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I am probably in the minority that just does not care. I can’t remember the last time I plugged my phone into something.
Good for all of you that do, but this is a feature I just don’t care about.
Am I the only one who still has nothing using USB-C?
I have a single USB-C cable for my laptop display and that’s really it. Charging is still done via barrel plug. Headphones/phone/iPad are lightning, watch is it’s own thing and all my pc peripherals still use micro-b. I seem to have more devices using usb-A than usb-C.
I’ll probably end up sticking with my 14 because lightning is less of a hassle than switching all my cords and not being able to charge things I need.
Yup, you’re the only one. I’ve been on USB-C for five years now. Just gotta replace my cannabis vape, and I’ll be free of Micro-USB for good. Even a good portion of my PC peripherals use USB-C now. I’d ditch USB-A entirely if I could but unfortunately my motherboard only has 4 C ports*.
I just bought a portable fan for my tent that charges via USB-C. Almost everything is on it now (headphones, earbuds, battery bank, laptop, GoPro, drone…) except my iPhone and an old, mini keyboard/touchpad.
You are describing the problem they are trying to solve.
Except instead of solving it they’re making it worse. I have to replace everything now.
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I can believe it if the only devices you have upgraded in the last 5 years is your iphone. Everything else has been on usb C for a while. Including mac books, iPads, android phones, windows laptops and even game consoles
iPad bought 2 years ago and iPhone this year are the only major wireless devices I own. Bought my first Gen AirPods Pro’s years ago. All of them are on lightning.
My laptop is from 2017 and I really don’t plan on updating it. I’m a PC gamer, so wireless stuff isn’t something I see or buy frequently. Everything is hardwired with USB-B when I get things.
Yeah you might be the only one. Btw your laptop can also charge over USB-C instead of the barrel jack.
You could buy one high powered usb charger and attach a USBC to lighting adapter to the end of it and you’ll only have to carry one charger when traveling.
Btw your laptop can also charge over USB-C instead of the barrel jack.
Charging laptops through type C is one of the biggest conveniences ever introduced. Now I don’t even want to take my 2015 notebook from my in-law (despite being faster) because I can’t hook it into an all-in-one dock unlike my 2021 lappie.
Laptop actively loses power when plugged into the monitor, so not really.
I barely travel. It’s about replacing the 10+ chargers I have in my house, car, work and bags. I also don’t get the want for one charger. It’s annoying as hell to only have 1 charger. I’d rather have an individual one for every device tbh
It’s less about having one physical charger and more about having one charging cable standard so you’re not wanting for one cable when you mistakenly grabbed another…. You can have 50 charging cables and 50 bricks for all 50 of your devices if you’d like. The convenience comes with the fact that they all take the same connector. Standardization simplifies life and actually will make upgrading cheaper because you’re not locked into a proprietary standard.
I can completely empathize with not wanting to update all of your chargers, but as someone who has recently gone through part of it, I’m 110% onboard with everything being unified like this.
I like everything having their own tbh. Everything has its own charger in a specific spot. I don’t really find any convenience in having one connector. I genuinely would rather have individual connectors.
I like being able to use my the same charger universally with my and my families:
- Steam Deck
- iPads
- PlayStation 5 controllers
- XBOX Series X Controllers
- Laptops
- Phone power banks
- Magsafe Charger
- Nintendo Switches
- Beats Fit Pro
- Samsung Galaxy Tabs
I detest the:
- Shitty USB 2.0 Lightning cable
This is great stuff.
Honestly I can say I have none of those things. My (brand new 2-3 years ago) iPad is still lightning.
Lightning works great as a power delivery system. That’s all I need it for, and it does that as well as I need.
That’s just you then, dude.
I mean I definitely travel with more than one, but it’s nice knowing that I don’t have to worry about forgetting to pack a specific charger for that one specific thing and only realizing it when it’s too late.
Your monitor might not be supplying your laptop with power, but that doesn’t mean it can’t do it. If it can output to a display, then it is a thunderbolt port and can definitely charge it.
Monitor can’t provide enough power for the laptop. It was explicitly labeled as not power delivery when I bought the monitor. The output isn’t enough to charge a 2017 gaming laptop with a D-GPU.
I mean, we knew they were going to have to make usb-c phones since the EU and the Saudis both are going to require it. And they’ve been making usb-c iPads for a while, I have a hundred of them at work
EU, India and SA in the order.
India successfully forced Google to adjust Play Store to allow third-party stores inside the repo.
Apple knew it too. Even without pressure from the EU’s upcoming laws around USBC, they knew we would all riot if they clung to Lightning. iPads, Macs, have all moved on.
Just. USBC all the things. Let me die in a world with one fucking cable. Please. Can we at least do that as a society?
C’mon, Apple doesn’t give a shit if people riot over USB.
The ONLY reason this is happening is regulation. Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could. Compatibility with other hardware does not matter to a company with a fully closed ecosystem like Apple.
Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could.
Nah, eventually they’d replace it with another shitty proprietary cable
Oh I think you overstate forever a bit. They’re 100% gonna go wireless before long.
It’s really frustrating how stubborn and backward Apple has been with the iPhone. It’s 100% just so they can use a proprietary cable.
The crazy thing is they were on the consortium that helped develop USB-C and had one of the very first computers to even have the port! MacBook Pros were ALL USB-C at a time when there were close to zero accessory makers supporting the then brand new cable.
Anyway, extremely happy that lightning will finally die.
Am I one of the few who is not a big fan of USB C on phones? I’ve had the ports on multiple phones go bad. They get filled with pocket crud and are extremely difficult to clean out. Never had this issue with lightning. Wish there was some sort of magnetic charging standard. Wireless is good but its just slow.
I have had dozens of devices with USB C and have personally have never had this issue. On the other hand, I used to work at an Apple repair shop and have seen plenty lightning ports filled with lint.
They even begin to implement it in some beats products before going all usb-c.
Incoming proprietary cable that won’t let you data transfer or charge beyond 5w if you use a generic one.
Is that allowed with the EU regulations?
I’m kind of surprised they didn’t just drop a pretty altogether and rely on mag-safe and airdrop.
I think that might have been the plan years ago, might even still be long term. I think people like Ive really like the idea of a portless device and they were trying to get there but the realities of wireless charging and connectivity have gotten in the way.
AirPower proved to be so much trouble they just scrapped it, MagSafe has been a hit but real world charging speed is a lot slower than wired. Plus people love CarPlay and most don’t have wireless capable cars. Apple probably realize full wireless is not going to be ready in the near future and have put plans on hold.
I hope they don’t do that until they force car manufacturers to be using wireless CarPlay for years. If they drop a port, a lot of car owners won’t be able to use CarPlay.
As a workaround, there are wireless adapters for carplay.
Know of any good ones? I have one but it kept crashing and when it didnt it had a 4 second delay.
Incredible, it looks exactly like a USB-C port.
Lightning-C!
USB-C?!
On a phone?!
The Apple Magic🪄 has outdone itself this time. No one has ever seen anything like this before. This is the biggest technological innovation since Apple invented oled screens on phones in 2017.
Mind = blown
Apple has always supported USB C. There is no war in Cupertino.
“We all know you’re going to love it”
Thanks European Union ❤️
The Brussels effect: the burssels effect
The term Brussels effect was coined in 2012 by Professor Anu Bradford of Columbia Law School[1][2][3] and named after the similar California Effect that can be seen within the United States.
The Brussels effect is the process of unilateral regulatory globalisation caused by the European Union de facto (but not necessarily de jure) externalising its laws outside its borders through market mechanisms.
The California effect is the shift of consumer, environmental and other regulations in the direction of political jurisdictions with stricter regulatory standards. The name is derived from the spread of some advanced environmental regulatory standards that were originally adopted by the U.S. state of California and eventually adopted in other states.
The Brussels/California effects are when the EU/California make a law that applies to the EU/California but for various reasons is followed globally/across the US
Can’t wait for them to sell USB-C as some groundbreaking new innovation of theirs!
The next Apple event going to be mid 😂
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Don’t throw them out yet if they work flawlessly. Give them to someone you know or just leave them somewhere. Also, you might need your old iPhone for some reason and so you should probably keep one (possibly semi-broken) cable.
The fact that they had to be legally forced to do this shows that users were never in their best interest.
It would be pretty big if true. End of an era.
Horrible implementation of it though
Interesting? How so?
Use google, if you don’t use an apple certified cable you’ll get slow charging n slow data transfer etc
Do we have what specs they’re planning on supporting?
Ok. Now I just need to replace my expensive headphones when those come out, and I’ll be free of lightening. I’m guess it won’t be for a while, as ok don’t like replacing expensive things with minor updates.
Need iPhone 16 or 17 with a waterproof replaceable battery so I can swap batteries while camping. Not needing to fuss with solar chargers would be awesome.
Just get a powerbank
Great. Now do RCS
RCS is not an open standard, it’s just Google’s version of iMessage and it all goes through their servers. Stop regurgitating Google propaganda
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It might be owned by someone else, but google is the only one pushing it and the only one supporting it. Technically it’s open, but it’s googles standard.
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Does anything outside of Google use this standard? I haven’t even heard of open source apps that use it. The only major player backing it is google. It’s their standard, just like iMessage is apples.
The whole iMessage/RCS conversation is really only relevant in the US; in other countries basically everyone uses WhatsApp or Kakao or LINE or whatever the local favorite is. In the US, there is no industry-standard RCS. It’s theoretically a carrier-based messaging service but all of the carriers outsourced it to Google so, as an alternative to iMessage, the option is a proprietary extension of RCS running on Google servers, something that is exactly as open as iMessage itself.
If you want a true industry standard way to send messages to people, the iPhone has had that since 2007: email.
Email requires a costly data plan however, a big disadvantage to SMS based messaging.
I think it’s still very relevant to everyone else. An open standard is better than a closed system like WhatsApp.
One day we’ll wonder why we let so much get tangled up in single companies. You’d think Twitter would wake people up.
RCS the open standard is missing critical features. Google’s implementation fixes that, but is not open. I don’t think we should give a pass to RCS just because it’s open. SMS is a legacy format but it’s unconscionable these days to release a new messaging platform without E2E encryption. That’s a minimum viable product feature, not a maybe nice to have in the future feature.
Is there any open source SMS app that supports RCS right now?
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RCS is an Open standard. Companies have just been dumb with it
It’s a bit more complicated than that unfortunately. RCS wasn’t made by Google, but they did join the GSMA that manages it. They are pushing it as an alt/war against iMessage, but it doesn’t go through their servers as far as i know, it’s still a Mobile Operator service (like SMS), so it goes through your provider (and I guess Google’s if you use Google Fi).
I kinda think the smart thing for Apple to do is to implement RCS support (make the bubbles orange/purple or something) and then they’ve done it and can continue working on iMessage if they like.
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But it’s still google backed, google developed and google centric. There’s no way Apple will implement a competitors standard.
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A 5 second search could’ve told you the exact opposite of what you said. Maybe check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Google version or Verizons version or samsungs version or… lmfao
End to end encryption shouldve been enforced by RCS theres no point for apple to implement it when android hasnt even made it so anyone can make an rcs app with E2EE by default other than Google