This reminds me of that one riddler comic (Found it, batman black and white #5 “The Riddle”, here’s a reddit link since that was the easiest to find https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/tn8b68/ )
It’s a creative and very short choose your own adventure and I highly recommend it
That’s a clever joke. I however have radical freedom!
Chooses to put the book outside
I would flip a coin and let the universe decide
I can’t turn to the page cuz it’s an image on a screen.
Hell yeah how good is determinism
That is yet to be determined.
Robert Sapolsky’s books are challenging but worthwhile reads.
So those neuroscientists managed to disprove quantum physics?
Would be nice if there was a hidden ending on page 57
When I was like 7 my mom bought me a choose your own adventure book. I tried to read it cover to cover and was very confused.
So if you read it cover to cover, what did you think the instructions were about? What about the “turn to page X” parts?
I’m not judging - this is exactly the sort of oblivious thing I would’ve done as a kid too - but I’m curious how it happened.
I specifically remember doing this with one of the goosebumps choose your own adventure. There was a good ending page that referenced nirvana (the idea not the band) and I read that thing end to end choosing both choices for everything. No page ever sent you to it. It was just a contrivance that you were sent to glance at while flipping through.
Okay that’s kind of amazing, you found an easter egg in an out of bounds area.
I am disappointed in how long it took me to see the joke, but its a good one! I’m gonna have to go with page 72.
Haha, fuck fate. I have free will!
Throws the book in the fireplace
book lands in fireplace open on page 72
The predetermined universe smiles when the book’s fate is being fulfilled.
what does it look like when a universe smiles?
Your guess is just as valid as mine.
If it is all predetermined, why is it nobody can predict events? And before any “psychics” chime in, even crapshooter rolls a 7 sometimes
In order to simulate the future of the universe, one would need a computer that could store every bit of data required to express the state of the universe, plus anything required to handle any temporary calculations and then extra if you want to store anything about that simulation.
There is only one such device known to exist: the universe itself. And it doesn’t store any simulation history, though you can figure out some things by examining the current state.
We could simulate a smaller portion of the universe, but you still need to store every bit of information about the current state and things would diverge anyways because you won’t be perfectly simulating the edges and those differences would cascade throughout the whole thing eventually.
That state for Earth would still take an earth amount of matter to store. But ok, let’s say we repurpose Jupiter to be a perfect Earth simulator at least until the edge differences mess it all up, plus it has a ton of extra matter to store useful information about the simulation. First thing you’ll need to do once it’s ready is initialize it with the current state of Earth.
But, there’s a problem: how do you measure every single thing about something without the earlier measurements changing the later ones? You can’t measure something without interacting with it in some way. Even if you just look at it, it changes (though it’s not your eyes that change it, it’s the light that bounced off of it to get to your eyes). That change is miniscule for direct affects on us, but it’s very relevant at a perfect simulation level of detail.
The universe might be deterministic (I don’t think there’s any real way to determine this for sure either way, like what would be different if it was or wasn’t?), but it’s not prederministic, at least not from within.
Maybe there’s some kind of mechanism to see a reflection from the future or something like that, but even then, what would happen if someone saw themselves walk through the left door in the future but when the moment came walked through the right door instead?
Even a mirror can only reflect so much of what faces it being as it is a manmade tool and is as such inherently limited. Ourbrains are even hamstrung by the chemicals that flow within it.
Well a crap shooter is most likely to roll a seven, so I dunno about your analogy.
Yeah finite sets deliver finite results. everything Man can devise is finite in nature. The universe is not finite though
The universe is not finite though
What convinced you of that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UebSfjmQNvs - Kurzgesagt - Lemmings will reee optimistic greenwashing.
Can Free Will be Saved in a Deterministic Universe? PBS Space Time - And it’s counter argument page https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2020/11/15/free-will-video/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/free-will-is-only-an-illusion-if-you-are-too/ - I’m glad to the coincidence regarding see my semantics point regarding ‘Free will’ being a somewhat outdated term being a key point in this article.
One cauld rightfully argue “determination” and “predetermination” are wildly different concepts. The comic is wrong on this. But let’s go page 72 anyway
I’m taking my towel to page 42. You can’t fool me!
Quiet. Accept your servitude to propaganda and conditioning.
You could have stopped at (universal) servitude. But yeah, they say it all becomes clear p.72!
But the book only has 71 pages
Pg 72 is in volume 2.
If you are interested, buy volume 2. Else, buy volume 2.
I didn’t know Fallout 4 had a graphic novel!
