Yes I know they’re getting DDoSed, I’m just messing around
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So I’m totally new to federated apps and just joined the biggest one figuring it’d be the most reliable.
I understand the downside of all/local filtering being less useful on smaller instances, but I don’t use those anyway, so would be curious about a couple of things if anyone has advice:
- How would you go about choosing an instance assuming reliability/speed was all you cared about?
- Is there somehow a way to transfer the topics I subscribe to/content I’ve submitted to a new instance, or would I basically just be starting over if I switched?
Choose a server that is oriented to your geographical location.
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Of course location is not a guarantee of fast speeds, but you can at least check servers nearby with https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/map. I guess you can check for uptime to have an idea about reliability, but I never really relied on that. Shit happens (vlemmy comes to mind) so it’s hard to gauge an instance’s future reliability/stability. You have the option to start your own instance as well.
This is great, thank you!
Hope you find the right instance for you. Welcome to lemmy!
other useful links:
- an account sync script in python: https://github.com/Ac5000/lemmy_account_sync
- uptime of most lemmy instances: https://lestat.org/
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Stop flocking to the core worlds, join the fringe! We have the same amenities… Only downside is browsing by All is less diverse
Content fringe world inhabitant here:
Why is our All tab less diverse?
Is it not just dependent on how many instances your instance is federating with?
The main issue is that Lemmy instances, by default, only know about their local communities and remote communities that the users of that server have deliberately subscribed to. Some smaller instances are running federation helpers which are bots that search for remote communities to fix this.
Thanks for clarifying. Makes sense
Good to learn about some of the piping underneath
All is based on what people on that instance are subscribed to most, not just federation
Makes sense. It only pulls in what users on the instance subscribe to.
Thanks for clarifying!
You subscribe to individual communities. So unless a user or the admin already subscribed to a community there won’t be any content there from those communities.
Even after subscribing only new content (and old content that has had replies/likes) will show up.
I look at lemmy.world all occasionally to get a sense of what I’m interested in but don’t know it yet. Then I subscribe to help expand the variety for everyone. Not that lemm.ee is all that small
Almost definitely, it’s hard to imagine there’s a community on lemmy.world that not one of the 20k users have susbcribed to
Virtually identical absolutely. But in my personal experience over the last few months, I see content that’s in lemmy.world that’s not on lemm.ee
For a while, because content was more thin, I’d run through all of active, then all of hot, then I’d look at lemmy.world just to see if there was content I hadn’t seen yet
Pretty much any of the top 5 instances already subscribe to each others communities. Definitely not missing out on lemm.ee either!
In my totally unbiased opinion you should join lemm.ee
No no no no no. We don’t want to people to join and enjoy our near 100% uptime. Also be warned that lemm.ee isn’t de-federated with lemmynsfw so you’ll get PORN on your all feed. The horror. Steer clear.
block the porn communities or disable NSFW, that’s what I did (at least before lemmy.blahaj.zone defederated from them)
Yes, Sopuli seems like a main server. Love it.
One can easily get around that by simply subscribing to more communities!
what if every instance used the lemmy community seeder?
So I don’t know enough about the inner workings, but on Reddit I never browsed all at all - it was 100% communities I’d subscribed to. At the moment I’m happy with Lemmy All, but if in the future when content gets too much, would I say, be able to host my own instance in my Android device and my subscriptions will just pull in the content I’m interested in? That way I am not putting load on other instances, and I can take my configuration with me without needing a cloud service?
You can also just browse “subscribed” instead of all.
My understanding is you can’t host your own instance on an Android device, you’d need a server. You could stand up a server on Oracle Cloud, their Always Free tier is pretty generous.
Can you explain this? Why? If I follow the same communities that in the bigger instance?
Your subscribed will be the same. All will differ as it grabs everything everyone on that instance is subscribed to.
Ex. If you’re on lemmyworld you’ll see everything there by default but if you swap to instance X and nobody in x is subbed to niche.community@lemmyworld then it won’t be brought to your All
Ok! I had misconception of “All” I thought that it shows literally All! Thanks for the explanation!!
What are the few fringes here ?
Check out lemmyverse.net and look at instances
I have been here for months and still have no idea what this means
That’s probably a bad sign
Basically lemmy.world is the largest lemmy instance by a country mile, and so it keeps going down because of DDos attacks and just sheer load Maybe you haven’t noticed because the client/app you use just shows old posts until it can connect to the server again
The site you make your account on is your home server (instance). That server takes on the job of processing your data when you use lemmy. Your home server is lemmy.world, mine right now is lemm.ee
If a lot of people use the same home server, it gets expensive for the team running that server, the meme is about lemmy.world having issues with downtime because of this. You can have whatever home server you want and still access anything on the fediverse, so if you join a smaller instance as your home server, by literally making a new account on a different lemmy site, you can still use lemmy exactly the same (use your app to look at all instead of local) but spread the load so big instances like lemmy.world don’t have too much strain. Doing this is good for the long term health of the fediverse.
I always enjoy finding new instances!
I honestly I don’t get why people don’t just, y’know, join instances that are more local. It would solve the “everything’s in a different language!” Issue too because now the main foreign language is, y’know, one you speak.
Or - yeah I did the same I joined a Finnish instance because I live right next door and it seemed like the logical thing to do
and screw Denmarkwe are the best country of Chile.
Sound off your instances folks! If you like pop music and
- You want to create pop music related communities
- You want to hang around other popheads
Come check us out at poptalk.scrubbles.tech. There are dozens of us here on Lemmy. Dozens!
You got 30 whole users! That’s almost 3 dozen!
Would be happy to join if there are not too many things defederated , specially the big communities ? I need my memes ??
I’m the admin, try not to defederate unless it’s necessary, like too many trolls coming into our instance and NSFW, because then I’m hosting it and I can’t do that.
But other than that I try to keep it open
Getting a rate limit error when trying to sign up !
apparently enough people were in fact signing up! I have it at like, 5 a minute so bots can’t spam me. Raised it to 10, you should be good
I will try it soon again !
Well thanks let me check ur instance
Honestly, given the current state of affairs I wouldn’t have it any other way.
The little time these turds spend attacking the site I call my mental health break from the madness.
That’s smart lol All it does for me is make me think I’m going crazy when trying to subscribe to a .world instance for the first time right after it goes down, since it doesn’t load
When lemmy.world goes down, I use the time it is down to do other things. Like read, spend more quality time with my pets, learn something new, or just go outside and touch some grass.
During the Reddit protest I got a professional certification. It’s amazing what you can do when you’re not doomscrolling…
Lol me too! I got an AWS cert
please delete this cousin
It doesn’t help that the donation links still are just for Mastodon world, with no clear way to even find the donation links from Lemmy world. They put out a posting for sysadmins with part time hours for free… As a sysadmin I definitely don’t have time for that shit. Maybe they could make the donation links more obvious and try to hire actual staff if they need help.
Both sites are sharing the same infra IIRC, hence the donation links pointing elsewhere
They are different servers in the same datacenter and there is overlap in the teams.
Thanks for the clarification 👌
Well you say that but we have plenty of sysadmins who applied and most of us are it professionals already doing this as a hobby project. I think we tackled that in our most recent announcement. If that is not for you that is fine.
The donations to mastodon.world are shared with those to lemmy.world. LW admin Ruud has been very open in his near-monthly blogs: https://blog.mastodon.world/
These blog posts are also announced on Lemmy World. I think it is all pretty clear.
It took me way too much searching to find that. Think about it as a user looking for a donation link, the website’s drop down has a link to donate to Lemmy’s codebase but nothing clear for Lemmy world.
Signups are open on my instance up to 100ish users. I run scripts to auto-federate popular content, so it’s pretty bumping.
Do you use LCS or lemony? Just curious
Both, actually.
I, personally, use Lemmony on my instance. It’s a solid tool.
I joined another instance and it closed within 2-3 weeks…
This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.
I’m on lemmy.world because it’s the most likely to survive
Why would one need a persistent profile though? This isn’t Mastodon, here accounts are throwaway, just like on Reddit
You bet, LW ain’t going anywhere.
This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.
Isn’t this the downside to any system reliant on remote operators?
For any truly valuable data, the solutions remain the same, keep local copies, create backups, and store some backups offsite. As-is it seems like perhaps too many people rely strictly on offsite solutions as their singular data store, which is as bad practice as only having local backups, tbh.
Meanwhile many people left Reddit and deleted all their history, years of it
I hope you’re donating
i think this is bring worked on, but in the meantime, you can still transfer subscribed communities with lemmy migrate
I’d love there to be a Trust on first use signed user record and a DHT of associated servers that would allow profile references to point to the most recently made user profile with the same key as the oldest one.
Yeah that would be ideal. That way if one instance is temporarily down you could still use your account.
sopuli.xyz has been around for years so it should survive
I’m never closing mine as long as it has active users. Please come if it’s a good location for you - western USA. Performance and uptime is really good but you will have some network latency if you are on the other side of the world.
Mr manager 🫡
:) Haha, I have had so many bad experiences with shitty managers so it’s kind of a joke alias.
Spread the Load!
That’s what she said.
Regards, RadioactiveRadio
Anyone is welcome to join my instance at endlesstalk.org. Its running on a pretty beefy server, so it can take a decent amount of users.
There are multiple frontends like lemmy.world and I have setup a seeder(lemmony), so the all feed should be pretty filled.
