This stupid topic again
But sure
This is the best summary I could come up with:
New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Instagram Live early on Friday morning to share her thoughts on Joe Biden’s floundering re-election campaign - and warning that many of those who want the President to drop out of the race, also want Vice President Kamala Harris off the ticket too.
“If you think that there is consensus among the people who want Joe Biden to leave … that they will support, Vice President Harris, you would be mistaken,” she told viewers.
She slammed her colleagues for giving anonymous quotes to the press, calling it “bull****” and urged those resigned to a loss to Donald Trump to give up their seats.
This comes amid mounting pressure on Biden to leave the race.
While he remains publicly committed to staying in the race, Axios reports that in private, the president has resigned himself to increasing calls from lawmakers for him to drop out amid bad polling and mounting scrutiny of his age and mental acuity.
“I’m here to tell you that a huge amount of the donor class and a huge amount of these elites and a huge amount of these folks in these rooms that I see that are pushing for President Biden to not be the nominee also are not interested in seeing the Vice President being the nominee,” she added.
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Just remember that during the 2016 election, the “If not Bernie, then Trump” bros turned out to be Russian interference.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just Russia trying to split the Dem base.
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Literally no one wanted Kamala in the primaries. Everyone knows she got picked as a token diversity VP and not because she was actually popular or anything.
She has a higher chance of losing than Biden. If we’re gonna axe the incubent, then you better open up some serious candidates, otherwise this will be a repeat of 2016 and no one will vote.
Ugh, id probably vote for kamala for being younger. But shes got a very low approval rating and has a lot of the same baggage Biden has, over the gaza situation and the border.
I just thought of a pretty optimistic angle though, if Biden drops out and a new candidate runs, its their first term. With someone younger winning gives them a better chance at using whats supposed to be a huge incumbency advantage for 8 more years of dems controlling the whitehouse at least.
Kamala is as popular as wet toilet paper. Nobody likes her. Every time she speaks in public, her ratings go down.
This is why you never listen to panicking morons by themselves. If you remove the whole ticket they won’t even have ballot access.
I don’t really care what happens as long as the Republicans don’t win. If AOC’s only problem is that Kamala won’t be on the ticket, then is that problem really worth risking putting the fascists in power?
Does anyone like Kamala lol
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Liberals: “Stop saying Defund the Police! You’re making us look bad!”
Also Liberals: “You can’t run an AG for President. They’re going to be way too unpopular to win, given how much people hate the police.”
So…. Basically, democrats can’t run ANYONE that would make you happy.
They can’t run anyone who will make the oligarchy happy. Edit: if they want to win
Honestly, the idea that they might be self aware enough to recognize that running a cop is a losing idea would be an amazing feat for them. I think it’s more likely we’re dealing with racism here. And yes, many of the the Dems are pretty racist, they just don’t realize it or admit it like the Republicans.
She’s popular with her step kids, who call her Momala.
First Past The Post voting ensures that a good portion of the people voting for her do not want her. Same for Joe biden. Same for the Republican and democratic parties.
first past the post isn’t responsible for that. it’s a tactic called “strategic voting” and it results in the consolidation of parties under fptp. the solution is not to vote for people you don’t want to win.
Gold medal in mental gymnastics there.
it’s a clear-eyed understanding of what to do about party consolidation under fptp.
There’s a gaggle of coconut memes of her on tiktok, so I guess some people do.
Maybe if she did something, we could have something to like about her
Just because you’re not paying attention, doesn’t mean something didn’t happen.
Besides: post-9/11, the veeps stay in the shadows or at the off-site bunker.
VPs have no job except to succeed the president and break ties in the Senate, along with presiding for a few ritualistic things. That’s really it. What do expect want her to do?
VPs have no job except to succeed the president and break ties in the Senate
sinister Cheney chortling
Give speeches? Get people excited about voting, civil rights, etc
She does those all the time. You aren’t paying attention.
The media refuses to cover Democrats, to be fair
Where?
So you want a cheerleader like Ballmer. “Developers! Developers! Developers!”
She owned a couple initiatives, chaired a couple committees, cast a few votes. Surely, something there could have turned into a success. Heck, she could campaign for the ticket, present the platform, cheerlead for her running mate.
Given her track record, no, probably best she doesn’t do anything
Kamala and AOC would be a lit ticket. I still think we’re barreling towards another Reagan era victory by doing this. But that “medical emergency” + instant COVID was almost a sign from the universe.
VPs are usually picked to shore up an electoral weakness of the candidate in question. I don’t think adding a second brown woman to the ticket would make sense, much as I would personally love this.
The weakness this election cycle, for the dems, is the apathy of the base. In that context AOC would be a pretty solid choice.
Much as people on the left like to repeat this, I’m not sure it’s evident that this is the main weakness of the Democratic ticket. Even if true, you’d be solving one weakness by creating another.
But I’d be curious about polling on this, I could be wrong certainly. If Harris becomes the nominee, we might start to see some polling on VP picks.
You got a good point there. Its just, who else is palatable? Whitmer + AOC?
I think the VP for a woman or POC probably needs to be a boring white guy unfortunately. I think there’s still a lot of racism and sexism lurking beneath the surface in the US so you don’t want it to look like some kind of feminist or minority takeover.
In terms of quality I would prefer AOC/Kamala to Kamala/AOC, but neither combination is good for electability.
Aoc can’t run for president yet.
She’ll be old enough on election day and that’s all that matters.
Yes she can. Otherwise she couldn’t be VP.
She’s 35 on October 13th. Fully qualified.
Well, yeah. She has an even worse chance of winning than the guy with covid for brains
Bypassing her could have a powerful effect on black voters, who we need if we’re going to win. If Harris can’t win because no one likes her, and no one else can win because black voters are affronted by skipping her when it’s her turn, we’re just well and truly fucked.
Black voters aren’t a monolithic block and they aren’t as identity focused as people accuse them of being (well outside of Obama being the first black president). If the candidate has a solid track record of helping minority communities we’d likely see a pretty good turn out.
No, but if they turn out in lower numbers we are in trouble. They don’t have to leave as a monolith, just takes agitators to decry the action as racist hypocrisy by the left and maybe 10% of them stay home. That scenario works hurt a lot.
I mean it’s speculation. I don’t know what the risk or damage would actually be. Maybe I’m overly concerned, but I am concerned.
It’s definitely worth being concerned about, but the entire democratic shitshow has been worth being concerned about for a good while now.
I think it would depend heavily on who they skipped over her in favour of. Unfortunately I can’t really think of an obvious replacement that won’t ruffle feathers one way or another, it’s just a matter of minimizing it. A pretty middle-age-or-older white guy is right out, bad plan, so that’s probably the plan the DNC would go with
Black voters are going to be upset if they skip the person who disproportionately prossecuted black people?
Well, then do what they should have done 5 months ago find a likable person as a replacement.
Black voters, the same as all voters, barely look into stuff like this. They don’t know her history.
Let me know when you get a time machine
The fart left: “BiDeN old”
Democrats: “Okay, how about Kamila?”
The Far Left: “Not her either!”
Democrats: “Okay, then who?”
The Far Left: “…………”
TRUMP WINS.
The far Left: “See! We told you!”
She acts like that’s a bad thing. It’s the truth, and it’s not the “elites,” it’s most democratic voters, donors, and a sizeable percentage of political elites, i.e. senators and congress people. Don’t look now, AOC, but you are one of the elites.
Trading Biden for Harris is just allowing Trump to campaign against the same administration and trading a guy too old to effectively communicate for someone who is just ineffective at communicating.
I don’t want Harris only slightly less than I don’t want Biden. They’re both losers, but not in the vague insulting sense: in the sense that they’re both likely to lose to Trump.
Nothing hurts a political campaign more than uncertainty.
I’ll bet the MAGA camp is loving this shit right now.
eh I’ll take Kamela. It’d be hillarious to see a racist beaten by a black woman
I’m voting for the administration that will keep democracy alive in our country.
And it’s 🔵🔵🔵
I will too, but my concern is that Harris won’t be able to excite the voting base.
My vote is secured - it’s whoever has a D next to their name… I’m worried that not enough democrats will turn out if we choose poorly.
Your concerns are valid, but the supreme court is being actively used for lawfare & some Washington backroom deal for the doner class outside of the norm for anyone else besides the republican party has double ungood chances for the switched candidate to succeed.
There is so much about donald’s project 2025 that isn’t known by average people. There will be no election for the democrats come 2028, only for MAGA if they get their way.
I’m worried black voters will not turn out in the needed numbers if they interpret skipping Kamala as the presumptive nominee to be a betrayal. I’m very concerned about a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario.
Biden has done a good job as President. I don’t love him as the nominee, but I’m afraid the chaos of him stepping down is going to create a no win scenario. Some folks think he is the no win scenario. If it’s truly impossible for us to put forward a candidate who can win, that’s not a problem we can pin on the other side - we did that to ourselves. And at the worst possible time for it.
The average black person cares way less about having a black president than the typical white Lemmy user assumes they do. Only the most off-the-rails liberals support allowing race to be a factor in hiring decisions. Hell - even far-left California outlawed affirmative action.
If you’re picking a president based on race, you are implicitly racist and therefore part of the problem.
Every black voter I’ve talked to (pretty limited, but enough) is asking “what did Biden do for us?” and that’s a valid question. Especially after the George Floyd priests, barely anything happened for the black community. And they’re already living under the oppression of what amounts to Project 2025.
