• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    8210 months ago

    If the whole performance was a troll to generate misogynist rage for her to do research on this is the best con ever.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    2310 months ago

    after seeing her paper on how the ioc and big brands are taking over breakdancing and stuff and then seeing her performances before the olympics where she is actualy p good at breakdancing i gotta say im in the camp that thinks this is a form of protest shes doing to deligitimize olympics breakdancing and the corporatization of it

  • mechwarrior2 [he/him]
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    5010 months ago

    Haters: nooo you must abide the extant aesthetic standards and artistic conventions ! wojak-nooo

    Her: wot if I was silly duane

  • Egon [they/them]
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    10 months ago

    “It’s supposed to be shit” is and will almost always be a bullshit excuse in my eyes. It’s on par with “it’s just a prank, bro” and “it’s a social experiment.” Performance art is brilliant and fantastic and doing something badly isn’t that, it’s just lazy.

    You’re not deconstructing anything by doing it badly, you’re just doing it badly. If all your “deconstruction” is doing is asking “what is [concept] really?”
    Then you’re a boring person asking boring questions. Or at least 9 times outta 10 it’s boring, because I do love the ship of Theseus.

    • danisth [he/him]
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      2010 months ago

      I think that “it’s supposed to be shit” can be good when it comes from an artist that has the ability to do it well. No idea if this is the case for Raygun, but it’d be interesting to me if she had proven her chops elsewhere then decided to put on a horrible act.

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      1210 months ago

      In 2019, I bought a cheap guitar at a pawn shop. Over the course of the following year, I swapped out the neck, the tuners, the pickups, the controls, the jack, and the bridge. Is it still the same guitar?

      • Egon [they/them]
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        610 months ago

        I always have an issue with the use of the words “the same” because it kinda ruins it for me, because like it objectively isn’t “the same” it’s the guitar with some things changed about it.

        Is it the guitar you picked up at a pawn shop though? Yeah it is. It is still the guitar

        • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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          310 months ago

          Is it still that guitar if I swap out the body for a new one? What if that also requires a pickguard swap? What if the tremolo cavity plate no longer fits and I need to swap that out, too?

          • Egon [they/them]
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            310 months ago

            Yeah, I think so. You’re the one who makes it that guitar, so as long as it is that guitar to you, then it is. Repairs and replacements are part of the life you live with it, the travels you have together. I would say it wasn’t “that guitar” if you swapped it out wholesale. How do you feel about it?
            The answer gets more tricky if we say you’re a famous musician and when you die, society decides to keep your guitar, because then who is it that makes the guitar the guitar, and what if they disagree?
            Or that we say it breaks in two and you repair the two halves into two seperate guitars (personally I’d say the guitar wasn’t no more and you’d used it to fix up two other guitars).
            I wrote out a bunch of the hypotheticals not too long ago, I’ll see if I can find them, if you want

            • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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              310 months ago

              I would say it wasn’t “that guitar” if you swapped it out wholesale.

              This is the joke. The body and a couple of plastic bits are all that remain from the original pawn shop find because I kept finding shit that was either broken, unusable, or in need of so much rework that it made more sense to just get new parts, resulting in an almost entirely different instrument from what I initially bought. I almost have enough bits to rebuild the original guitar and dump it off on some other sap with poor impulse control, but it probably has more use value as (carcinogenic) firewood.

              • Egon [they/them]
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                310 months ago

                This is the joke.

                No i understand that, but what I mean by “swapped out” is that you replace all the parts of the guitar at once.

          • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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            410 months ago

            It’s conceptually the same guitar if you think it is

            It’s the same idea of “what is a chair”? You are the one who perceives an arrangement of wood in a particular way as being a chair. Heck, you’re the one who conceptualizes a certain arrangement of organic molecules to be “wood” in the first place