You should ask the Gazans how Hitlerian they think Biden is if there’s any left
Dude fuck off, I’m sorry but there is no viable “tell Israel to get fucked” candidate. Biden isn’t bombing Gaza personally, the US military isn’t bombing Gaza. The GOP has showed they staunchly want to see it escalate and wipe Gaza off the map completely, this is a holy proxy war for them. Israel and its genocide has overwhelming support in US politics. None of this makes it right, but it does make it not a relevant issue in this presidential race.
You don’t pick a candidate that shares every belief and opinion as you. You vote for the candidate which will do the least harm and the most good and only the frontrunners count as candidates and you know it.
It’s nice to see that some people will morally compromise for “just a little genocide”, either enacted or enabled (which is functionally the exact same). Must be so convenient and freeing to be so absent the weight of a conscience.
It must be so freeing to live a life so simple and ignorant that you think your little world can be zero harm and morally perfect while living a lifestyle that would be remotely sustainable for the world. The world is a big and scary place and a democracy is made up of a myriad of perspectives on the world. We all do the best we can with the choices we have. To pretend that we can accomplish anything by refusing to participate in an imperfect system is absurd fantasy.
By all means protest, organize etc toward noble goals. But don’t act like “both candidates bad, myeh” is a real stance.
If both candidates support genocide then my moral line in the sand is crossed, no reasonable person who’s against genocide can vote for either. But if genocide is on your list of ok things, then I’m sure it’s a very complicated issue for you.
Don’t worry, your mother and I will teach you about the basics about morality when you’re an adult.
This is pretty fundamental trolley problem stuff. If one choice kills 10 million and the other choice kills 5 million but protects the other 5 million, you refusing to participate entirely isn’t a noble stand, it’s saying you don’t give a shit about the other 5 million.
I care too much about these vulnerable people to help these other vulnerable people while not actually helping the other vulnerable people is just being an idiot.
The truth is, you didn’t need to convince me. I think Biden is a monster. The meme is a set of jokes written in the voice of a mainstream American political pundit, not a genuine reflection of my personal attitudes.
My personal attitudes are that every US president is a war criminal, and Biden, Bush, Cheney, and Blinken should be hauled off to the international criminal court.
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He seems to get along with Obama and kamela Harris fine.
Ah yes
The “Some of my best employees are black” argumentYeah. You’re right. He and his vp doesn’t even get along
No wait, that’s Trump…
Again, there’s no evidence suggesting he’s racist. But I guess if you throw enough crap at the wall, some might stick…
Accusing the only one who hasn’t participated in genocide as the real monster is dumb as fuck
this escalated with him moving the embassy.
I get where you’re coming from, but the meme is a joke, and this particular set of jokes doesn’t work if you do it that way.
This ain’t a joke, it’s a pictorial opinion
He didn’t have the chance yet, but once he has it, he will genocide domestically
Nevermind he already had the chance and didn’t.
Biden at least kinda softly sorta sometimes pushes back a little bit on Israel. Whereas Trump literally proactively decided to recognise the illegally occupied Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
They’re both bad, but one is worse, and it’s not the one you’re suggesting.
I agree with you… but I don’t disagree with @john_mcmurray.
The fact that Biden actually participates in genocide at all is just ghastly. I honestly struggle to find the words for it. And once he crossed that bridge, I will never ever try to argue with someone who assigns him equal moral equivalence with Trump.
It’s like debating whether someone who killed one of your children is better than someone who killed two. Mathematically? I think so. Conceptually? Those are who child murderers. The difference is negligible.
There are still Palestinians alive right now, though, so we can’t give up, no matter how heartbroken.
Thank you for showing me how simple and shallow the American mind is…
Kamala is literally a Hitler. Woman openly laughs at forced labor prisoner slavery. The difference between the actual nazis and her office as DA is that they targeted blacks and browns instead of jews. Idk why so many cucks are fangirling over her rn
I was unable to find anything about that. Could you please link me your source?
https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/
She repeatedly fought to keep non violent criminals locked up in inhumane conditions explicitly for their labor capacity. CA makes big money selling slave labor @ $0.75/hr paid to the inmate.
She is descended from Jamaican slave owners, probably with slave ancestry mixed in. You’d think it’d be an easy slam dunk win for hee to eradicate slavery in the US but the money too good. She got bought.
I grew up in Oakland, as DA she would put people in prison for weed. These same people were in prison after legalization, and their crimes were not black market dealers or anything like that. Just regular dudes who wanted to smoke up.
It’s unfortunate. She has not been particularly great at doing what her constituents wanted.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/13/923369723/lets-talk-about-kamala-harris
This article does a pretty good job conveying how her policies were inherently conflicts of interest, but in short, The “Back on Track” program for non-violent first time offenders was primarily for people with weed convictions. The idea is that they would admit to the crime, become a felon, have their record expunged.
Now, how exactly does non-violent weed crime exists during a time where California has it legalized? And she took a long time to come around on legalization itself. The answer? It doesn’t, she has gotten the nickname “top cop” as a prosecutor and has law enforcement as her main supporters as she lost support from progressive Democrats for her actions.
Now, I don’t dismiss her entirely, but I’m not entirely trusting of her either. She doesn’t have the history to indicate she would suddenly flip and be super progressive. That said, when she has a conviction, she does stick to it. Early in her career as district attorney she vehemently opposed and fought against the death penalty - to which Diane Feinsteinn criticized and said she wouldn’t have supported her had she known this.
All this to say - she has accomplished a great deal, but it has been because of how many she has thrown under the bus. That makes it difficult to trust that we wouldn’t just be thrown under the bus again.
Edit: Wrote all this before learning Biden dropped out. Wow!
Oh man, I learned that he dropped out from your comment lmao 😅
This is a common layman misconception. The term “hitler” isn’t actually based on how much the candidate engages in human rights abuses: it’s just a marker of how widely voters recognize them as “hitler-y” (to use the technical term).
A fun fact: within the field of meme political science it’s recognized that if we did apply a quantitative rubric, ALL of the US Presidents are actually hitlers!
Nahhhhhh we had a black guy once. Can’t have a black Hitler. Would kamala be the black Irma grese then? Pretty sure you can totally have a black Irma grese
Honestly not gonna lie, I wish Hitler was a even weaker candidate than he is today.
Nah, I’m pretty sure that at least half the population would vote for a literal Hitler.
Half the population doesn’t even vote tbh
Also very true, disenfranchisement is all time high since a lot of people are starting to realize that they live under a dictatorship of capital.
Adonald Hitrump
Perfect.
And so… It begins.
I imagine Trump has only a partial check there. He’s not any young, just seems to be hiding that fact better.
I didn’t say young. I said he is “somehow alive”.
There’s a slurry of drugs keeping the Jonestown dreamsicle on his feet, I don’t know if he’s any more alive than an LLM at this point. He’s certainty less cogent than one.
At least Biden is still just running in “old human” mode.
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Sadly, all the candidates are very big cops.
Didn’t she work as a prosecutor? A literal prosecutor, vs a literal criminal, might be able to make an effective dichotomy of democracy vs fascism in (somehow) still undecided voters.
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(For clarity, I agree with you lol)
the reboot of XENA WARRIOR PRINCESS* we all wanted to see.
*Mary Walsh letting out an evil “I told you so” kackle
Mark Kelly.
Navy Pilot, Navy Captain, Astronaut, Senator, husband of Gabby Giffords, twin brother of Scott Kelly with similar resumé, and he’s only 60. He and his brother can each win two terms and still be younger than Trump is now.
He also flips red states blue: he’s pretty much the only Democrat who has won anything in Arizona in decades.
Or Adam Schiff
Adam Schiff is a lawyer and California Democrat. He would easily win the blue states, but so would about 30 million other Democrats.
The red states will hate him, and he’s opposed by BLM, so he won’t be competitive in the swing states either.
There’s nothing special about him.
That’s fair. I’d vote for him, but then again I’d vote for a soggy roll of single-ply toilet paper over Trump.
Seriously, try being the candidate talking shit about an astronaut and decorated servicemember. “I like people who stay on Earth.” Well I don’t!
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He could retort by saying that he was obeying gravity, but falling continuously towards the earth while traveling at a speed that kept him from hitting the ground.
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“only 60” - the depressing state of politics. There’s a good amount of places where you’d retire before completing a single term at that age.
And the reality is modern medical science has made 60 the new 50.
Which kinda works. because modern education has made 20 the new 14.
/s
//class wars are awesome!Agreed. I’m rather tired of the nation being run by workaholics. I want to retire someday. I want a candidate who shares that value, and builds a nation where I can do that.
Ideally, I think the oldest a candidate should be is 57 at the beginning of their first term, so that they retire from professional politics by 65.
That being said, no candidate is ever going to be perfect, and, he’s still 24 years better than the current option.
Good thing China has a number of honey trap spies. I’m sure Schiff will be eager to tell them all the dirty, dirty secrets of a US President
100% has my vote
nope, he’s too bald. can’t be havin that
Mark Kelly as Kamala’s VP? Having that balance of ethnicity would help her get the votes. It’s exactly why Obama picked Biden
Kelly’s “blue” credentials are sound, and his history will appeal to many otherwise “red” voters. He is a real threat to poach votes from Trump’s base in red and swing states.
Harris can’t do that. She’s a lawyer, and everyone hates lawyers.
But nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket. Harris/Kelly loses; Kelly/Harris wins.
I’ve actually been casting him as VP in my head for like four weeks now.
I think it’s more likely than Biden being president next year, so fingers crossed.
Harris will get steamrolled by either Trump or Vance; Kelly wipes the floor with both of them. I think Kelly needs to be on the top of the ticket, and Harris needs to step down as well.
Did you not read the graph? She’s a lock.
I mean, Kelly is a lock too. Anyone who can fog a mirror and doesn’t get an erection watching Starship Troopers will win this election. But Harris is kind of right there already, so that works for me. She could probably keep using the same email address and business cards. That’s a nice plus.
Unfortunately I think casting away Kamala as the pick would do more harm than good. She is the likely candidate. Joe can even make the transition smooth by entrusting the rest of his legacy with her, which is the reason he chose her as a VP in the first place.
People also know the name Kamala Harris, and they’ve known it for years now. It’ll be a huge turn to bring in a new candidate on top and do all of the rallying needed to get votes.
I think Kamala’s success will spend on the VP choice, her administration, and her campaign team more than her herself.
She doesn’t have a significant enough presence to challenge Trump. People may know her name, but they couldn’t pick her out of a lineup.
Kelly just has to stand there while being introduced as “Astronaut” or “Fighter Pilot” to remind everyone that Trump hasn’t actually done anything with his life.
I am really enjoying the idea of using the phrase “original Hitler” in much the same way as someone might refer to original sin.
