and then he got killed so fucking hard by that guy and his
that everyone did actually start fucking again.Abe was a fascist shit, he deserved it.
Gotta do the rest of the liberal party too unfortunately though.
“Hey, baby, the prime minister is telling us to have kids. That’s got me pretty horny. No, he’s not making any significant changes to help take the edge off that massive expense and responsibility, but who cares? I’ll put his speech on loop and turn it up. Let’s fuck.”
“Also if it helps he’s been dead for over a year.”
Japan is trying to change things. I think it’s just really far behind. While I was there, I remember government run/funded dating programs. The government names and shames companies that overwork their employees. But their definition of overwork is probably well beyond ours. The one-employer-for-life mentality is slowly eroding but it’s slow.
Work hours are long and grueling. Childcare is phenomenally expensive, and that’s assuming you can even find childcare, which is near impossible. Children are expensive. Cost of living is high. Cheating and domestic violence are rates are high. Women have no confidence that they will be supported or be able to provide support if they decide to have a child, and they are very right to think that.
Scarce resources avaliable for women who have children is the reason for the decline. You could never pay me enough to ever have a child in Japan.
Not mention, plenty of Japanese adults grew up being abused and/or neglected by their own parents while growing up in a pressure-cooker society. Maybe they’re thinking twice about bringing another human into the world because of that, as well?
Human reproduction is an astoundingly bad deal reserved for the richest and most powerful who can outsources the endless source of problems briefs and complications that it is.
The only reason this continued for so long is that we were too stupid to realize not doing it was an option.
Idk man I really love my kid.
They also have this fucked up idea that pain is an important part of becoming a mother so they don’t really offer things like epidurals. Yeah, no thanks.
I am not personally familiar with the Japanese medical system, but I would not be shocked if that were the case.
Add “treating women really shitty and unfairly” to the checklist.
assuming you can even find childcare
I think this needs an ‘affordable’ thrown in. The free and cheap stuff is really hard to get into, but there are other, more expensive options (though out of reach of most).
plenty of Japanese adults grew up being abused and/or neglected by their own parents
Do what now? Source?
These links are not for the faint of heart.
https://metropolisjapan.com/the-controversy-of-japans-baby-hatch/
And this is only what gets reported. Rest assured, a majority of abuse is never reported.
Poverty is so much more prevalent for single mothers, as well.
Yeah, it was definitely up during corona. All domestic abuse was up then (and in a lot of the world).
For your first link, it states that the abuse found is more extreme, but the source they link to doesn’t work. I do remember the horrible story of that poor child from the news here. It then goes on to just give numbers with no citations or sources whatsoever. The whole publication also seems a bit weird.
Abandonment of infants is definitely a thing that happens and I’m glad that a baby hatch solution now exists.
I do agree that often abuse goes unreported and/or un-prosecuted (as do rapes and many other crimes in Japan). I just don’t see anything here stating that it’s on the scale I seemed to think you were saying.
Things for single mothers does need to get a lot better; making women more equal in society and actually enforcing the protections on their jobs and family leave could go a long way to this.
I’ve been living in Japan the better part of a decade. I’ve had friends from all walks of life. Some did open up to me about abuse (I was also an abused child for a good chunk of my childhood and have sometimes talked about it), but I’ve really heard no more here than in the US. There are two problems with this. (1) it’s anecdotal based on the experience of one guy in Tokyo and (2) what some people would call abuse, others would not making things even more sticky.
I do think that, whatever the scale of abuse, non-zero is too much and that should be addressed, but I also don’t think it’s some super-regular thing which is what I think you were intending to write,
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you.
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This “weakness” is the only thing that makes existence remotely tolerable.
claims to be pro natalist
-1
Begging my population to have kids instead of doing anything to address the conditions that make it impossible for enough of them to have kids
Oh yeah
Move over material analysis, It’s idealism as politics time
Shinzo Abe was a clown and Japan’s abortion laws are draconian.
Oral contraceptives were legalized in 1999.
Old meme I’m sure, would be funnier in 2020
May be an old meme, but the problem persists.
What two atomic bombs does a mf
What’s that big drop in births in the 60s?
That was a fire horse year. Since it is believed that girls born in such a year will kill their future husbands, people in Japan tried to avoid having children in 1966.
Ironic considering how he died.
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Missing picture of Abe holding his stomach: “You had time to make a mother fucking blunderbuss, but not enough to fuck?!”
“You are the one who is fucked now, Abe-kun.”
How would they have time? They all work 15 hours per day
Okay what? Isn’t the average workweek length in Japan only slightly longer than in the West?
The official work hours, sure. All the unpaid, unreported overtime they have to do, nope.
Hmm maybe during the commute?
I mean that’s when some get frisky.
According to some, ahem, totally legit drawn stories I’ve read, they do that a lot in trains
Anything except bringing in immigrants
That only works for 1 or 2 generations, when the immigrants’ descendants find out what the pre-existing citizenry already has found out: that it’s too expensive and difficult to have children, particularly when you’re overworked all the time.
Plus, immigrants are usually only brought in for jobs that are shittier, harder, lower-paying, and with fewer benefits than the current population of native born citizens already have.
I’m a children of immigrants in the USA who is childless (hell, most of my cousins are too) and I live around immigrants of every nationality, and most either want to wait until 30 to have kids (and generally only like 1 kid at that) or want to have no kids.
It’s like that in a lot of western nations with birthrate problems. It doesn’t take long for new people to start acting like the old people if the conditions are bad enough, and they are.
That’s why you take a steady stream. Also, the culture changes, hopefully for the good, as immigrants bring in new perspectives
I don’t think that people having children in their 30s is a bad thing. In fact, there’s a lot of misconceptions about when a woman should have a child, and it’s safe to have children even into your 40s. I think young women don’t want to start birthing kids in early adulthood when there isn’t a strong family support system in their life. Also, to be honest, most people are still trying to figure out so much about who they are and what they want in their 20s, I’d rather see more people waiting to have kids than people having kids without a thought of how they’re going to provide
My wife and I are just kinda sorta getting to a place where we could consider having a kid. But we are getting a little old to have a kid.
Also, a kid at this point would tank out ability to save and slow down our career progress.
So by the time people get to a financial place to have a kid, they are too old to do it. Or they have to sacrifice too much.
Same. We’re just gonna adopt once things slow down a bit and we feel ready
My sister-in-law want her first child to be adopted and if she decides for a second one she will possibly have her own.
I think my wife and I decided to stay kid free, but we will be a big part of our niece and nephews life.
I don’t know if this will change your mind, but I think people exaggerate how difficult it is to have a kid. It’s pretty hard for the first year, but it gets easier. I had my son when I was 19. I haven’t thought about having another until recently, my son is 9 now, so it’s been 10 years or so. It’s a pretty big sacrifice at first but it does get easier with time… Then they got school and after school activities. I spend a lot of time with my son and enjoy spending time with him, so it’s not like it’s a drain. I also managed to get a solid career without a college degree by wit and effort. People who weren’t going to accomplish anything with their lives love to blame their children for their own shortcomings. I’m not saying it wasn’t without sacrifice, but don’t listen to naysayers. A child is not the end of the world.
You’ll be old when you’re dead. Go have a kids and teach them everything you know
I mean like we are biologically getting too old to have kids.
I mean that’s definitely the best move in the short term, but they still need to cultivate an environment that encourages having children.
True. People have barely any time to build a family
Abe’s push for native births over integration of foreigners always struck me as deeply racist. Especially knowing the background reasons why birth rates are so low.
Yeah he is right wing afterall.
What are the background reasons for low birthrate?
Low salaries and culturally long working hours, plus the cultural tradition for women to abandon their jobs to take care of their children (which they can’t afford to do in this economy, so most just postpone child rearing)
