Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has issued a dire warning to her party about the chaos that could ensue if they succeed in pushing President Joe Biden off the ticket. And she criticized Democrats who’ve given off-the-record quotes that suggest the party has resigned itself to a second Trump term.
In an Instagram Live video on Thursday, Ocasio-Cortez warned liberals that a brokered convention could lead to chaos, in part because she says some of the Democratic “elites” who want Biden out also don’t want Vice President Kamala Harris as the nominee in his place.
“If you think that is going to be an easy transition, I’m here to tell you that a huge amount of the donor class and these elites who are pushing for the president not to be the nominee also do not want to see the VP be the nominee,” she said.
Ocasio-Cortez claimed none of the people she’s spoken with who are calling on Biden to drop out — including lawmakers and legal experts — have articulated a plan to swap out the nominee without minimizing the serious legal and procedural challenges that are likely to ensue.
Ocasio-Cortez also highlighted the racial, ethnic and class divisions that appear to have formed between the majority of those pining to blow up the ticket — led mostly by white Democrats and media pundits — and those elected officials who feel they and their constituents have too much at stake to upend the process at this point and so are willing to do the work to re-elect Biden-Harris. She alluded to this cultural divide in her video when she spoke out against anonymous sources expressing a sense of fatalism on behalf of Democrats about what might happen if Biden remains on the ticket:
What I will say is what upsets me is [Democrats] saying we will lose. For me, to a certain extent, I don’t care what name is on there. We are not losing. I don’t know about you, but my community does not have the option to lose. My community does not have the luxury of accepting loss in July of an election year. My people are the first ones deported. They’re the first ones put in Rikers. They’re the first ones whose families are killed by war.
So you were saying?
Newsom/Kelly 2024
Go big or go home.
Goin home see ya
Later 👍
I guess Biden is the ship and the rest of the party is going down with him.
Fucking finally a progressive with some sense (I say this as a progressive myself).
We need to be real here, this isn’t a fucking joke.
But… Now hear me out. I’m a mostly lifelong Democrat who is tired of seeing this system get more and more corrupt each cycle. Maybe this capitalist system needs a reboot. I’m losing hope that any candidate the DNC runs is going to fix any of what needs fixing.
It’s almost as if they’ve actually already quietly conceded defeat and are just backfilling the position out of, fuck I don’t know, adherence to decorum? I hope I’m just jaded but I have a bad feeling about it.
I think JD Vance is representative of where the moneyed interests are right now in regards to the election. They don’t like Trumpism, but they see the Democrats as weak and compromised by economic progressivism. As much as they don’t like Trumpism, they hate progressive economic policies, like increasing taxes for the rich, much more. Moneyed interests see that Biden is a weak candidate, that there’s not really another Democrat who’s stronger, and they want to distance themselves from progressive economic policies as much as possible, so they’re going all in on Trump and just hoping they can get him and the Republicans to become less extreme and move nearer to the center.
I think Trump will win the election, with the support of these moneyed interests. However, I think they are taking a huge risk betting that Trump and the Republicans will moderate their politics. If they’re wrong, they might be about to unleash a monster they won’t be able to control. If Trump and the GOP generally do moderate, they will lose the support of the far right, who will feel betrayed and may react violently.
I don’t think moneyed interest give a shit about progressivism as a whole, but the “tax the rich” components of progressivism scare the bejesus out of them.
However, I think they are taking a huge risk betting that Trump and the Republicans will moderate their politics. If they’re wrong, they might be about to unleash a monster they won’t be able to control.
I agree. Oligarchs are playing with fire here. If we go full fascism, money won’t protect you from the violence of the state anymore. Your fortune 500 company, your mansions, your cars, your bank account, any and all can be seized to support the fascist regime. And if you protest, no matter how high your former social standing, you’ll get sent to a camp.
Well hey, the roman empire had a pretty good run for a bit. Let’s roll the dice and see /s
In all seriousness I don’t know how America as a country can survive giving presidential authority to a insurrectionist figure head and open political pawn. There’s a point where you realise the political institutions do not and have not ever served your best interests and that sh*t always ends badly.
the “tax the rich” components of progressivism scare the bejesus out of them.
It’s not the “taxing” the rich that has them concerned. They see us sharpening our spoons.
No… They don’t even see us as shadows anymore. We barely make an impact. Attempts to fight back are crushed by a self regulating system of oppression and order. They may commit to performative acts that make the rich look like they know what’s going on but they couldn’t be bothered to care to think about if we are actually coming for them cause they are so detached from it all. Just look at the panic on their face anytime someone actually slips through the cracks and gets even near one of their yachts.
They only see the big game being over and not being able to buy whatever they want and do anything they feel like to make a buck.
They aren’t scared of us. Why should they be? Everything is designed to protect them.
I don’t think moneyed interest give a shit about progressivism as a whole, but the “tax the rich” components of progressivism scare the bejesus out of them.
Yeah, that’s what I meant.
‘Could lead to chaos’. Ma’am, that ship has sailed. When even high ranking party members openly doubt the president’s ability to get elected, much less actually lead, you’ve clearly lost control of the situation.
Will replacing Biden at this stage be easy? Of course not. But he shouldn’t have been in the Oval Office in the first place. Running a candidate this frail once was a gamble… doing it twice is suicidal.
Democrat leadership only has itself to blame for this predicament.
When I voted in the primary, there was one name on the ballot: Joe Biden. Anybody who thinks that was a free and fair election is on crack.
There were states with multiple people on the ticket and Biden won them hands down.
Why did some states have multiple people and some only one?
Because there were no serious candidates who filed because the message from party leadership was clear: the incumbent is running, it’s his.
Every state has their own way of doing primaries, is the short answer. Probably people were eligible to run in some states but not in others for varies reasons.
Hopefully someone else chimes in with a better answer than I could give.
Honestly, I’ll vote for whomever is on the Democratic tricket. Normally, I would seek the highest quality to be at the top of the ticket. But the other ticket is Trump/Vance. So, yes, I will vote for the ticket that runs against Trump. I vote for a party and for policies. Not a person.
Edit: Looks like Pres Biden left the race.
She turned me around. I’m riding with Biden. I’m serious. I hope the Democrats don’t fuck this up even more. If Kamala can’t taker her rightful place without the donors get in the way then fuck them all. I’m voting for a mentally compromised candidate. I hate this system.
I’m voting for a mentally compromised candidate.
Not if they yank him off the ticket, first. That’s been half the joke of this election.
Biden was never seriously primaried, even as people like Dean Phillips were screaming about his collapsing mental state. Now we’re days out from the Dem convention and suddenly people want to do a quicky re-vote? Its too late you assholes. You blew it.
I’m with AOC that a contested convention will almost certainly produce some kind of horrid ghoul like Joe Manchin at the top of the ticket. Curious to see how disposable the party has Kamala. But the idea that Biden is somehow worth defending is asinine. Backing Biden as he deteriorates in real time is a bad move by AOC and won’t be repaid even if Biden does win the election, because he’s always been a corporate creature with no love for a couple of Brooklyn leftists like AOC and Sanders.
A Manchin that wins is better than an ideal candidate that loses.
Man… I don’t even know anymore. Manchin has only remained a Democrat due to the deep history of unions in his state. He’s the definition of DINO.
If he no longer needed to only worry about the votes of West Virginians, he could drop the farce altogether, and switch parties as soon as he’s sworn in (or at the very least, rule as a Republican would have, and cripple the Democrats in our legislative branch).
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/biden-west-wing-aaron-sorkin.html
But there’s something the Democrats can do that would not just put a lump in people’s throats with its appeal to stop-Donald-Trump-at-all-costs unity, but with its originality and sense of sacrifice. So here’s my pitch to the writers’ room: The Democratic Party should pick a Republican.
At their convention next month, the Democrats should nominate Mitt Romney.
Nominating Mr. Romney would be putting our money where our mouth is: a clear and powerful demonstration that this election isn’t about what our elections are usually about it, but about stopping a deranged man from taking power. Surely Mr. Romney, who doesn’t have to be introduced to voters, would peel off enough Republican votes to win, probably by a lot. The double haters would be turned into single haters and the Nikki Haley voters would have somewhere to go, Ms. Haley having disqualified herself when she endorsed the leader of an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the government.
Does Mr. Romney support abortion rights? No. Does he want to aggressively raise the minimum wage, bolster public education, strengthen unions, expand transgender rights and enact progressive tax reform? Probably not. But is he a cartoon thug who did nothing but watch TV while the mob he assembled beat and used Tasers on police officers? No. The choice is between Donald Trump and not-Trump, and the not-Trump candidate needs only one qualification: to win enough votes from a cross section of Americans to close off the former president’s Electoral College path back to power.
Samesies, thank you.
Dammit Marvin you depressed dipshit, I hate it when you’re right.
She needs to sit down and shut the fuck up. If Biden stays in, there is 100% certainty that Trump is going to win.
My people are the first ones deported. They’re the first ones put in Rikers. They’re the first ones whose families are killed by war.
Im sure she still has some of those crocodile tears she shed at the border for them.
You don’t know that. You are just a blow hard.
You’re being generous.
Math isnt too hard, and right now the math is not in Biden’s favor
“You see, Joe, the numbers don’t lie. And they spell disaster for you.”
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I was surprised at the comment until I saw who made it.
Yeah bruh, we’re totally fucked. Brandon could have saved us by fucking off voluntarily. But no, he’s just another cunt politician with a god complex.
Thanks for the fascist hellscape, Brandon. So glad you did your goodest.
Downvote away and continue wishing for the best instead of accepting what is obvious.
Yeah, the fact that college kids getting beaten up by cops over Palestinian genocide didn’t prompt this crisis of confidence in Biden but the donor class getting upset makes it dominate the airwaves is really annoying, but not at all surprising.
At the end of the day, whoever has the best chance of beating Trump should be our nominee whether it’s Biden or somebody else
What I will say is what upsets me is [Democrats] saying we will lose. For me, to a certain extent, I don’t care what name is on there. We are not losing. I don’t know about you, but my community does not have the option to lose. My community does not have the luxury of accepting loss in July of an election year. My people are the first ones deported. They’re the first ones put in Rikers. They’re the first ones whose families are killed by war.
This was really well said and echoes my feelings exactly
Who accepts loss months before the election when the other guy is already saying they won’t accept loss months after the election?
The average voter doesn’t particularly care about Palestine. You don’t have to like it but it’s true. But when tens of millions of people watch Biden self destruct live on stage, that’s a big deal (to both elites and everyday peoole).
No shit. The time for not backing Biden was in the last primary. If the Democrats weren’t so fucking short sighted and power hungry, they would have had a primary all of last year instead of now having to back this geriatric horse against a geriatric, racist, fascist, horse in this race.
That said, I’ll be voting for the geriatric horse because the alternative will end up getting my minority ass killed.
Biden just stepped down for elections
Yeah, just saw that on my news feed. While I applaud and massively respect him stepping down, it’s way late for this I’m my opinion, especially with this dragging out.
Democrats put themselves in a no win situation with this and while I’m still going to vote for not the geriatric, racist, fascist, cocaine addled horse, the rest of America probably won’t after Republicans tar the entire Democratic party as incompetent.
i’ve decided to turn around. i’m ridin with biden!
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The way ili see it is., the “far left” crowd are demanding sparkling water and refuse to drink from the tap with everyone else-
And not only this, but they intend to destroy the tap so no one else can drink from it because it doesn’t provide what they feel they are entitled to. Regardless of what everyone else feels or wants.
And the irony is- they cry and whine about how America should be a socialist system, but feel that their needs should be met by the government, and don’t care about what everyone wants as a whole.
And what they don’t understand is, whoever ends up in the White House- will be playing the same fucking game Biden did. Because that’s how politics work. It’s negotiation and co promise.
But they’d rather watch America burn than even try to accept this fundamental truth.
It’s obvious you haven’t taken even a moment to try to understand what the “far left” wants…
And as I’ve said before- I’m not talking about the legit FAR LEFT. I’ve no problem with them. I’m taking about the “far left.” By that I mean MAGA trolls that are here in bad faith to urge people not to vote I. Support of Trump.
There’s a HUGE difference.
Dudes mixed up his left and right…
People calling themselves left while being right isn’t mixing things up. It’s just knowing better.
it’s being a moron.
Yep. Being right while calling yourself left isn’t very smart, I’d agree- but that’s where we are now.
How does this rant in any way relate to this story? I’m getting really big “old man yells at cloud” vibes here.
How does it relate? How doesn’t it?
Well they just succeeded. So what now?
Probably lose after they put themselves in the untenable position.
Yeah, sticking with the guy who is losing in all the polls and can’t speak would have been a much better option.
Democrats pretty much put America in a lose-lost situation here. There’s is no good option here.
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Whoever replaces Biden will still immediately get the “I would vote for a literal hamster instead of Trump” crowd which is like 40% of the nation.
That was the only vote that Biden had sewn up. Everyone else was fleeing for the exits.
Confirmed, would vote for a literal hamster at this point.
Oh you mean reasonable people
Yeah, because the “Anyone But Bush” strategy worked so well.
That’s an absurd comparison. This election has nothing in common with Bush’s second election. Bush never would have survived a 10th of Trumps bullshit, he nearly got impeached for politicizing the DOJ using a litmus test. Fairly insignificant in comparison to Trump trying to blackmail Ukraine, and starting the jan 6 insurrection.
Keep deluding yourselves that simply going “Republican is bad” as your only strategy while offering nothing, you’re going to continue to lose election after election because the American electorate has never responded well to that.
But yeah, Democrats have some such a bang up fucking job of losing the House and now leading America down this absolute shit show of political genius here mid-election. Some great political strategy at work.
Can you hear other people when they talk, or are you just waiting for your turn?
It worked in 2020.
I’m just stating the absolute floor.
That was pre-Tea Party
Boooo
What untenable position?
They have no idea, just doomer division talk
Switching to someone with a 40% chance is better than sticking with a 26% chance.
Probably Kamala.
Not ideal but then again the Democrats have a history of making stupid-ass decisions.
Now we get to find out if she’s right or not
This is illogical. That’s impossible to know unless you have a looking glass into the alternate timeline where Biden doesn’t drop out, as well as the timelines of different people replacing him.
Or you can look at basic probability. I could totally end up being wrong, but I find it incredibly unlikely that the DNC will nominate anyone but Kamala. They (hopefully) realize they need to get their shit together and choose a candidate ASAP.
Even if Kamala is the only alternative, my point is that Kamala losing doesn’t mean Joe would have won, and her winning doesn’t mean he would have lost.
