification and I’d learn something.
Being dismissive to people trying to learn isn’t going to bring them into the ally space.
Wait, you can read articles?
What is a close-minded bisexual?
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A closed minded bisexual would be someone that is only attracted to cisgender people of either sex. So only females that identify as women and males that identify as men.
A pansexual person can be attracted to females that identify as women, men, neither, both, etc. Same with males that identify as men, women, neither, both, etc.
When he said “open mind” it was a joke. You don’t choose who you’re sexually attracted to. If you’re not attracted to trans people, that’s fine and is no reflection on whether or not you’re a bigot.
You may know this, but I’ve run into several who don’t, so I want to clarify.
Trans women are female. Trans men are male.
Bisexuality isn’t transphobic. Transphobes are transphobic.
Good lord, not being sexually attracted to trans folks is not transphobia.
If you’re refusing to date someone solely because they’re trans, then yeah it kinda is. Things like genital preference, the person “passing”, etc are preferences you’re certainly allowed to have, but are going to apply on a case by case basis. If you’re otherwise attracted to someone and the only deal breaker is the fact that they’re trans, that’s by definition a prejudice against trans people.
Edit: listen nobody is forcing yall to date a trans person. What I’m saying is that most valid hang ups someone might have don’t apply to every trans person, there’s gonna be trans people with the junk/body type/voice/whatever else that you’re into. So refusing to date someone just because they’re trans is the prejudiced part, not whatever personal preference you have that’s gonna stop you from dating some or most trans folks.
Yep, right here. The perfect example of how we shouldn’t do inclusion. No, I don’t want to date a trans person. It’s a preference. Not prejudice. I am into biological women. Why would you care? It’s not your call to make what I can or can’t be into and it’s not yours to call me prejudiced because I don’t want to date a trans person.
No? If you’re a cis straight person, you’re going to be attracted to people of the other gender. For most people, this is both attraction to the behaviour (attracted to femininity or masculinity respectively), and the attraction to the specific gentials.
If I was 100% in that cis straight guy box, then for a female trans person to meet those requirements, they’d have to be fairly indistingishable from a cis female. That’s very rare, for example most people would not have had a vaginoplasty. If I was to date a trans guy, then I’d personally be put off by the masculinity, even if they had the genitalia I was into.
Personally, I’m not 100% straight because I’m more flexibile with the genitalia, so long as they have that femininity. But I 100% understand why other people wouldn’t date a trans person because they’re trans, even if they were fine being friends with them. After all, I wouldn’t date a guy even though I’m fine being friends with them, that doesn’t make me homophobic.
Hey there. Trans person here to tell you that you are just straight up wrong. We haven’t been fighting for rights for years so people can backtrack on the basic rules of sexuality out of misplaced identity zealotry. The whole point of most queer dialogue is that you can’t control who you’re attracted to. Magically changing that is actually just another way to harm trans people in the eyes of potential cis allies.
Bigotry is when you attack a person with prejudice. It’s not if a person just doesn’t date a person. No one is owed sex. Not getting sex is not a prejudice nor is it oppression.
And if a person didn’t go the distance to attack people they simply aren’t attracted to, attacking someone by calling them prejudiced just cuz they won’t have sex with someone is an incorrect use of the meaning of that word. This breaches on being malicious with intent to harass.
Being bisexual doesn’t mean you can’t be attracted to trans folks though.
Fucking preach. I’m bisexual and I’m attracted to anyone my brain and heart click with. Which is very few people. Luckily I found another me to date, then marry, and be togevva foreva with.
Bi = 2
Bisexual = attracted to people of the other sex AND my own = 2
So many people don’t get that.
Are we now going to see biphobia from trans people too? Fuckin A. As you were, we are used to it.
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Going to? They have always been here, but like the rise of TERFs or Cubans in Florida, now that a lot of the LGBTQ spectrum has gotten some progress–enough that the T part of that list is being addressed–some people are gonna play the “got mine, fuck you” game.
It’s a good reminder that even people who agree with 99% of what you do can still be assholes somewhere deep down in their cold hearts.
It really gets under my skin when folks frame bisexuality as bigoted pansexuality.
Edit: I’m not saying he wasn’t making a lighthearted joke and I’m not even really saying he shouldn’t have said it. I’m just sad that for a lot of people this may be the first time they hear about pansexuality and assume it means that people who say they’re bi are transphobic, enbyphobic, or something else.
Yeah tons of people use the label “bisexual” even though by strict definition they might actually be pan. And that’s totally fine, you don’t always have to use the most specific terminology.
I probably lean harder pan than bi, but the bi flag is too nice to not like it.
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*word-forming element meaning “all, every, whole, all-inclusive,” from Greek pan-, combining form of pas (neuter pan, masculine and neuter genitive pantos) “all,” from PIE pant- “all” (with derivatives found only in Greek and Tocharian).
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Good luck trying to eradicate every word with multiple meanings from the English language, I guess
For those who might not have the best English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan#prefix
I’m not a pansexual because I refuse to fuck people with green skin, regardless of gender status.
Exactly. Unfuckable.
Sulley tho…
We all have our types I guess.
What about an olive hue to their skin complexion? Why do you love everyone except Mediterranean people?
They don’t appreciate your absurd twist of the term olive complexion, but I do.
And it’s because the Mediterraneans won’t nut up and reestablish the Phoenician Empire.
Good for him. And good for lots of other people, probably. But we all kind of figured, right? That man flirts with everyone, with impressive sincerity.
It’s clear he contains too much sexual energy to have a limited focus.
It’s always so eye-opening to read about a larger-than-life personality like Brady considering themselves an introvert and being bullied in school. I am glad he got to a point where he is happy and can share his story.
is the word removed banned? why am I seeing removed here often?
Edit: Seems you can’t say b*tch. TIL.
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So… you’re saying you are ban evading?
@BanMeAgainIWontStop be like:
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Very cool! I’m very happy for you that ban evading works so great for you.
Possibly clients will offer the option to filter net-negative comments so we just don’t see 'em…
Just go back to Reddit. Simple.
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Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllll…
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I read earlier that .ml instance censors certain words
Did the mods specify why?
No, I’m sorry it was a user explaining why they left .ml and I don’t know how to find that post again.
If I had to guess it’s because that instance was created by CCP supporters and have some stricter rules.
Is the CCP in the room with us right now?
Test: bitch
“I said, biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch…”
Your bitch has been approved
Ty, bitch.
It’s bitch city up in here. Bitch city
oof. I don’t mind words, any way to see if an instance doesn’t ban them?
