Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Honesty is not a conservative trait. It never has been.
It’s fear more than anything.
No, it’s primarily hatred. They great what they hate. The decency in conservatives I’ve known is skin-deep. Spend enough time with them, they’ll show you who they really are…
Ignorant fear breaks and shatters a lot of things around itself. Among the first things to go are character and ethics. And with that, any mental gymnastics are allowed so as to NOT go anywhere near Truth.
Not maga anyway
My entire lifetime conservative === Republican. And they’ve been lying, fear mongering and cheating as long as I’ve been alive.
With respect, people who support trump in any way, yes.
People who have different politics to you, no.
It’s not about their different politics though. It’s about them being dishonest liars who’ll say or do whatever they need to in the moment to accomplish end they want.
Newt Gingrich was a lying piece of shit before Trump was even a blip on the radar.
I don’t disagree with that either … but maga people were newt people.
But it’s important to not make categorical errors… Many conservative Americans aren’t like that. (Maybe a small many, but still)
If you actually want the Dems to win the election, then you should be correct in your language. Otherwise you hand the other side votes.
maga people were newt people
Disagree, they may have been predecessors but as I said Trump wasn’t even a blip on the radar yet. You might as well say Grover Norquist was a MAGAt. If we’re tracing the toxicity back we can go all the way back to FDR. The right is a party of failed policies and incorrect theories, full stop.
You are not understanding me.
I’m saying the people who are dumb enough to fall for populist bullshit and lies… and never check the evidence themselves… fall for both of these conmen.
But there are conservative Americans that don’t also. It’s not hard to understand. Accurate language is important.
All ******* are liars.
^^^^^^^ insert group you wish to depersonalize here.Fun experiment! I tried it with “progressives”, “undecided” and even “socialists”, but none of them worked.
In fact, so far, only “conservatives” and “Republicans” seem to fit properly in that phrase. Neat!
I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you. Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you
And you’re both wrong. I wish we would stop being so immature.
Tit for Tat. You hate them=they hate you. They kill you=you kill them. Hate and kill. Fight for everything, it’s like a schoolyard. Someone almost assassinated one of theirs? GREAT!
Who’s going to be the grown-ups here?
Let me guess. THEY HAVE TO START FIRST!
I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you.
Nah. Even conservatives are aware they are famous for deception and manipulation. Their statements regarding the honesty of others are not to be trusted, as every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.
Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group…
I never claimed to hate anyone.
doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you.
The words of a conservative can be disregarded out of hand, as they are always deception or manipulation.
Your comment then goes on about killing, an assasination and grown-ups, which is all irrelevant to my observation about the dishonesty of conservatives.
A war with who, Ian? Did DEI shoot at your boy?
I’m a little surprised nobody has tried to blame Hamilton’s “My Shot” for the attempt on Ole Donny Littlefinger’s life.
It would be extremely funny to see Lin Manuel Miranda having to apologize for advocating political violence, while a bunch of Groypers scream about doing a second American Civil War over their friendly fire incident.
There’s thousands of these assholes around us in Canada.
I saw a person here in western europe with a trump flag… A giant fucking trump flag hanging out their apartment window… These people are absolutely fucked in the head.
By chance, is flying the Nazi flag illegal in your country?
My guess is that the Trump flag is the dog whistle
I think the only place where flying the Nazi flag is actually illegal is Germany.
Personally I think it should be perfectly legal to fly the Nazi flag. If only so that the rest of the population knows who you are.
The problem is not flying the flag. The problem is what flying the flag does: spreading the message and emboldening those who would otherwise be harmless. Or worse, recruit impressionable folks.
So you cut that shit right off the bud before it spreads.
It’s like cancer. You don’t reason with cancer. You don’t say “you have the right to do your thing, but get along with the rest of me, yes?” You cut that shit off right away.
I find it interesting to see someone ‘admit,’ that humans can’t be trusted to be reasoned with… It’s an interesting perspective, that’s for sure.
America in recent years backs up your point. Have you lived in other developed countries though?
Yes, I’ve lived in Europe. And no, this is not an America problem. It’s a humanity problem.
Christianity, the nazis, Scientology, “the Swifties,” the countless sects, schemes like Herbalife and their “cult of success,” hell, the sports fans willing to beat up others because they use a shirt of a different color!
You use the term “interesting” as if it was a very novel concept. It isn’t. Or am I wrong for having perceived it that way?
For example: sex offenders are a global thing. Go to freaking Stavanger, Norway, and you’ll find people you can’t reason with about “rape bad, m’kay?”
otherwise be harmless
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one.
I’m not saying that everyone will psychopathic tendencies would be harmless; but definitely way less.
Let’s put it this way, although I concede that it’s not a perfect analogy: those stats about the risk of death increasing in a household after someone in it purchases a gun? Same deal. The father, the son, the daughter may think “I’m going to kill this mf one day!!” But that day never comes. Oh, but a gun is all of a sudden available? It’s very easy, in those circumstances, for someone with those thoughts to just go get it a brandish it.
How about the reverse, when it actually is something positive? In my hometown in the late 90s, people started complaining that “so many gays invaded our city.” Nope, “them gays” were always in the city, in the closet. Then a new message, spread through the internet, saying that it was okay to be gay. And people realized, “hey there’s actually many more of us in our city. I’m not alone!” and they were emboldened to just come out of the closet. That’s a positive situation, like I said.
But then we didn’t stomp it all out and the cancer becomes trump flags that sprout and grow like weeds.
Yeah and that’s not even really a political statement, that’s a dog whistle flag, that person is an asshole and sees themselves in Trump
It makes perfect sense when you realize that Trump is a symbol to international fascists. Let’s not forget that after 2016 the world shifted significantly to the right, and had normalized fascist rhetoric to 30% of the population in one of the largest nations in the world
after 2016 the
world shifted significantly to the rightfascists declared themselves openlyFascism is a result of decaying capitalism, people didn’t become fascist because Trump was elected. The conditions for fascism appeared in the US and other countries simultaneously, because the world economy is interconnected.
In Canada’s defence most of these people are based out of Russia anyway
There’s a guy here who painted his entire house as the trump flag. Flies don’t tread on me flags and shit. I’m speaking of actual people not online presence.
There are way too many of them locally too. At one point they identified themselves with their combination of FUCK TRUDEAU flags and Trump bumper stickers on their trucks.
There’s some weird obsession with north americans that they seem to think they don’t have substantial amount of problematic people among themselves.
I guess it’s just easier to blame everything, and I mean everything wrong is a Russian/Chinese psyops.
Ignorance is indeed a bliss.
Fun fact, I was driving through a major city in Southern Ontario recently, and on the outskirts there was a guy selling flags, there was a “fuck Trudeau” flag for sale.
Up the road and around the corner, someone felt the need to hang that exact flag at the end of their driveway. It had obviously been there for a while since it was half missing and only read “fu tru” which I think is a more valid message. I had a chuckle.
I’ve seen a lot more, but this was one of the most recent sightings, only a few weeks ago.
And shitbox cars too. Don’t forget those fuckers.
Not sure if Canada will allow the stupidly dangerous cyber truck for sale up there or not, but the only one near me has a Trump sticker on it. Not too far from the Quebec border either.
That’s nothing! Trump was born in SE Asia and was adopted by US citizens, but never took his naturalization test, so he’s not a citizen either. Can you believe that? I mean sure you can, you believed that other thing.
Yes well we can all agree that he looks extremely Asian.
Asians are notoriously orange
His parents were Argentinian.
By way of Berlin.
Has anyone seen his actual birth certificate?
Yes, his original parents in SE Asia. Possibly his adopted parents who took him on as a charity case, but that is unconfirmed.
Many people are saying…!
The best people!
People are saying it!
According to the leaked memo an anonymous source told me about referencing the document
If this is a real person, then he’s paid to do this
Controversial take: Trump is the only American president in recent history that broke away from the policy of war and invasion. Bush Jr, Obama and Biden all left a very bloody legacy, and were direcly responsible for mass murder. If you are not American, then supporting Trump makes a lot of sense.
STFU
Yes, I’m sure the Palestinians will be very relieved when Trump gives Israel even more toys to flatten them with.
Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe will also be pleased to return to the USSR.
Imagine looking at the modern Russian Federation and slapping a big Workers’ Soviet sticker on it.
I’m sure the Palestinians will be very relieved when Trump gives Israel even more toys to flatten them with.
How is this any different from what Biden is doing? Biden gave a blank check to Israel to commit mass murder and sent them weapons.
Trump is the only American president in recent history that broke away from the policy of war and invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani
Part of at least five reported assassination attempts under the Trump Presidency.
Trump also ratcheted tensions on the Ukraine/Russia border by opening the floodgates for US weapons into Ukraine, which were used in the exchange of fire that prompted the Russian invasion.
And he’s been more than happy to sell weapons to despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia and the UAE, which ratcheted tensions on Yemen.
And, of course, he has been a full-throated supporter of Israeli genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, including the massacre of peaceful protesters during the 2018-2019 Palestine marches
To claim Trump is “anti-war” is entirely untrue. He’s “anti-losing” and prefers to be in conflicts where he can crush opposition with impunity. He couldn’t do that in Afghanistan (not for lack of trying, he launched a vicious bombing campaign during his first year in office) and recognized it was undermining efforts elsewhere in the world. But he was more than happy to assassinate, bomb, and brutalize foreign countries at every opportunity during the full length of his term.
Sure, Russia was basically forced to start a full scale invasion of Ukraine because of some skirmish that used American weapons. It’s definitely not just Russian imperialism, and the little green men that started the invasion in 2014 also weren’t members of the Russian military. Have you lost your mind?
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Russia was basically forced to start a full scale invasion of Ukraine
I’m sorry, what’s up?
It’s definitely not just Russian imperialism, and the little green men that started the invasion in 2014 also weren’t members of the Russian military.
Little green men? Dude, what are you smoking?
You just blamed the invasion of Ukraine on Trump ‘opening the floodgates for US weapons’ which is bullshit. The invasion was started in 2014 by Little green men which were masked Russian soldiers.
You just blamed the invasion of Ukraine on Trump
No. I contested the claim that Trump was “anti-war” by noting his staunch support for international arms sales.
Trump also ratcheted tensions on the Ukraine/Russia border by opening the floodgates for US weapons into Ukraine, which were used in the exchange of fire that prompted the Russian invasion
Hell yes you did.
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Remember when Trump dropped the biggest non-nuclear bomb the US military has on Afghanistan for no good reason? Designed for flattening buildings on the surface they deployed it against a tunnel complex.
Remember when he pulled out of the Iran Nuclear deal and the invited one of their top Generals to Iraq and then assassinated him with a drone?
Remember when he wanted to employ the US military against protestors on US Soil and called for the Insurrection Act?
Remember when he ended the policy of reporting Drone strikes outside of official warzones so useful idiots would think he wasn’t a war monger?
Don’t confuse them with facts!
Pepperidge Farms remembers
I only support pepperidge farms that don’t remember!
That would be Archer Farms, Good Day to you
Lmao how could you believe something so utterly untrue? Trump bombed an Iraqi airfield to get one guy and threatened all out thermonuclear warfare with North Korea. He’s about as pro-war, dyed-in-the-wool imperialist as they come.
Our Western allies are terrified of Trump retaking office because he will never commit to helping anyone else.
Do you people literally live in the states and not just listen to be calls… The trump election calls.
Like how fucking dunse do you need to be to still want a king, and not actually check the crimes he committed.
Having them as neighbors and family makes it no less insane if you, like, pay attention to the world. Or if you give a shit about other people getting a shot at a decent life.
Like how fucking dunse do you need to be to still want a king
Every four years, conservatives have to fight to get their team into office. That’s expensive and difficult and often requires compromise with a bunch of people they hate.
To quote former president George W Bush:
If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier… as long as I’m the dictator. Hehehe
A king undermines the concept of a republican party. You see that right!?
Trump literally tried to go against governmental policy. Republican policy too…
That’s a good bush joke… you even included the part where he admits the joke. Hehehe
A king undermines the concept of a republican party.
These are all just name tags anyway. Republicans aren’t any more pro-Republicanism than Democrats are pro-Democracy. Hell, even the Libertarians aren’t particularly libertarian, unless you take that crap about Anarcho-Capitalism at the most superficial face value.
Trump literally tried to go against governmental policy.
Sure. But he’s allowed to do that if you just assert the government policy was wrong/illegal/bad. That’s one of the fundamental problems with bland legalism. Any lawyer worth their salt can argue both ends of a case convincingly and lots of the appellate court judges are political creatures who only hear what their paymasters tell them to.
you even included the part where he admits the joke
Bush put “Unitary Executive” in the American political lexicon. If he was joking, he certainly didn’t act like it.
“Sure you are, buddy”
You know you can support someone without voting for (or being able to vote for) them, right?
Just like all the under 18s who pulled for Sanders, lol.
This is not a debunking of anything. If you know anything about this guy, you’d have little reason to doubt that he absolutely is on Trump’s side, lol.
It’s easy to call for war when you aren’t going to get shot at
Take me back to the Feudal ages where workers had better pay and more time off. Where the leaders actually lead the workers into battle
That’s why politicians/pundits are the most likely to do it lol
Aka half of hexbear lmfao
Conservative estimate
When has Hexbear supported Trump?
joke
your head
the supporting Trump part isn’t the focus baby but the amount hexbear users parrot Russian bullshit they may as well have huh?
Let’s think hmm… I guess blaming the Russian invasion on Ukraine is aligning with Trump in my book since ya both tongue punching the same fart box. Seen too many of you dweebs on that shit so how’s that
The joke didn’t fly over my head, it was never funny.
the supporting Trump part isn’t the focus baby but the amount hexbear users parrot Russian bullshit they may as well have huh?
What “Russian bullshit” is parroted?
Let’s think hmm… I guess blaming the Russian invasion on Ukraine is aligning with Trump in my book since ya both tongue punching the same fart box. Seen too many of you dweebs on that shit so how’s that
NATO is the one leftists blame, but either way I don’t see how that translates to voting for Trump.
we follow us politics because they own a bunch of our shit, and have interfered with the third world a few times before to get things their way.
they currently have military presence all over the world. us oligarchs caused the housing crash and it affected most of the planet.
Okay A, why are you screaming at me? B, are all hexbear people just making .ml accounts now because nobody wants to talk to you? C, how does that justify supporting Trump lol?
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I feel like you people don’t read this post lmfao
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There are so many comments on the US election from people who have zero participation in it.
By itself that’s fine, but point it out please. “I’m not a US voter, but” or something. I get these bizarre takes that make sense only after realizing the commenter isn’t familiar with US elections - which is good news. Because what I’m used to are bizarre takes from people who are (or should be) familiar with them.
Yeah it makes complete sense. They aren’t arguing one side over the other…
They are arguing the simple principle of whether Americans should vote for a king who tried to take powers or not.
It’s relevant to the lives of the world sine the moment so much evidence has been proved against trump.
I’m not from the US, nor can I vote there. Unfortunately, since I’m in Canada, I’m very very familiar with your voting system. My knowledge of it is basically on par with my own.
I have lots of opinions on what you guys are doing and I’m desperately hoping that the majority of voters are voting the less crazy person into office.
As it stands, I don’t even want to visit the USA because there’s so much going on.
Canadian here seconding this opinion.
I’m not from the USA but will be the first to call out idiots trying to convince people not to vote in the US election!
Thank you for your service 🫡
I wish the rest of the world could just ignore your spectacular brand of stupidity but unfortunately things that happen in the US affect the rest of the world. Would be quite happy if that were not the case, but you lot tend to get the rest of the West embroiled in stupid wars.
When candidates start attempting to changed the governmental system by force, with violence… A death… And still have the idiotic in the country support him… it forces us to take note.
I would argue the same would be true if someone like this existed in British politics.
People like that do exist in British politics and some morons even vote for them. Not in the numbers that Trump gets.
I don’t make a point of pointing out I’m not American, but I figure my instance gets it across
Pssst…not all lemmy clients show your instance by default. For instance Voyager. I had to click through your username to see the .ca.
I know California gets a lot of shit, but it isn’t actually a different country.
/jk
It might be due to the fact that I mostly consume media in English, but I hear more about US elections than I heard about the EU parliament elections which were last month. A lot of people are interested, and for good reasons - it’s going to influence much more than US itself. I don’t think you can go back to keeping your elections to yourself without keeping your military, pop cultural and corporate influence to yourself aswell.
As a non-american, I’d tune out a lot more of us politics if the US wasn’t the world’s largest military, and a major nuclear power.
also, US conservatives control, instruct, guide and finantially support conservatives in europe, provide them knowhow and practices to manipulate their societies, move closer to power and manipulate laws permanently. it’s going on for years. having conservative administration in power in the US, just spreads their wings towards societies and countries around the world - rise of conservativism in EU since trump’s coming to power is significant, and those groups all use the same methods, same words and practices, spread the same fears (conservative groups of Poland, Croatia, Hungary etc, are led, instructed and finantially supported by US conservative groups). so US elections surely aren’t just a local thing. it’s very global.
Well said…
No and that’s totally valid, but when I see something like “Joe Biden should do X or he’s going to lose the vote!” My immediate context fir that is that it’s a US voter saying that. So my response might be something like, “you moron, he obviously can’t do that because of the Bollocks vs. Chowderhead decision of 1972.”
BUT - If I were aware that they were saying that as an interested observer from another country, I could say”oh, well here it’s different because of Bollocks. See what had happened was . . .”
It’s just a fundamentally different conversation.
If people post on international forums, internationals will respond.
And I’m all for it. But this tweet is illustrative of the issues in not knowing that. Put it up front, is all I’m saying.
Otherwise, it’s just confusing and sometimes that’s a very bad thing.
This dude (Ian Miles Cheong) is not acting in good faith, has no incentive to tell you anything he doesn’t want you to hear, and in fact has an incentive to lie and cover up the truth. This is his job. He’s not going to play nice.
Right, another reason it’s problematic
My only complaint is when they’re commenting as if they were citizens. I doubt it’s intentional but I’ve noticed it a few times now.
It’s very intentional
I can’t vote (green card) but it does affect me (permenant resident) I shouldn’t have to declare that in every conversation. It’s a bit “papers, bitte”
Yeah I get it, as someone living in America, fair enough, you shouldn’t have to qualify it.
It’s not a great solution. There’s just no way to tell and after getting into minutiae with people, who don’t live here and can’t vote, enough times, it seems like we could avoid some miscommunication that way.
Aw yeah, this idiot that got fussed over Grok when it said that transwomen are real women lmaoo
What’s Grok and who is the it in this sentence?
Grok is the AI chatbot from Musk’s company xAI trained off X’s data. The ‘it’ is referring to Grok.
As you can see, Musk is a naming genius.
Oh. Gross.
Open butthole
Ian Miles Cheong’s Twitter-fame is baffling to me. I often follow conservative people on there if they’re in an important position of some sort, but this guy has accomplished nothing that makes his perspective more relevant than the average schmuck.
Engagement is engagement. It’s not a relevance contest, the algorithm picks what makes it money.
I remember this nazi turned turbofeminist…turned nazi again I guess. This guy pops up every once in a while. No principles, all attention whoring.
I’ve got to hand it to the folks that are staying on Twitter to dunk on jerks in the Clarification Box.
True heroes with stronger stomachs than I.
I honestly wouldn’t go as far as to call them “heroes” in that a lot of them are just contrarians who want to piss off other people on the internet and likely have very little in the way of political ideology.
It just so happens that most of the loudest voices on twitter are also horrible shitnazis so they are going to get the brunt of the community-note trolling.
This guy is so goddamn weird. I would love to find out what the rusty gears in his brain are doing to make him like this. Dude. Mind your own country’s shit.
