• OptionalOP
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      yeah I copied it from your mom.

      NO I didn’t copy it and make it ugly FFS I stole it from someone else on the interwebs as is tradition. Nice job.

    • @[email protected]
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      Is any other country a democracy? I thought for it to be a democracy you needed “everyone” to vote for every law rather than electing representatives.

      • @[email protected]
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        You’re thinking of a direct democracy. The modern term is a catch all for everything from that to limited democracies that require things like land ownership to vote.

    • OptionalOP
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      You’re foolin’ yourself. We’re living in a dictatorship! And how’d we get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.

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    I have some ideas about what we should do with Musk and Trump, but they’re against instance rules

    • GladiusB
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      He also planned to have a bulletproof window cyber truck. He should plan to get his head surgically removed from his ass. Since that is apparently where it’s been for a decade.

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        No, he should throw a bag of money at a deaf proctologist who doesn’t use social media.

        If he had a say over the operation, after 3-5 years they’d end up shoving a robotic arm up there so he could tweet faster

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      Fortunately he’s one of only a hundred or so people evil enough to be a billionaire.

      Good thing there aren’t any more evil people than that, given all it takes is the willingness to be evil enough to make billions.

      • Todd Bonzalez
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        There are 756 billionaires in the USA, 2,781 in the world.

        They are propped up on the efforts of tens of millions of immoral ultracapitalists all clamoring for a piece of the pie, willing to exploit the labor of billions of people to hoard as much global capital at the top of the chain as they can.

        Don’t underestimate the evil of capitalism.

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    I was waiting for someone to bring this up, it would be hilarious if Biden does something to put a wrench in this plan as a last FU to the republicans

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      Now that he’s not running he can do a lot of last fuck yous and take the grenade for them. Don’t know if he will.

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    “Elon Musk says” not a Elon fan but where did he say that? I have only seen them say “Sources close to”. If he actually does it and we have records yes it is bad. But right now it’s just a rumor.

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      No problem. You can be on that side, believing all the same stuff, and only be against the more extreme methods of group-based self-deception. It’s just bad internal intelligence methods. No biggie. The core philosophy’s still sound, I’m sure.

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          WASHINGTON, July 15 (Reuters) - Billionaire Elon Musk has said he plans to commit around $45 million a month to a new pro-Trump super political-action committee, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the matter.

          So you object to the WSJ, and/or their not-naming their source.

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            No, I object to no paper trails or direct videos or quotes from Elon himself saying he will do it. They don’t even have a email transaction log or call log to show he has been in contact with the super pac.

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              Isn’t it the case that the superPAC doesn’t have to reveal its donors?

  • @[email protected]
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    How long you suppose the economy can recover if we ban billionaires and rule that they share their profits rather than hoard them?

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    I’m not American. Can someone explain how they are ‘allowed’ to do this? Similarly, how is the war chest created?

    • OptionalOP
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      The Supreme Court declared money to be “free speech” and therefore protected by the first amendment. Therefore, if you are a billionaire and wish to throw elections to a fascist of your choice, that is protected speech.

      The case is referred to as Citizens United. It’s also the source of the phrase “corporations are people, my friend” as it affords first amendment protections to corporations which are not people. Except in the crooked eyes of the fascist Supreme Court majority.

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      Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert did a lovely series about this.

      But in short, Donating millions to Trump. Illegal. Donating millions to Trump PAC. Legal. Trump can not spend Trump PAC money directly. Trump can say “boy I wish I had millions of dollars in political ads in a specific states at specific times about these specific topics.” Trump can also get pretty specific about the details.

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      Short version: strategically place judges at all levels of jurisdiction, bring cases in front of them that upend protections aimed at preventing exactly that type of oligarchic power buying and thus rewrite the laws through these hoops until Freedom of Speech is conflated with buying elections.

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      You see, despite appearances, companies are actually people. Not in a real, people kind of way. Specifically, in a “the best of both for them” kind of way.

      Then was have to remember that paying to circumvent and unduly influence democracy is, we’re to beleive, “free speech ^^^^tm” and, contrary to any and all logic, is actually very democratic. Then you have to remember that there aint no limit on freedom in America, baby!

      If that doesn’t make sense to you then you’re a freedom hating commie.

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      The distinction is that a Super PAC, is explicitly NOT for the direct benefit of a candidate: it’s for the donors to use their free speech to publish messages of their choice.

      It’s legal hair-splitting

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    If only a liberal could become a billionaire.

    But, they have morals and don’t want to ruin people’s lives on the way to the top.

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    I really wonder why so many of the super-rich back Trump. He has a really bad track record when it comes to honoring contracts, let alone promises. Add to it that he already tried to overthrow democracy, in which case your campaign contributions would become worthless the moment he manages to seize power.

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      Dude, Trump got them their tax cut. He gave them billions in shady covid money. He appointed anti union judges. He’s done a phenomenal job for billionaires, just like every Republican president.

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        What I mean is that he clearly has ambitions to become a dictator, as seen when he refused to peacefully step down after losing the last election. The power billionaires wield comes from their ability to use their money to influence elections. Once there’s no more free elections, the billionaires have a much harder time applying political influence, and doing so may get them killed. Compare the list of notable Russians who died under suspicious circumstances

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          Fair point, but just like Russia, these billionaires are self absorbed narcissists, who think they’ll always be on the “in” group.