Rogan’s entire career was predicated on the normalisation of reactionary right-wing beliefs/prejudices. He was the motte to the bailey of the Thiels and Bannons, easing perfectly normal dudes along the path, one casual joke at the expense of minorities at a time. And for a while it worked, to the point where Spotify bet the company on him. And then, the word “weird” entered the discourse, and people realised that casual cruelty and obsessing about strangers’ genitals weren’t the time-honoured values of a silent majority.
It would suck to be holding Spotify shares right now.
And then, the word “weird” entered the discourse, and people realised that casual cruelty and obsessing about strangers’ genitals weren’t the time-honoured values of a silent majority.
Eh, we’ll see. I remember a lot of people thinking “#MeToo” was going to put a hard stop to sexual harassment in the workplace. And, for a brief moment, it did look like our social norms and criminal justice system would maybe do the right thing. But then the reactionaries got even more reactionary. Now we’re debating whether rape victims should bleed out on a hospital floor during an ectopic pregnancy while doctors huddle around fearful of losing their licenses if they try to provide treatment.
Joe Rogan isn’t going away. If anything, his fascist dogwhistling seems to be bringing in more and more rabid dogs to his cult community in Austin, TX. My home state has never felt more fucked than it does today. Old enough to remember when “Keep Austin Weird” was charming. Not so much anymore.
I would bet that just like with “woke”, the right is going to take “weird” and use it. It’s what they do. They are the masters of projection, and love name calling. They’re shameless, too, so if you call them something, they just take it and turn it around. I am positive if this “weird” name calling campaign catches on, it will just become another right wing buzzword.
They’ll have a harder time appropriating “weird” and making it work as a self-label for their normative, dominance-oriented ideology. They’re quite happy with being seen as fearsome hordes, barbarians at the gates, deplorables even, but they need to be seen to be representing the silent majority, and pushing back against a diversity imposed from above by (((those people))). “weird” punctures that and appropriating it whilst maintaining the rhetoric about purifying American society and purging it of liberal degeneracy would be one hell of a jiu-jitsu move.
“Yes I’m weird, and I should be. Jesus didn’t tell us to be of the world, he only told us to be in the world. We don’t conform to that world, and we never will. Don’t hide your light under that bushel, but stand against the darkness that threatens to creep in. Stand against the devil and his minions. Stand against transexuals, leftists, and the woke mob. Stand against the abortionists, the evolutionists, and the false god of science. And when you do, every brother and sister here will stand with you. And all God’s people say-” [crowd] ‘Amen!’.
A preview of things to come. Please excuse me while I go rinse my brain out.
They’d first need to make “weird” an exclusionary term referring only to their particular weirdness, and nobody else. Foreign cultures, obscure hobbies, unusual sexual kinks, religious cults, psychedelic countercurrents and so on don’t get to be “weird” unless they’re part of the conservative counterrevolution. Which would require effectively stripping the word of its meaning. And then, a short time later, somebody would point out that they’re no closer to the great American norm they profess to defend than all these this that used to be called weird.
Also, “in the world but not of the world” may work for initiates into the cult, but is no good for convincing swing voters that one represents the Silent Majority. Fundamentalists need to couch their dogma (no pun intended) in rationalisations that sound like something a normal person who’s not a cultist might believe.
imho you have a lot more to deal with vis-a-vis greg abbot and the GOP menstrual militia. Rogan’s a clown who’s gonna die shitting on the toilet. He has influence, but guys, Texas, for fuck’s fucking sake, look around at the dystopia you’ve built for women, Rogan doesn’t rate on the scale of Abbot and Ken “CAN’T INDICT ME” Paxton. You have much bigger, much worse, more pressing problems.
Like Ercot lol.
Rogan’s a fuckwit. You’ve got real problems.
And musk!
Rogan’s a clown who’s gonna die shitting on the toilet. He has influence, but guys, Texas, for fuck’s fucking sake, look around at the dystopia you’ve built for women
Rogan is a vector for the hysteria that makes Abbott popular. Right wing media does a great job of creating scapegoats and bogeymen that distract from material reality.
A guy who has been pivotal in mainstreaming anti-Trans fear mongering, hatred and fear of feminists and foreigners, and this fight club fascism is a big part of what makes conservative policy electorally viable.
A guy who has been pivotal in mainstreaming anti-Trans fear mongering, hatred and fear of feminists and foreigners, and this fight club fascism is a big part of what makes conservative policy electorally viable.
YES, but the dipshit (rogan) isn’t driving the bus. Abbot and Paxton are just as transphobic as Rogan, but your state ELECTS THEM TO DRIVE THE BUS. RIGHT OVER THE BODIES OF THOSE LGBTQ FOLK AND WOMEN.
Sorry there’s nothing you can say to equate them in my book - you have much larger problems than Joe fuckwit Rogan
YES, but the dipshit (rogan) isn’t driving the bus. Abbot and Paxton are
No, Bob Perry, Jeff Yass, Reed Hastings, and Miriam Adelson are in the drivers’ seat. Abbott’s just a different kind of piece on the board.
your state ELECTS THEM TO DRIVE THE BUS
My state’s elections are a fucking joke. If you take the results at face value, you probably have a great time listening to Joe Rogan.
Happens every fucking election cycle. Total mystery why it plagues black voting districts so consistently.
y’all need to dig up Ann
eRichards, reanimate her corpse and let her loose on the lot of them.YO how can anyone here downvote Ann Richards she was a pistol, goddamn
outspoken feminist FORMER TEACHER democrat TEXAS GOV
y’all need to learn your history
Guess who makes people elect the bus drivers - Rogan, Fox News, etc.
Yet another reason to cancel spotify and netflix. These fucks pollute the streams with their fascist supporting garbage, I don’t want my $ to go to that garbage.
I mean sure but at the end of the chain the actual problem is the people. Unless we cut out the cancer at the root, everything else is just doctoring on the symptoms, kid.
What’s this about the word ‘weird’?
Are you sure about that timeline?
Remember when he used to present Fear Factor? He was alright at that, not a stand up though
Every time you read the next part of his “act” you think you can’t roll your eyes any harder, but then you can
Anyone complaining about this that still has a Spotify account needs to stfu.
Anyone paying taxes in the US can stfu about the genocide of Palestinians.
Wow this is easy AND fun!
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Let me know how your audit from Spotify goes.
You’re right this was fun and easy, moron.
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if you have a Spotify account and still want to complain about Rogan’s bigotry and homophobia, i think that’s fine toodeleted by creator
Yeah sure just make sure you post it on your twitter account too 🙄
Yes, unironically
Consumer ethics is a diversion from systemic critique of the platforms enabling this shit
Except when you pay to keep bigots platformed. But I’m sure meat eating “animal lovers” share your opinion.
Ohhhh, you’re one of those people. Always fun to spot in the wild
This is the sort of thing where the only thing you can possibly be getting from it is a sense of moral superiority, since you aren’t actually making things better even if you were more persuasive (because you’d still be acting apart from any sort of organized boycott), and you are not even being persuasive.
Whatever you have to tell yourself so you think you’re correct.
Honestly I started off on your side but then I realized that the other people here are making valid points.
You’re coming across as a solid dickhead.
I agree that since Spotify is sponsoring Joe Rogan that using spotify means in some part you are sponsoring Joe Rogan.
You might be 100% right on that, I might be 100% right on that, but if we are dicks to the people we’re talking to about it they’re going to be against us because of our attitude regardless of whether we are right or not.
No, actually that’s what you’re doing. Not making points, but getting off on your own god complex via snide, unhelpful remarks. Neat! 👍
Hexbear users (with freaking Castro avatars) complaining about bigotry … 🤡
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Nah the benefits outweigh the costs, they support an unfunny moron and I get all the music I want forever.
Spotify isn’t the best platform anymore and does other evil stuff too, like working towards paying even less to the artists. If the stunt they pulled with Rogan isn’t convincing you to never give them money again, you might be part of the problem.
Whats the problem I am part of?
The rise of fascism
Im just listening to music
On the surface you might be, but your “just listening” to music enables the rise of fascism.
I agree to an extent, spotify and Rogan suck but there are far worse enablers of the rise of fascism. TBH it is more culture war bullshit he is guilty of and spreading absolute stupidity.
But also America doesnt do a lot to protect itself from fascism so whynwould I help america out by inconveniencing myself
Google Music is better.
It wasnt and I generally dont like using google where possible.
I left Spotify because of Joe Rogan.
Figured they don’t have money to pay artists well, but they have millions for a guy I don’t care about.
I’m not a fan of Apple, but they seem to pay artists better and also seem to give 2 fs about Joe Rogan.
I don’t have Netflix either anymore. Apparently I’m not missing much
It appears you have a stronger moral compass then 26 other people whose ear pleasure is more important to them.
Not a fan of apple either but supposedly they pay better then Spotify. I just buy music from the artists now.
I pirate what I want from Netflix at this point. Sweet tooth is worth a watch.
It also wasn’t a hard choice because they also have the lowest music quality too. The only thing Spotify was maybe best with is android auto
Used tunemymusic to migrate everything. Took a few minutes
They also seem to screw over multi room audio systems (with the exception of Sonos) and force people to use their app instead of the native app
…is he closeted gay? Gays who know about closeted gays, please enlighten me.
Would it matter if he was?
People who spend time thinking about other people’s sexualities are thinking about it for some reason. Like, who does that?
I agree that he wasn’t that funny. But it was also really tame. I don’t remember it being “gay sex obsessed”. I don’t understand why people care so much about him. He’s really just extremely average.
He may be extremely average, but he’s also one of the top podcast hosts and platforms a lot of harmful stuff. That’s why people (who are against him) care. I don’t know why people like him though.
He caters to the average right wing npc with lower than room temperature IQ
The demographic is pretty large.
Thanks to his vast knowledge of man-to-man anal (MMA)
I hope he jumps off a cliff
I got banned for saying we should shoot paedophiles the reason given was “advocating for violence”. Why are u allowed to say this about joe rogan but i can’t advocate for shooting pedos can someone make this make sence.
I think the distinction is hoping someone will do something vs saying we should do something. That’s the “advocating” part. Nobody can say that a comment hoping Rogan would jump off a cliff had anything to do with it if it actually happens somehow.
I hope he does something Vs I think we should do something
It’s a pretty straight forward distinction if you understand words
It’s a pretty straight forward distinction if you understand words
Fuck me that is brutal. 🤣 I think you need to be imprisoned for murder.
So u can advocate for someone to commit violence upon themselves but not commit violence upon others?
Its a lot less strait forward if you think through the implications of what the words mean.
Did a kangaroo kick you in the head, or were you born this stupid?
You know who always gets caught with kiddie porn on their computers? People like you who constantly want draconic punishments for those they cannot even differentiate from actual child rapists. So, what are you hiding?
I’ll bite on ur obviously rage bait lose lose cenario.
Explain to me what people deserve the death penalty or do think it should be abolished?
What the other poster was getting at, which I was going to bring up is they said there’s a difference between a paedophile and a child molester.
A child molester is a criminal, a paedophile is not.
Don’t get the wrong idea, this isn’t a defence of paedophiles, but defence of a demographic of people who haven’t done anything wrong.
Much of the reason paedophiles dont seek help is because of the mindset displayed here.
A paedophile who commits themselves to never touching a child is nothing short of a hero in my opinion.
I don’t think there’s an ethical basis for capital punishment, except under some extreme circumstance (like having intel that a militant force will raid a prison to rescue a high ranking war criminal).
There are multiple reasons:
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Surprisingly, capital punishment is expensive. So expensive in fact, that it’s cheaper to keep them in prison for their entire life, multiple times over.
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The capacity for someone to suffer ends when they die. If you believe in punishment (I don’t, but you do you), then it makes sense to prolong their suffering as long as possible.
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Capital punishment doesn’t dissuade criminals. Countries with capital punishment have just as many criminals as those without.
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Punishment is a shitty metric by all accounts. Harm mitigation is the aim of the game, whether you’re talking about prison or execution, they’re both isolating a person from the broader community. If the prison serves the same purpose, why do we need execution?
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It’s unrealistic to employ capital punishment where there isn’t any. Anyone who deserves to be executed would not be released from prison. You’ve got a better chance of convincing people to prolong prison punishments than you do of instating legal murder.
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Innocent people are wrongfully convinced every day. Many people have been executed, only to be found innocent some years later.
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What in the hell about my comment is rage bait? lol Over the years we’ve had countless of news articles about priests, pedo hunters and other highly “outspoken” individuals getting caught with child pornography or a history of raping children. It’s always the same pattern.
Death penalty = barbarism. Murder is only okay if there’s no other option, like a trapped you vs me scenario, or a violent dictator like Hitler who can’t be removed through other means, etc. And I already live in a civilized country so it already is abolished.
I don’t think either is acceptable frankly but my guess is this is a passive statement “I hope they do x”. Yours is advocating for direct violence “we should shoot/kill x”. Both are shitty and should be avoided imo but one is a call to action.
I noticed him on my Netflix just now.
Thumbs downed the lot on principle. I ain’t watching that shit.
They gave him another stand up special? I haven’t seen the new one but his old standup is awful. Seriously some of the most unfunny shit ever from an established television personality.
When was the last time you even had a special before this? I thought he stopped doing comedy like in 2010. It’s been a while. And he was a failed comedian. Like that’s why he got into everything else. He wasn’t very good at it.
That’s the worse. I loved comedian Rogan during the 2000s-2010s. He used to make jokes about being a idiot, and accepting that. The past few years have been a nightmare. Bill Burr calling him out on his contradictions is gold. Rogan continues to spiral into hack territory.
UFC really morphed him into being a guy with awful takes, and his fandom caused his ego to grow. His podcast continues to create disingenuous arguments that riles up the fanbase. Like he’d bring up a topic, but then only invite one perspective and fully let them run wild and even agreeing with them, while dismissing the truth. Even when he gets fact checked, he shrugs and goes, “woops”, as if he didn’t just spend a few hours calling for hostility about something he doesn’t understand.
His “I’m a idiot” shtick doesn’t work anymore when he keeps control of the narrative and is intellectually dishonest.
Fuck Netflix. Stop subscribing to this shitty service, everyone.
Arrrr
He’s never been a good comedian. Podcaster alright but his jokes were dogshit pre-covid, it seems that no one tells him though.
He’s been doing a Sam kinison impression since his careers start. Always odd that none of the comedians have said anything
Holy shit, a double whammy! Weird Vance discussed gay sex with his grandma, and Weird Musk permanently deleted a picture from the internet forever.
“I’ll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I’m going to hell.”
When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”
When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.
“JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.
The young Vance, apparently “flabbergasted,” said: “Of course not!”
“Then you’re not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”
Wtf is this picture.
Just a man embarrassed of being himself. I’ve got some looks I don’t look back fondly on, but I’d never be so foolish as to think I could remove pictures forever
That’s a healthy take.
That was a wild ride from maw maw lol
Yeah, if true, Mamaw sounded like a good time
It’s so crazy how this show is basically the exact same shit the exact same type of guy would have done 10, 20, 30 years ago with the exact same jokes. The only difference is the post-covid brainworms and the context of the transphobia being presented as a losing ideology. Kinda mindblowing that this dude is a couple years from AARP eligibility and still talking like he’s in middle school. That sucks.
Just an FYI, there is no age floor for AARP.
It was pretty fucking funny tho
Tell me a funny covid disinformation joke.
The one about people taking COVID medical advice from the guy that used to make people eat donkey cum was pretty funny… and I say this as a person who still thinks people with COVID should wear masks.
