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Apk Link: https://cdn.organicmaps.app/apk/OrganicMaps-24081605-GooglePlay.apk
Note: If you don’t want to deal with stuff like this, I recommend you download and use it from F-Droid client or Accrescent AppStore.
Update: The app returned to the App Store.
Maybe it was a mix up? I just checked their website and clicked on the link they had for playstore and then downloaded it from there.
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The amount of corporate control that has slowly and insidiously crept into our lives will never cease to amaze me.
Capitalism baby. Gotta cannibalize, monopolize, and enshittifize for maximum profits.
giggles in F-Droid
“Ooh rah”
Google is corrupt
This app is great. If it offered some sort of traffic aware navigation routing I would use it as my daily driver. I live in the city and traffic conditions can make a huge difference. Unfortunately, I don’t think it has this capability. Hopefully someday.
Magic Earth has traffic. That’s the reason why I use it instead of Organic Maps.
I have looked at the routing on routes I regularly drive and it seems like Magic Earth has a better routing algorithm than Organic Maps. At least it doesn’t try to send me through the middle of a town when there is a route around the town using the highway as Organic Maps often tries to do.
The problem with live traffic awareness is, that it needs a lot of data to be collected all the time, something only Google or Apple with their monopolistic and privacy invasive ppwer can do. How it works (simplified) is that Google can detect if a lot of phones are on the same street and therefore assumes traffic. This data is, however, proprietary to Google. A FOSS App has the following problems:
- Too small of a userbase, to reliably track something
- Privacy conscious userbase, not wanting to be tracked
- If it had auch a feature, it would be opt-in, as FOSS does (usually) not try to be as evil as Google&Co.
- Usually limited server capacity to calculate if an aggregation is traffic
Solutions would be:
- Google is forced to make the data publicly available per API as part of some anti-monopolistic ruling
- A thrid party (e.g. cities) have their own monitoring of traffic and give public access to it.
So sadly similar dunctionality will not come in the near future in any FOSS app.
I’d be willing to share anonymized data as part of a collective traffic data alternative to Google. I imagine there would still be data fees associated with this data collection. We just really need to get an open source alternative to gmaps going. Gmaps is only getting worse. Like, what if something like Street Complete was also able to collect traffic data and feed it into a sharable database?
Alternatively, I wonder if they could buy traffic data from a third party like Garmin or something. I’d be willing to pay a small monthly fee to get away from Google.
Waze was able to do it (before Google bought them).
Waze still does it.
The data pulled in by Waze is independent from the data pulled in by Google Maps.
Waze doesn’t use Google’s traffic data, but Google does read data out of Waze’s.
Yet somehow Waze still has more accurate real time traffic info in the app.
So, what about OSMand. Or Magic Earth. Or any other map app?
Osmand is the best but it’s complicated and has too many features for a casual maps user. It’s UI is not that bad as others suggest. I have both installed cause organic maps doesn’t support saving routes/tracks.
I think OpenTracks could be a good lightweight alternative for simply saving tracks.
I have that too but i just use osmand cause it’s more convenient to just create a route for bike. I use open tracks when I need to track my speed, distance, etc.
Honestly the osm ecosystem is really good. Best part is it’s always getting better.
No opinion on OSMand but Magic Earth is proprietary which is a deal breaker for me.
They’re not “good enough” - they dont provide the same comfy UI/UX that google maps and organic maps does. And organic maps is offline, so literally no data harvesting.
I prefer the UI of Magic Earth than Organic Maps. And ME also has offline maps/navigation, given that it also uses OSM.
If this story blows up, organic maps is going to get so many more downloads and hopefully contributions.
I have been eyeing this crowd sourced map thing for a week or two. When I read this headline today I learned there was a centralized app for it. I immediately downloaded it.
It’s called OpenStreetMap and there are many apps for it! Organic Maps is a good one and I like it for when I go abroad and want to preload an entire country instead of downloading maps on my paltry 33 or whatever gigs of roaming allowance (that also only works in the EU - if I want to visit the US, I get to pay out the ass for 250 MB or 1 GB at a time)
Long shot, but does anyone know of any mapping app where you can easily project a bearing/azimuth line, or a point a given bearing and distance from another point?
The only app I’ve found so far that can come close to what I need is Backcountry Navigator, which has a terrible UI. Everything else seems to be focused entirely on GPS navigation from where you are now to a known destination; I have yet to find one that allows even basic triangulation, to be able to identify the location of an observed object.
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ATAK-Civ originally developed by the U.S. Military for tactical use on Android phones. It was open-sourced and released on the Play Store several years ago.
Wow.
That’s… Awesome.
Edit: That has pretty much every major feature I’ve been looking for.
Problem is the FDroid version doesn’t work with Android Auto iirc
wtf, I just downloaded it 3 days ago
STOP THE WAR ON COMFY SOFTWARE!!!
Well glad this article brought my attention to this app. Now I can download it and remove google maps from my devices
I keep forgetting to update OM. Thanks for the reminder lol
Google can suck a tailpipe. Fdroid ftw
I can install it at this moment, so I think it was already fixed
I installed it from fdroid, is there a difference between play store and fdroid version?
I think there is no android auto due no play services
Yet another reminder that Google is an unreliable company. Install Fdroid tonavoid Google’s mistakes.
@ModerateImprovement @istanbullu F-Droid is the only way out.
Google is like China these days.