When is an ad an advertisement and not a recommendation? Microsoft clearly likes to use the term recommendation for what others may see as an advertisement.
There are recommendations in the Start menu, Settings app, Lock screen, File Explorer, Get Help app, and other areas of the operating system already. These are often not that useful. App recommendations in the Start menu are limited to Microsoft Store apps.
Now, Microsoft is testing recommendations in the Microsoft Store app. If you never use the app, you won’t be exposed to these. If you do, you may notice recommendations popping up when you try to use the built-in search.
First spotted by phantomofearth on X, two or three recommendations are shown whenever search is activated in the official Microsoft Store app.
I’m so done with companies claiming my house for their ads.
It’s my house i decide what makes it in as i pay the rent and i bought these devices, so fuck off.
Is Microsoft so in debt that they need to sell ad space in every pixal of their products? What is going on.
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The rate of profit is declining and the managers are looking for anything and everything to prop it back up. A German guy wrote about this like 150 years ago.
Debt? This is capitalism, baby. Where every year’s profits have to be bigger than last year’s or else it counts as you failing, no matter how enormous the profits were last year.
The hell? This leads only to inflation.
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Human sacrifices please the line. 💹
the 2nd most valuable company in the world? Hardly.
No they’re just switching business models, from paying for an OS outright to OS as a service
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It’s not enough for a company to have a lot of money, they have to have all the money.
Remember: under capitalism companies are legally obligated to pursue every last dollar they can possibly get, regardless of the damage it will do to the product, company, customer, or bystanders.
Remember: under capitalism companies are legally obligated to pursue every last dollar they can possibly get, regardless of the damage it will do to the product, company, customer, or bystanders
This is not true. Please stop repeating this lie which has become the excuse for companies to be even more evil
Dumb businesses majors who only know “growth”
As soon as they announced ads were gonna be in the start menu, i noped out of windows. I only use it for work which doesn’t bother me because im not doing anything private on my work pc.
I switched to Fedora 40 with KDE and never looked back. My only real gripe is with making music. Getting the VSTs to work and setting up yabridge is kind of a headache that i still need to do 😮💨 aside from that, Linux has been my daily driver for quite a while now and im happy i switched even though im still learning.
I have not dove into yabridge yet. What DAW did you go with?
After poking around I decided to go with Bitwig and skip trying to go with getting Ableton working with Proton or Wine. I’ve actually been enjoying some of their default VSTs as I practice my piano again, but I do miss my paid VSTs a lot.
Have been really looking around at the vsts that have native Linux support though. Was really glad to see of u-he’s VSTs worked natively.
I’m a huge fan of reaper. Nice clean daw for a good price imo. It being cross platform was a bonus. I started making music on Windows and the best part of switching to Linux was that reaper just works after figuring out how the hell to install it lol. Some Linux stuff im ok at but im still figuring things out.
And same here. I’m a self pianist like my grandfather was. I really like addictive keys for playing piano and was happy to see the standalone version works with bottles. But without yabridge setup, i haven’t been able to make much recently.
Ive been looking to find a replacement for addictive keys thats native to Linux or works well at least.
I will have to take a look at Reaper!
Its $60 for a personal/small bussines use and a great daw. Would recommend. But whatever daw works best for you is great too :)
Microsoft seem determined to make us hate using Windows 11, which was all that hard to begin with. If Macs weren’t so expensive, and Linux such a pain in the ass, I’d happily switch.
I don’t know about Linux being a pain in the ass. My kid was using first Linux on a laptop and then mac, and he wanted to go back to Linux where things make sense. He felt the mac was really confusing in where the files were. He also loved the integrated Software app where he can point and click install everything.
Now he is learning the terminal… :)
I think there is plenty of people who think macs are a pain in the ass too. Depends on what you are used to.
I would say a “recommendation” is an ad when an accountant is involved instead of (or in addition to) a curator. Even if it’s Microsoft recommending Microsoft’s products, department budgets probably track that internally (though I’m sure the official accounting is done in a way that shifts profits to a tax haven).
Yeah, basically as soon as money changes hands, a recommendation becomes an ad.
I have used Windows 10 for years and recently switched to Windows 11 and I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad in my day to day OS use. I don’t do the registry edits or turn off the telemetry stuff, either. I don’t know what I’m doing differently but I’m not seeing these ads that apparently infected Windows.
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The home edition of windows has these ads baked in, but the pro/enterprise editions seem to be able to avoid this for now.
I have home.
If you also live in Europe or set up your computer in the US with European English then you can also skirt some of the ads as well
Nope and nope.
Most of these reports are about preview builds of Windows.
That said, surely you have seen recommendations from Microsoft to try their Office package and such oil up. It’s like that, but more intrusive.
I can’t believe Microsoft is making me switch from Windows to Mac and Linux, but here we are.
Actually, no I’ve never seen an ad for office but that might be because I’m already a customer.
Are you running Home or a Pro-like version?
Recommendations is just an euphemism marketing joke. Every serious journalist would call them what they are, ads.
The last Windows 10 update automatically installed copilot without asking. Immediately deleted that shit
if you’re dead set on staying on Windows then ReviOS will help with that. it removes edge, onedrive, copilot, ads, etc. improves performance only slightly.
I’m playing with Linux now and swapping when support for 10 is done
Thank you for letting me know. I will too.
A friend said it didn’t for him, but for me it was in slot 1 of the taskbar
It’s not on mine yet.
So some a/b testing maybe
Listen, bill gates just needs to buy more arable land. This, of course, is your capital to earn by being good and not using linux or Firefox to banish these innocent little ads.
Gates could never make another cent and it wouldn’t matter to him in regards to purchasing power.
I’m so happy that I will never have to deal with this on my home computers. At work we can at least disable it all via policies. But my god has Microsoft lost its way. What happened to making professional business products?
While I hate ads as much as the next person, I’m having trouble getting outraged by ads in an app store. “Recommendations” are kinda par for that course. Sure, it would be nice if those “recommendations” actually reflected stuff I was interested in and not just who paid Microsoft the most for ad placement. But, I also aggressively turn off telemetry (and actually don’t use Windows at home). So, it’s not like I expect useful recommendations anyway.
I already run Linux on my laptop. The one thing keeping me from getting rid of Windows on my big machine is Forza games. Motorsport does not seem to work at all with proton/wine (yet)
really? I got Forza Horizon working on my Linux machine through Steam.
What distro are you using? I’ve heard if you’re on Mint you’re going to have a bad time. I’m using CachyOS and haven’t had any issues.
Didn’t try it with Horizon, i want to play Forza Motorsport (2023) which is completely borked because of the shitty microsoft DRM
I’m just riding win10 until I finally nab a new gpu and 5700x3d. Htpc and media server are running mint, I think I’ll change the server distro next time I upgrade the hardware though
The ads are in the app store. I don’t really understand why that’s a problem. Although I’m probably the only tool out there that actually likes Windows 11.
lol yep you probably are
Self aware idiot.