Birth rates have dropped 20% since 2007. I don’t think we ever came back from the '08 crash. It’s just been smoke and mirrors.
Honestly I’ve watched my brother and his wife raise a kid for 7 years and another for 2, and it’s stressed them the absolute fuck out. Totally changed them. I also only know only maybe 3 or 4 people who have a good relationship with their parents. I have a bad one with my own mom. Just seems like you could put in all this effort, stress yourself out every single day for a long time, eliminate any personal time for yourself, have no guarantee that they won’t rely on you for even longer (like my alcoholic sister at 34 still living with my mom), they will probably turn out politically opposite to you (so in my case a liberal or fascist), and not to mention how expensive it would be + by the time they’re old enough to have their own lives, the world will be even more on fire and unlivable. I just do not see the upside
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We just need to remind them that Jesus was a communist
ideology doesn’t work that way. mayo pete and copmala had based parents, lots of our greatest activists come from chud households.
70% of kids adopt the political views of their parents, Pete and Kamala are anecdotal and likely because they didn’t pursue academia.
70% of statistics are made up.
vanishingly few of us here had commie parents. the primary growth of the radical left is surely recruitment, not reproduction.
I don’t know how likely that becomes when the majority of people having kids are in insular communities with heavy media consumption regulation and home schooling
My parents are socdem-y, my grandparents are commie.
vanishingly few of us here had commie parents
because there are vanishingly few commie parents in the west
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I’d venture to guess that the degree to which that might be true has more to do with socioeconomic conditions and culture than heritability.
Ideology is stored in the
balls9nth chromosome.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I wouldn’t want kids in this economy either.
Oh you want babies? Well I want trains.
I propose a prisoner exchange.
I decided against having children because of the fear of bringing more children into a world that’s progressively growing more unstable due to climate change.
This. It’s becoming more and more impossible to live a decent life even within the imperial core and nothing points to that changing anytime ever, so having children seems like a pretty damn selfish and/or idiotic idea.
It’s a shame too, because I like children and really think there should be more inter-generational contact between people in different stages of their lives.
Also even if society wasn’t falling off a fucking cliff within the next fifty years, I wouldn’t really want to have children in a fortnite/YouTube kids/tiktok world either. Just fully blasting developing brains with skinner boxes and max engagement at all times isn’t fucking cool or good. Just let them watch sesame Street.
Besides being gay myself, I saw what was coming growing up and thought it would be especially cruel to raise someone in a doomed world and decreasing quality of life. I never had any desire of have kids.
There are valid reasons in the comments here, but a lot of people I talk to genuinely are interested in being parents, but don’t have the funds to even provide for themselves. It’s entirely about the money. Give people money and they will have kids. It isn’t hard.
There’s no reason to believe this. You literally cannot pay people to have kids. theres no evidence that this would work on a large scale. when women have more education and freedom they choose to have less kids its that simple. most afab people simply dont want to be broodmares pumping out 2.5 kids.
I didn’t mean this in a transactional sense. I agree you cannot pay people to have kids and I agree that, with reproductive freedom and personal autonomy as an option, many fewer afab people will have kids than the historical average.
My observation is that it isn’t uncommon for single people and couples capable of becoming pregnant to express a desire to have children, but have reservations that are purely financial.
i love you you fully concede your point right? and then say “oh well people ive talked to say this”. like what am i supposed to say? what do you want me to say here? im too autistic for this response. im not being sarcastic im being sincere. im just too burnt out to even continue this weird neurotypical politeness game that makes no sense. you give me a personal anecdote that goes against all available evidence. im too fucking autistic i wish people just communicated in ways that made sense.
Elon Musk: NO WAGES JUST BABIES
People don’t talk enough about how having children is a privilege that the rich enjoy. Yes, you can have kids and be poor (and many do, no hate to our parent comrades), but it costs so much money to have children and if you do it whilst being poor you have to sacrifice so much that would be absolutely nothing to a rich family.
And then rich parents do shit like end pandemic protections because they’re sick of their kids being at home all the time
Seeing a family with three kids is such an insane flex
Anyone else remember how “having kids you can’t afford” was apparently the root of all social ills for several decades?
I remember that all over the TV.
“Oh you can’t afford it” " oh you don’t have time between your 2 jobs" “Oh you don’t have a a big enough space” " then don’t have kids"x3 So all of us growing said yeah legit Now they all surprise pikachu face.
good, fewer first worlders is probably the best thing possible for the climate
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Yep, that’s my reasoning. Sure, the idea of an individual carbon footprint is almost entirely propaganda to keep people from executing fossil fuel executives in the streets, but increasing your emissions by ~50% per kid seems like a big enough difference to matter.
That and not wanting to bring a child into a country that is on a perpetual slope towards ever-greater fascism.
Honestly first-worlders who gripe about carbon footprints being bullshit can be easily dismissed as idiots who don’t grasp the scale of the problem. Their personal lifestyle will have to change massively. A single cross-country flight emits more carbon than citizens of some poor countries emit in an entire year.
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I don’t think we ever came back from the '08 crash.
Job prospects have been about the same since the 08 crash: no one is hiring.
Not to mention wages have been going downward since the 80s
Am childless, having a vasectomy in 5 days
I decided not to have kids after listening to literally everyone who had kids describe their experiences and not assuming they were weak, stupid or lying.
I literally never hear anything good about it.
It’s utterly exhausting and absolutely not something anyone should do without a support network, but it’s also the single most rewarding experience in my life. Nothing comes close. Making my child laugh for the first time was better than any drug I’ve ever done. But unless you’re in a good place mentally, socially, financially, don’t.
The brain chemicals hit so good
I could just do drugs
So true, honestly
even if my own experiences as a child didn’t put me off forcing someone else to exist, hearing parents talk makes it completely baffling why anyone with a choice would choose to do that to themselves.
You literally cannot imagine the doses of oxytocin and dopamine when your kid looks you in the eyes and smiles for the first time. All the wonderful moments are like a goddamn fix.
It’s literally the only reason (most) parents don’t murder their kids when they’re being shitty little assholes.
But seriously, you simply don’t realize how heady a hit of emotional bonding-feel good cocktail it is until it happens to you.
And this is coming from someone who spent half the 90s candy flipping.
Oh, I don’t know. I love having kids. It can be a lot, but nothing really touches the feeling of when you come home from work and they all rush to see you. I could see it not being for everyone, though.
