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lol I can see why they would do that
FYI, Instagram was blocked in Turkey a few days before Roblox ban. Both are still blocked.
Based Turkey.
I’ve always thought roblox was dumb, but its kind of just a playground. Kids need a playground where their imaginations are free to grow and thy’re in control. Somewhere they can interact and learn how to socialize safely with other children. When i was a kid, that was a walk to the park with friends to kick a ball around, riding a bicycle somewhere, exploring, and working out some dumb activities to do… Honest question: how comfortable are you with the idea of just letting your kids go to the park by themselves for hours on end?
For better or worse, it seems like sandbox creativity games like roblox are filling that void for some kids. Not saying roblox is an answer to a problem, just that kids seem to be utilizing it as a playground where they get to be creative and in control. Not sure why I’m bringing this up. It’s just a thought that occurred to me recently.
Kids deserve to have games like Roblox, but they don’t deserve to be exploited financially by them by child labour and gambling mechanics.
As always, the answer to child welfare is to prevent them interacting directly with capitalism and markets. Children should always be given a communist upbringing with free food, shelter, clothes, healthcare, education, and recreation.
Broken clock moment for Erdy
Seriously.
Now let’s do it everywhere.
At least he cares about Palestinians. Unlike Kamala. Mrs. “Shut up, I’m talking”.
And I could say at least Kamala doesn’t have all her political opponents locked up. I wouldn’t do that though because boiling a politician down to a single issue doesn’t make any sense.
Maybe not to you, but when 15,000 children have been murdered and an entire population is starving, then boiling a politician down to a single issue does make sense to me.
Typical American apathetic to genocide.
Typical tankie lying about what they care about.
Would you have an idea about what they would care about? Like are they just virtue signaling hard? Why not?
Like I could see Russians or Chinese or Republicans pushing this point just to sow division on the Israel point. But why “tankies”? Maybe I should just google it
people claiming to care about Palestinians but then encouraging votes against them. Voting any way but for Harris will harm them and that’s easy to reason through but they don’t care. Ergo they do not give an actual flying fuck about any Palestinian, they just want to be seen as doing so.
I think there’s a lot you should google.
Oh, it’s not sarcasm
To be fair to you, yes. But, also. Why?
I’m not apathetic, I’ve actively contacted my representatives demanding a cease fire. I’ve donated for aid for Gaza. Considering what Erdogan has done to the Kurds I find you argument extra rich. By all means continue to act all self righteous when I will be the one who has to deal with the other guy if you keep carrying water for his campaign.
Done more than the user just spreading hatred
You can do the right thing for the wrong reasons and this is a classic case. He’s an ethno-nationalist. Ask him how he feels about Kurdish minorities or the genocide of Armenians.
Is this sarcasm? This feels like sarcasm.
Tankie bullshit
You asked Joe Biden to step down and you got what you wanted. Good job, be happy.
Why? I don’t know anything about the game, is it bad for kids?
It’s bad and it’s kids. Like, the game is no better if you doin’t aim it at kids, but the fact they intentionally employ child labor as a gamified device is just disgusting.
It’s a game designed for kids with not enough moderation/limitations for a kids game. There’s literal porn games if you look in the right places (called ‘condo games’)
Yeah, the other problem with these kinds of open-ended social games that are heavily aimed at children is that adults who want to exploit children will play those games for that express purpose.
Same issue with games like VRChat, and to a less extent, Fortnite.
They exploit kids for free labor among other things.
https://www.eurogamer.net/roblox-exploiting-young-game-developers-new-investigation-reports
Will someone please explain to me how a video game exploits children.
You could start with this People Make Games video from a couple of years ago. https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=Ttg4-Bust1K-X-22
I said explain. It’s this old school thing we used to do where we JUST TELL A PERSON SOMETHING
Obvious bad faith argument
I get what you are saying, and actually agree with out. But you don’t have to be an asshole about it. No one has the obligation to attend your tantrums.
Children make games on Roblox (real games, the thing people do working in the industry), Roblox makes money off those games and pays close to nothing to the children. Therefore, exploits children.
This comment is such a beautifully concise argument for the existence of block buttons. Toodles~
No we didn’t. Telling people something was invented in 2016 by russian bots in Kamchatka on Twitter.
Watch the video or feed it into ChatGPT for a summary or Google a pre-existing summary.
Get a life, guy
I’m not the one going around begging peeps for explanations
The video is an explanation.
The video is an explanation, none of us want to regurgitate multiple 30-45 minute videos that already explain exactly what your asking.
Sometimes, there are already resources explaining more clearly and thoroughly than we could. And although I’m unsure if this case qualifies, there are definitely topics that can’t be reduced to a few sentences. Thus, a reputable link is often worth more to both sides: it saves the explainer time and effort while informing the target far better.
If you don’t want to engage with the content, I believe there are better ways to go about it than being rude to people who were likely trying to help.
Read the article and find out
Just give me the broad strokes
Lemme compile it all into a 20 second tiktok video
Stop expecting handouts with 0 effort especially when the answer is one tap away.
Jeeze, he must work for Roblox with that level of expected free labor…
Kids make maps. Stuff in the maps is sold for Roblox bucks. Roblox bucks cost money to buy. The kid who makes the map gets the Roblox bucks, and can sell them. The problem is you only get 30% back when you sell a Roblox buck.
So kids spend time making big maps and servers, buying ads, getting shoutouts on YouTube/whatever, and Roblox takes a 70% cut from all of it
Isn’t it more like 20%
Sounds like a normal business that gives kids a chance to make money.
The children yearn for the mines
A normal business, yes. Normal businesses are highly and cruelly exploitative, which is why we decided 80 years ago (in the US) that children, at the very least, should be protected from them.
Its exploiting child labor and the impulsive brain chemistry of adolescence.
Fair enough, but couldn’t the same be said about YouTube? They also take the biggest cut of the ad money for creators.
Yes. Using kids to drive engagement on YouTube is exploitative. Parents who do that are exploiting their children
But what about…? Doesn’t excuse the first thing!
Why did anyone read my comment as an excuse? I was pointing two fingers instead of one on Roblox.
“labor” 😂
Doesn’t matter what you call it. It’s profitable and you know that’s what’s meant.
What would you call it when a child does work that you profit from?
Is labor. There is a whole market of Roblox related things, there are job sites, freelance sites that employ kids to work on design/programming/marketing of these game modes. To pay them the game currency that maybe later can be traded for real money.
Is not just kids tinkering with the game.
Can’t tell if you’re kidding.
You must not be just a troll… but a mountain troll
These guys explain it well, let them:
To Roblox: Being “child friendy” gives you controversies. You reap what you sowed.
I regret to inform you that this news is: BASED
This org needs a revival so that people can move away from roblox
Nice.
Lol nice
Lol when you agree with a ban that turkey made thats a strange day. Maybe a ban is a bit too much but roblox is shitty and they should be pressured to change… and this applies to most large companies
So this sounds like a parent problem.
I hate being tuekish man. Thks is my last year in this country.
I mean, in this particular case, they’re right. Roblox is predatory AF.
they banned instagram a week prior. They wil ban more
Based.
No. It isn’t abouf if I personally liked these services or not. This is cencorship. Even my mail service proton is banned in turkey it’s impossible to use the internet without a vpn here it’s a cencorship state.
Personally like/dislike =! Perpetuates child abuse.
If they ban a service without a guideline off what laws the companies should abide or either not giving a national alternative is totally fucked but otherwise I hope more countries start to limit what big companies can do within their territories.
it definetly is the first thing you mentioned. they ban shit on a whim
most people are focusing on the free labour roblox is extracting from kids but from the article:
Further claims stated, according to Turkish media, that Roblox hosted virtual parties promoting pedophilia and that “robux,” the platform’s virtual currency, was being distributed by bot accounts to encourage children’s involvement in these activities, and excess presence of gambling sites and their predatory tactics.
so it looks like roblox was banned because of bad moderation in regards to gambling and sexual predators, both of which are massive issues of the platform. overall i think this is a good move which hopefully will push roblox to do better.
thanks for that. not gonna let the littles get on roblox until they are older
Roblox is just knockoff exploitative gmod. Only reason it keeps going is because its free to download.
More annoyed it hasn’t been banned or sued under other consumer protection laws.
You are smoking crack if you think Roblox is a gmod knockoff, but everything else, unfortunately, yeah. I played Roblox in 2012 and it was pretty fun at 11 years old but the pay2win stuff was out of control even back then.
There were a few weird roleplay servers but back then it really just felt like “playing house” online, but the fact that anyone regardless of age could hop in at any time and send socials was fucking weird to me even as a kid.
It needs a serious rework of how the platform works if they want to continue marketing themselves as for children. The game has seen barely any safety improvements from what I’ve seen of current gameplay and mfs are wilin on the internet nowadays