the guy the popularized calling republicans weird nonetheless
It was an off the cuff remark that struck a nerve. We’ve all been there with that weird relative that is decked out in MAGA gear.
Exactly why he feels like a great pick. He didn’t over engineer some tagline to game the attention economy.
He just said what the silent majority is thinking in a down to earth “this is so obvious” kind of way. These people are just weird and ruining the family gathering.
And they hate when their weirdness is pointed out.
We can now stand on a solid ticket from top to bottom. Waltz will wipe the floor with Vance.
Waltz will waltz over Vance.
Just an FYI - although it is spelled Walz, he pronounces it walls
Republicans wanted to build the Walz. Well now’s their chance!
I was going to make a joke about the official state dance but Minnesota oddly does not have one. Another recent VP came from a state without an official state dance cough cough Biden cough cough
I was real worried she was gonna re-saddle her campaign with an anti-Palestine running mate. This is a relief and gives me some hope for this Nov.
Thank Christ.
Maybe there’s some hope for Gaza yet.
Just took a stroll through his Wikipedia page and he does seem a better than average politician
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Has a record of defeating incumbent Republicans
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Seems to be on the proper side of most policy
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But more importantly, by far, seems to be a guy actually capable of learning from his mistakes
But more importantly, by far, seems to be a guy actually capable of learning from his mistakes
Unfortunately many people like when their guy never makes mistakes (or at least convinces you that all of their egregious mistakes are someone else’s fault or were never actually mistakes to begin with)
Exactly, and often “we” even fault them from changing opinions which renders politicians unable to correct any stance
There is a huge difference between a flip flopper and someone who actually learns from the nuance of the issues and shifts their stance
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I live in a blue state and was planning on leaving the president option blank. Especially for Biden, and even for Harris.
I am now actually seriously considering filling in that bubble for Harris / Walz
Great news
Madame President Mamala Harris, thank you for making the correct choice.
I think this was a poor pick. Penn’s governor was a good candidate, but also didn’t have the George Flyod riots in his political past. You’re already seeing Republicans key in on that.
Shapiro is also very anti-Palestine and centrist so… nobody wants him if they can have Walz instead. Walz has accomplished far more positive things than Shapiro.
We need actual social democrats. The great things our nation has weren’t the things brought on by centrism, but by progressives like FDR. Tim Walz is just that kind of guy. Democrats need people who won’t dedicate their career to attempting bipartisanship or “reaching across the aisle” when the other side of the aisle is the alt-right, and they need someone who isn’t controlled by corporate money. Because that kind of refusal to fight back against the right is what got the US into the mess it’s in now. Tim Walz doesn’t sucker up to fascists, as opposed to centrist Democrats.
Shapiro has a sexual harassment coverup allegation (for a close aide, not himself) and what appears to be serious mismanagement of a stabbing case, where a woman’s death was initially ruled a murder, but ultimately his office refused to re-examine the case. It’s going before the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and might be heard before the election. Harris doesn’t need an October Surprise to derail her momentum if it makes Shapiro look bad.
Huh I didn’t know about that. Maybe Walz is a better pick then.
Everybody anxious about a VP Shapiro can finally get a little bit of sleep now lol
What’s the nervousness about with regards to him?
Mostly about Gaza. Iirc he was rough on shutting down protests and is pretty pro Israel in general. Not sure if he ever commented on Palestinian civilians directly.
He has a lot of baggage that has the potential to tank the ticket and stifle the positive trajectory Kamala has going. Part of her momentum is hoping for a better stance on Gaza compared to Biden and Shapiro would be harmful for that image. You can argue some of it isn’t justified, but politics is more emotional than rational and even past that some of his negatives are tough to swallow - like response to protestors, school vouchers, potential cover-up of an aides sexual misconduct…
It’s just an unnecessarily vulnerable pick.
So assuming Harris and Walz are going to be more difficult for Netanyahu to negotiate with, does this increase chances of a ceasefire in Gaza?
I would think that it is more likely for Netanyahu to do something desperately stupid before the US election to try to change the conversation. Like start a war with Iran as the October surprise…
Probably.
Waltz is a Zionist too, just not as zealous as Shapiro. I see no reason to believe the future will look any different from the current administration’s policies. Aka unconditional support for Israel with a couple strongly worded statements every once in a while
When he served in the House from 2007-2019, he frequently took pro-Israel votes, including voting to condemn a United Nations resolution affirming that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal
Mark Mellman, the chairman of Democratic Majority for Israel’s super PAC, praised Harris’ selection of Walz in a statement, calling him a “proud pro-Israel Democrat with a strong record of supporting the U.S.-Israel relationship.”
Walz has never diverged from the party line of unconditionally supporting Israel, a position illustrated by his comments earlier this year at an event held by the Jewish Community Relations Council.
“The ability of Jewish people to self-determine themselves is foundational … The failure to recognise the state of Israel is taking away that self-determination. So it is anti-Semitic,” he said.
Thanks, makes sense.
Yeah people were assuming it was him because of the announcement being in Philly when it’s probably just a scheduling question
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I was hoping it was Kelly or Walz over Shapiro.
To me, as Bernie Sanders flavored “Socialist”, Walz is an amazing pick.
However I had a preference for Kelly since I strongly believe that his history as an astronaut and his popularity in a state like AZ could help drive a lot of independent voters to the Democrat’s platform come November.
All that said, progressives know that progressive policy is also extremely popular when messaged broadly and communicating the benefits to the invidual and country. Hopefully Kamama & Walz use their experince with their A* campaign team to drive that home. And then fucking deliver.
I believe Walz is a good pick because he’ll drive the more apathetic voters into the voting booths. He helps keep the momentum of hope Harris has going for her right now. Plus Kelly will hop onboard anyway.
This is a side of the old Blue buffoons I wish we had seen years ago.
Kelly would have been a political disaster. His gun control stance would alienate a lot of pro-gun moderates and his Senate seat would almost certainly end up going to a Republican.
Shapiro would have been the politically safest choice because he’d all but guarantee Pennsylvania, which Harris needs to win. But his handling of college protests has been disgusting.
Walz is a great pick. Veteran, teacher, football coach, Congressman, and Governor is a heck of a resume. He was also the highest-ranked enlisted man to ever serve in Congress.
He has also been willing to defy his party. He sided against the party with the bank and GM bailouts, and was even endorsed by the NRA until they became 100% partisan.
He’s like a less-privileged, Democratic John McCain.
However I had a preference for Kelly
They didn’t want to pull an incumbent Democratic Senator in a swing state. Too risky.
Kamama
I like it.
Me moo
Her stepkids call her Mamala.
Not sure why, but learning this was one of the most humanizing thing I’ve seen about almost any politician.
Apparently Hillary Clinton really likes spicy foods. She ate raw jalapenos like potato chips on the campaign trail, according to one aid.
For some reason this just makes me sad I love spicy food too, not make her more likeable… That’s almost definitely on my biases against her from the '16 primaries tho.
Who knows, maybe if you had a chance to chat with her over a nice meal of spicy food, you could find some common ground (besides the food). Or if nothing else, she has some interesting stories. Like, when she was starting out she worked as a civil rights activist in Alabama proving that “segregation academies” were discriminating against Black applicants in violation of the law. They openly assured her that they would not let Black students in. More broadly, this proved that the Nixon administration was not enforcing the law.
Health care, I’m sure she has plenty to say that is far more nuanced than the sound bites that get posted to social media. Social mobility, educational opportunity, racial justice, the justice system, foreign policy. I would love to hear her thoughts, even if I don’t agree with everything.
It really says a lot that all you did was mention a progressive thing she did and this seems to have upset several people who still want to cling to their GOP implanted delusion that she is the neoliberal devil.
Dude, dinner and a frank conversation with Hillary Clinton would be one of the highlights of my life. She has seen some shit.
Did Sean get her on Hot Ones yet?
Alas, no. She did do an interview with Between Two Ferns, though.
It’s an interesting pick for sure. I was also thinking Kelly as the obvious, safe answer to score cheap points and also maybe shore up AZ. Walz is more of an optimistic, less cynical pick that leans into the progressive side further. It’s possible that’s what’s needed to keep the momentum going.
I think Kelly was the best political pick for sure. But Kelly is sure to win again in AZ. They need his vote in the Senate.
And that’s McCain’s seat; not a safe blue one. It’s the right call. Everyone is good moving into the election. Smooth, competent, unified as everything needs to be to ensure our democracy survives Trump and his MAGA cult.
I really like Walz partially because he’s not the obvious pick for political maneuvering. It indicates he was picked because he was the right choice, not just because it was politically expedient. Shapiro and Kelly could both be dismissed as just chosen to win a state, not because they’re actually the best choice to serve as VP.
Wondered where I remembered him from, it was this juxtaposition of photos:
Additional context: around the same time Governor Walz (upper) was signing a bill for guaranteed school lunches the Governer of Arkansas (lower) was signing a bill rolling back protections on child labor.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/gov-tim-walz-signs-universal-school-meals-bill-into-law/
Gov. Tim Walz signs universal school meals bill into law
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Arkansas Gov. Sanders signs a law that makes it easier to employ children
I literally laughed out loud when I read the second headline. The kids faces says it all.
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That photo of him! Every person in it is so genuinely happy! Brought tears to my eyes.
Whoa whoa whoa. So Harris is laffin, and Walz is smilin??? Too much happiness.
Yeah I know I’m well into auntie territory because I had the same reaction.
Hot Damn! The DNC didn’t fuck up so fucking happy to be wrong and she didn’t pick Shapiro.
I’m shocked, honestly. Shapiro is the canonical post-Clinton Democrat, all the consent manufacturers were clearly pulling for him.
As one of the leftmost members of the D voting coalition its a strange feeling to not be getting continuously shat upon.
Well then every gd progressive who says there are so many better get off their asses and vote then.
Not upset about the pick in the least but this is progressives time to shine.
Edit- you all act as if Im rooting against that. I actually want a ton of normal non-voters to actually come out and vote for Harris-walz
Yeah well lets hope this all true. All the articles are saying "sources close to " I want to hear it from her mouth. Regardless I am excited about voting for the first time since 2016 when Bernie first ran. Lets fucking go! Only thing stopping us now is if the GOP cheat which I hear they already planning a coup using the courts so lets make it such a huge landslide they can’t win that way.
She posted it to her Instagram:
.Awesome! Thank you I had not seen that.
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No way in hell they would have picked Shapiro. People would get him mixed up with Ben Shapiro. It’s absurd he was even in the running.
Those poor kids going to work in the mines in the lower pic.
They want to be at home playing Roblox, but their parents made them wear ties and have their hair slicked into place. All to support a bill where they’re going to be playing less Roblox.
I would also point out, not to give Huckabee any credit, but the silver lining of that bill might allow kids trying to gain freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own (although 14/15 seems super young regardless - they couldn’t without someone signing off otherwise). The downsides is parents forcing kids to go to work in dangerous jobs (to your point).
freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own
While i see what you’re saying, i think the lede is buried. the important change in law is here:
The state also no longer has to verify the age of those under 16 before they take a job.
The state isn’t even checking how old these children are. And the younger a kid is, the more easily they are exploited. And the power dynamic between boss and kiddo is worse. All this will do is make kids easy to exploit
I don’t have to tell y’all, right? How many hours got stolen from you as kids? Or what kind of crap did you put up with before you knew better?
Without laws letting child workers maintain their own bank account in their own name without parents being co owners allowed to drain it at any time, children working become money pinatas for abusive parents.
I say this as someone who would have benefitted from being independent earlier. My uncle did have me work at 14, and when I went to the bank I found he had stolen every penny, and because I was a minor I had no legal recourse to get it back.
A few years later the courts emancipated me, but it didn’t return the money he had stolen. Mind you, he was not working at the time himself and he got a few hundred from the state a month to care for me, and he spent what he stole on computer parts so he could game.
Children working only is in the child’s benefit if there are ironclad laws allowing them to keep their money, and right now there is not.
The one kid totally has “wtf?” face going on. I feel bad for those kids. Their parents are all probably total scum bags.
Is he in the Sarah Huckabee photo? I don’t recognize him if he is. That article doesn’t even mention him.
No he isn’t, it’s comparing the two, one is Walz (D) signing a law to bring free lunches for school children in his state, the other is sarah huckabee ® signing a law to claw back child labor laws in her state
I’m not really sure why that would be relevant in this context. Was Huckabee running for VP? Why include her?
Primarily because I was sharing how the photos are linked in my memory.
They’re also chronologically similar, happening within a week of each.
Lastly, they demonstrate stark differences in policies: a win for the new VP pick who, in my opinion, shows someone who actually cares about children and families.
Ok but do you know how many US Governors there are? 55. You picked one at random and threw it into a comment about a totally different person, place, and circumstance. People might mistakenly think Walz was somehow involved in that shitshow.
I can see this from your perspective now, perhaps my context was lacking. I felt it evident as a recollection but those without the context may misinterpret.
Edit: I’ve added context, thanks for pressing your point!
As another perspective - it took me a moment or two to work out what was happening in the second picture, but then the whole tableau made sense to me!
I was being a little too aggressive about it, I had a long morning. Sorry.
It took me a bit of morning brain fog processing to understand the context. But then it hit me.
Tim Walz has a history of delighting and helping people, and the excitement of the people (especially the kids) in the room we elated and the picture captured that.
In the other picture, the people that were being "helped’ (again the kids) looked unimpressed and even a little letheragic.
It’s a comparison of how one person & their party can excite & delight while the other person & their party depress.
Just gonna drop this here…
https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-and-writing-basics/reading-comprehension
There was a ton of ambiguity in the initial statement. I had to read the statement twice and look at the pictures for a moment before I understood the context in my daily morning brain fog. So I don’t fault them for asking their initial question.
What I do fault them for is doubling down after the explanations.
Between the response to this ticket and the big antitrust win today, this is the most optimistic I’ve been about the direction of American politics in a very long time.
Is…is this… Is this what hope feels like? 😔
Doesn’t matter if we don’t actually go vote.
So to clarify (after the double negative), it DOES matter to actually go vote.
Yes. Your vote matters.
Whatever it is im killing it before it gets infectious, good work is never done and complacency ensures it wont be strong.
…Obama had kinda a nice butt
I’m in absolute shock that the Dems didn’t go with Shapiro.
Almost feels like those hopeful Bernie days. Happy to know Walz was his pick too.
My sister used to be the head of the environmental department of one of the suburbs of Minneapolis. She’s met Tim Walz a few times, and has had nothing but good things to say about both his personality and his attitude toward the environment. The US has pretty slim pickings for good politicians these days, but I really feel that Tim is on that list. I’m feeling hopeful about American politics for the first time since I learned about how American politics works!
This is the most hopeful I’ve felt about an election, and I’ve been voting since 1996.
There are some people who actively try to make you feel like politics in the US is hopelessly broken and you might as well just give up. There are many, many people who just want to make things better, whether that’s at the federal, state, local, or hyperlocal level. They might disagree on how to do it, and the best ones are the ones that know how to come up with a reasonable compromise when disagreements arise. If you’re interested, always look for opportunities.
