He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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    Before anyone starts getting a bit too high off their own supply Harris’s polling averages peaked on August 12th. They were stagnant or declining on the 13th and 14th, briefly spiked on the 15th, and that spike was completely undone on the 16th. Today is dropping again. Not big drops, like 1/10th of a point every other day(which day depends on which conglomerates you use), but the growth trend is over.

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      it’s also only a matter of time before Fox News finds some kind of bullshit to sink their teeth into that changes swing voters minds.

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      Agreeing that it is wise to not grow overconfident.

      We still are far from winning this battle.

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        Today is an all time high on slightly right leaning RCP, and a slight rebound on 538(But not to 12th/13th/15th levels). More like 16th or 11th evening. RCP tends to lag a bit on D rises and vice versa for 538 so we’ll see. Still suggests the overall strong growth trend passed and we’re nearing a ceiling. Not a bad ceiling, a winning ceiling, but it’s there.

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      Six days ago, The New York Times ran a story under the headline “Inside the Worst Three Weeks of Donald Trump’s 2024 Campaign.”

      You know things are bad when the worst three weeks are after an attempted assassination.

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        Or when the NY Times stops doing puff pieces on Trump or his supporters.

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      Every Communist foreign leader, but yeah, he stands right next to them in that line of idiots.

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        China and Vietnam seem to be doing pretty well as counties. China is markedly more Authoritarian than Vietnam (which is more unionist/laborist), but both are providing livability to their citizens.

        Vietnam actually has less homelessness than the US.

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          I heard China had dropped the ball on housing. Apparently home ownership is getting really cheap there. The poor fools. Tsk tsk.

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            Lets not suck the red fascists off, sons of bitches built a bunch of “tofu building” which will fall apart. Combine that with some other trite mixed in with their housing and they probably will only be cheap cause everything implodes.

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    I have to admit when I’m wrong.

    I was all for Joe staying in the race, because I didn’t think the Dems would coalesce around one candidate without a shit-show convention.

    Now I’m glad I was wrong. Just putting it out there.

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      Just another voice in the crowd to say “Same”. Herein lies one of the major differences I see with “R” vs “D”. One side sees learning and admitting mistakes as the ultimate sin, whereas the other generally embraces learning and changing a viewpoint as new information comes to light.

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        I remember writing that the Vietnam was was a terrible mistake and someone came to tell me that it was a noble cause and a moral victory.

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      Hey now, we’re only halfway there. Between Biden, Hillary and likely protesters for Palestine it can still be a shit-show convention.

      Though fiercely hope not.

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        How about addressing the ongoing support for genocide, instead of blaming it on the people protesting it?

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        Biden seems to be going all in for Harris, but according to the AP, the DNC still hasn’t updated their paperwork to reflect Biden dropping out, so it could very well end up a shit show.

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          I think Biden will be alright to be honest, even should he stumble through his speech it’s not too bad given he’s not running anymore. Just look at the joint Harris/Biden adress the other day about the pharmaceutical prices. Not a great speech by Biden, but everyone is sort of in “alright grandpa, let’s get you to bed” mode.

          The protests can get ugly, though I truly pray they won’t. But another unfortunate reaction/statement about Palestine from Harris would be bad, and worst case the protests get violent and actual fights break out - which would be bad bad.

          I also don’t see why we’re opening the Hillary box again even though it’s just a speech. But what do I know.

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        Don’t forget boogaloo fellas and local cops who have been taken in by some kind of propaganda and left-wing useful idiots who got all spun up on internet nonsense to think that the best way to help the Palestinians is to make sure Trump gets elected. I hope not, but the convention has the potential to be a fuckin atom bomb of colliding toxic forces.

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          left-wing useful idiots who got all spun up on internet nonsense to think that the best way to help the Palestinians is to make sure Trump gets elected.

          I said it before about Biden and I’ll say it again about Kamala: the one thing that could sink her chances will be to burn the bridge with pro-palestinian protestors.

          It’s not up to protestors if Kamala looses, it’s up to Kamala.

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            This is domestic abuse logic

            “I have decided to do X, which outcome will be catastrophic, if you do Y. So therefore, if you do Y, it’s going to become your fault what will happen.”

            If you wanna push the Democrats to better outcomes on Gaza, sounds fuckin great. I definitely think that the activism so far has woken them up + it’s clearly better than just the only voice they hear that has any teeth being the Israel lobby. But don’t play games with the placement of responsibility.

            Did I send you the Ralph Nader interview where he talks about how to apply this principle (specifically to the Democrats, I think specifically as pertains to Gaza) productively instead of terroristically?

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              If you wanna push the Democrats to better outcomes on Gaza, sounds fuckin great

              Then who the fuck are you complaining about?

              That’s what the protestors are doing you nag, maybe you should stop comparing them to domestic abusers

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                Then who the fuck are you complaining about?

                I am complaining about the people who are trying to make the Democrats lose the general election, with no particular plan to translate that into good action from the Democrats on Gaza, all the while congratulating themselves about what a great and noble thing they’re doing. I can cite many of them on Lemmy. I assume that they exist in the real world also, and that a bunch of them will show up this week at the convention.

                I am not complaining about the people who are trying to get better outcomes for Gaza, which does in fact include getting concessions from the Democrats including withholding support. Sounds great.

                If it’s done strategically with the aim of better outcomes for Gaza, then fuckin fantastic. If it’s done with a strategy which sort of seems accidentally like maybe it may produce mostly bad electoral outcomes for the Democrats, and not much in the way of good outcomes for Palestinians, then I don’t like it.

                It’s fair that you asked the question you asked. Now that I’ve explained a little, though, does that make sense? I can’t see how it can be a confusing point of view or anything you want to say literally anything to aside from “yes I can agree with that.”

                Here’s Nader talking about good ways to do it. Fuckin fantastic.

                Somewhere in my history is (supposedly; it’s impossible to know for sure) a Palestinian laying out in extremely passionate detail how disgusted he is with people who are using his dying countrymen to make a bad-faith political argument to try to get the guy elected who will endanger, not just his family still back home, but also his friends and family here, in the US, here and now. I looked for it a little bit but couldn’t find it. If you want to hear, I’m happy to dig it up.

                • archomrade [he/him]
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                  There is no form of activism that does not harm the reputation of those who are being protested. And since it seems we’re choosing to be vague about who it is who is supposedly crossing this imaginary boundary between good and bad faith protest, I’m going to assume it’s arbitrary, based on what you personally find uncomfortable.

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          What Kurds

          😢

          (I know about it. I’m making a dark joke.)

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          Absolutely none of those protestors believe Trump would be better for Palestine. They believe genocide is criminal, and immoral — and can’t in good conscience stand behind anyone who supports or enables it, regardless of the threat of something worse.

          It may not be diplomatic or cunning, but it isn’t rocket science. It’s called morality and conviction. Don’t be disingenuous.

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            It’s not being ‘disingenuous’ it’s about living in the real world.

            Back in the day, there were escaped slaves and women who couldn’t vote who worked for politicians who couldn’t assure them that, if elected, they would be able to actually change the laws.

            There were plenty of African Americans who volunteered for WW2, knowing first hand about the Jim Crow laws. They decided that supporting the US was the best way to stop something worse.

            If you fight against a Joe Biden, knowing that the Trump will be worse, you’re not being moral.

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            I don’t think you, or other idiots who were willing to give up their vote to allow Trump to win an destroy Palestine, have any fucking idea just how bad it will get if he wins.

            Maybe your conscious will be clear, but you will have been directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Palestinians due to your inaction.

            That is the reality.

            There is no “do nothing” here. Doing nothing is tantamount to aiding in the complete destruction of the Palestinian state and its people. You should be ashamed.

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              Well you’re wrong in multiple ways. Firstly, I’m not American. Secondly, If I were American I would’ve voted Democrat my entire life, including for Biden and any corporate whore they put forward in a skin suit — probably longer, and more well-informed about the nuances of modern American politics, than you ever will be — but just because I’ll suck it up and eat the shit sandwich doesn’t mean I’m not gonna call the Democrats corporate whores or genocide enablers, because that is what they objectively are.

              There’s a real simple solution here. Stop funding and arming a genocidal ethnostate! What a radical concept, huh?

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                I’m not American.

                Then I’ll explain how the political system works.

                A lot of people in the USA like the ethnostate and are happy to keep it going.

                If the people who oppose it try to just cut funding they will be voted out and can do nothing.

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                  A lot of people in the USA like the ethnostate and are happy to keep it going.

                  Mate, I already know America’s a proto-fascist failed state. You’re not making a solid case for the continuation of American democracy if the majority support genocide. The majority of Germans supported Hitler. But congrats, I guess?

                  Luckily for you, even with a media wholly owned and operated by an oligarchy who profits from eternal war, there is a solid division in supporting the ethnostate among the people. They just care more about domestic problems and defeating Trump than the oligarchs crimes in the middle east. It’s understandable, considering most of what the people actually want is completely ignored by politicians on both sides of the aisle anyway.

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              Maybe your conscious will be clear, but you will have been directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Palestinians due to your inaction.

              Using that logic, the people who supported Biden are directly responsible for the 40,000+ Palestinians who’ve been killed during his presidency.

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          The Repub leadership seems to be clamoring for taking actions on a spectrum between deporting protesters to Gaza or simply nuking Gaza.

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          I love how Trump’s promise to deport those protesters gets a free pass from those protesters. My brother is one of them, always ranting about “Genocide Joe” and hating the Democrats passionately despite being (ostensibly) liberal. It’s like in his universe the Republicans don’t even exist, and I just can’t understand his viewpoint.

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            It’s plain as day: They think their “conscious will be clean” and to them that’s more important than the lives of millions of Palestinians.

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            Apparently, there’s a giant far Left majority in the USA, and the only thing holding it back is the DNC.

            [better add the /s, because someone is going to explain that it is true.]

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            For those who hate clickbait:

            • Trump breaks silence on Israel’s military campaign in Gaza: ‘Finish the problem’

            “The former president has largely avoided weighing in on Gaza as President Joe Biden has faced criticism from within the Democratic coalition over his support for Israel.”

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          I would bet my next paycheck that most of them probably could not even explain what he did to the Kurds.

          Most of them didn’t know (or knew and did not care) about what Israel has been doing to Palestine for decades now, and were told that this is somehow Joe Biden’s fault or some shit.

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            To be fair (and I was a great supporter of Dark Brandon), Joe Biden has been a huge supporter of Israel including derailing Hillary Clinton’s attempt to stop settlement construction (when she was secretary of state).

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            You do realize that there are Palestinians who live in the US, yes? And they’re upset about their friends and families being slaughtered right now? And you’re turning your nose up at them and saying, “What about the Kurds, tho”

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      I’ll hold my “I was wrong” until the day the last votes are counted…

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        I don’t think we have to wait for that. Biden was 100% losing, now Kamala at least has a chance.

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      I got plenty of flak for suggesting Joe needed to go. The thing is, Kamala isn’t a perfect candidate either but holy hell the (perceived) difference in voter attitudes is absolutely palpable. With Joe we’d have had people voting Trump just to avoid falling asleep (not supporting that at all, but the average voter operates on extremely simple heuristics).

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        The big danger with Biden wasn’t people switching to Trump. It was people not voting at all. Democrats realized that would hurt down-ballot candidates, too.

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      Same here. What a pleasant surprise this whole turnaround has been. I was certainly pesimistic that the Democrats would somehow make the situation even worse, like perhaps bring Clinton back.

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      100% the same

      Dude I’ve never been so happy to be wrong as fuck

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        I’m glad everyone feels this way, I do too. I thought with Joe we had pretty solid chances of winning, but now with Kamala I think we’re going to win by a lot more than Joe won by last time around.

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        You know what the cool thing is? Those of us who were wrong for one reason or another will actually about it. We don’t pretend we were right the whole time. We don’t pretend it just didn’t happen.

        Hindsight being what it is, I’m almost wondering if the timing was planned in advance. Biden already told us he’d be a one term president. If in 10 years they came out and said “Yeah, that was the plan from day one but we couldn’t tell anyone” I would absolutely believe it.

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          I threw an idea out in response to a comment here right after Biden backed out and the more I think about, the more it seems likely to be right.

          My theory is that the DNC likely timed Biden stepping aside so it would be late enough they couldn’t hold primaries for the nominee. It came out in 2016 that the DNC was basically rigged for Clinton to win, regardless of what voters wanted. The 2016 primaries caused dissension with voters leading to lower turnout, and I think that was also somewhat true in 2020. By waiting as long as he did to back out, Biden took voter choice out of it and helped rally everyone behind Harris.

          I could absolutely be wrong, but every time I run it through my head it feels more likely to be true. And if I’m right, it is a bit sleazy. However, I have to admit I’m surprised and impressed by how it’s turned out. I didn’t expect people to rally so strongly behind Kamala, and I’m excited to be a part of it!

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            It wasn’t “rigged” for Clinton (and I thought she was not a good candidate).

            Bernie lost because less people voted for him.

            If it wasn’t for the undemocratic caucuses, he would have lost earlier. For example, he won the Washington caucus but got crushed in the primary (which had massively higher turn out).

            The fact of the matter is that the broader electorate wasn’t as left-wing as Lemmy or /r/politics is.

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              Do you not remember all the leaks showing extreme bias towards Clinton, derision of Sanders, and even deals between Clinton and the DNC?

              The emails and documents showed that the Democratic Party’s national committee favored Clinton over … Bernie. … The leaks resulted in allegations of bias against Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign in apparent contradiction with the DNC leadership’s publicly stated neutrality, as several DNC operatives openly derided Sanders’s campaign and discussed ways to advance Hillary Clinton’s nomination. Later reveals included controversial DNC–Clinton agreements dated before the primary, regarding financial arrangements and control over policy and hiring decisions. source

              Or that DNC leaders argued in court that they didn’t need to hold impartial primaries and could select whatever candidate they wanted?

              … DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate. source

              For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates “go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way, the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle. source

              At the end of the day, yes, Bernie got fewer votes. But that is a small part of the iceberg, ignoring all the things that led up to it and all the biases at play in the organization putting the vote on in what I would (and did) call a “rigged” primary.

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              The primary was rigged before it even began. Typically when there’s no incumbent you’ll see several politicians make a run for the nomination. But 2016 was different. Hilary and the DNC went around to all of the presidential hopefuls in 2015 and basically told them to sit this one out because it’s her turn. Hilary was supposed to waltz her way to the nomination uncontested because they didn’t want a repeat of 2008. The only reason we got the Hilary vs. Sanders contest at all is because Sanders was an outsider so he didn’t get the memo (or perhaps they didn’t consider him a serious threat).

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          I think you’re underestimating the effect power has on the psyche.

          Sure, Biden said he would be a one term president. Sure, the DNC will do anything including breaking its own rules to avoid allowing anyone left of center to be the nominee.

          But when you’re in the most powerful position in the world (Biden’s donors), you want to keep going.

          I think Biden really is just too old and his brain is not working properly and he has health issues, which I believe is the only reason he stepped down, and if those in power beside him did not threaten to force him out of power in an embarrassing way, he would have been happy to have the chance to lose the election and end democracy.

          Even right up to the debate, people were repeating ad naseum the absurd lie from the DNC and cable news, that Biden is the only candidate who can beat Trump.

          Look at Feinstein. The people pushing her wheelchair were absolutely ready to have her run for another term, with fucking dementia or whatever her health issue is……

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            Maybe! I’m not really advocating that thought, I’m just saying it wouldn’t surprise me. And I’m pretty happy to say I was wrong in thinking the DNC would be a total shit show of competing interests. She’s not my perfect candidate, but honestly no one is and I’m not going to let perfect be the enemy of good. Plus I like Walz.

            Look at Feinstein. The people pushing her wheelchair were absolutely ready to have her run for another term, with fucking dementia or whatever her health issue is……

            That was one of the most fucked up things I’ve ever seen in politics. She was more mostly dead than Westley in The Princess Bride.

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              I’m torn, I really like Walz, but I also can’t in good conscience vote for someone who supports the genocide in Gaza.

              I’m very thankful I live in a blue state.

              I’m open to Harris walz but I need something to happen to end this genocide before I can take them seriously.

              I’m so glad folks are getting excited about Harris walz though….

              Edit: I suppose downvoting this comment means you openly support genocide, so I could give fuck all other than seeing how sad and pathetic your life must be to be in full support of suffering of this scale. 138,000 dead Palestinians, which is most likely a very low estimate, close to 10% of the population is now dead.

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                As a preface to this, I’m not the one downvoting you. I also think what’s happening is abhorrent.

                Since you’re in a blue state, it’s not nearly as big of a deal. However, for anyone reading this in battleground states, remember that the only alternative who actually has any shot of winning in FPTP electoral college is Trump who thinks Israel should “finish the job”.

                I’m pretty sure you know why you’re being downvoted. If we want more real options we need to start working towards any system that isn’t FPTP electoral college bullshit.

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                  I’m being downvoted because of libtard blue no matter who neoliberal folks who only watch cable news.

                  Yes, I know exactly why, and it’s very sad that they can support genocide so flippantly

                  And if this hurts your feelings get over it I guess there’s a fucking genocide going on and you’re in support of it

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          my own little conspiracy theory i like to think about is that biden threw that debate on purpose lol.

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          It’d be interesting to find this out, but given how disorganized the Democrats tend to be, I seriously doubt that’s the case.

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    It’s all in the clock

    80 days until election day

    70 days until early voting starts in Michigan

    66 days until early voting starts in Wisconsin

    61 days until early voting starts in North Carolina

    45 days until the vice-presidential debate

    30 days until early ballot drop off starts in Pennsylvania

    24 days until the first presidential debate

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    Just to remind everyone in 2016 people had pretty much already planned their Clinton victory parties and everyone “knew” that Trump was going to lose, the polling was so clear and Trump was such a joke. Perhaps some even took care of “more important” stuff than voting because it was so sure.

    So keep your excitement to take you to the voting booths rather than letting it make you complacent.

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      And make sure you tell everyone else to get out and vote.

      Offer carpools to take people to vote if you can. We need numbers at the booths. Especially if you’re in a swing state or red.

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      The polls only look good because they’re so much better than they were for Biden. It’s still a toss-up, because those percentages are within the margin of error of the polls. (At least, for most of the swing states.)

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      Thanks for saying this. It’s Mid-August. There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails. Rather than celebrating polls in mid-August, let’s take this happy energy and make plans to go to the only poll that matters – the actual election – and make these mid-August hopes turn into January certainty. Plan the celebrations after we win in November, to coincide with Harris taking the Oath in January.

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        There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails.

        It’s astonishing how long the US election cycle is. There’s longer until the next US election than the entire campaign here in the UK, yet it’s all I’ve heard about for the past three years.

        Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

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          Media companies and political consultants have a vested interest in making this take as long as possible.

        • @[email protected]
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          Obviously not. If people would chill out it would have to be about judging and responding to actual policy decision, instead of watching GoT political drama.

          The longer the election cycle, the more politics are a show and bad policy can be justified with “election tactics”.

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          Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

          I used to go years between worrying about politics before Trump was president. I’m hoping those days can return somehow.

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              “Make Politics Boring Again” Republicans have by-and-large politicized a HUGE number of things that should simply be left up to the scientific community. We shouldn’t NEED to have hearings on whether the planet is warming. The debate should be on minutia that aims to bring equity to all humanity, and frankly that’s pretty boring.

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            Yes, this. During his “presidency”, I got so sick of dreading the morning’s news. When I’d see someone else and they’d say “did you see/hear what he did now?”, you didn’t even have to ask who “he” was; you knew.

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              It was exhausting and the country barely survived it. I have no idea what’s in store for any of us if they put his ass back there again.

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      Yeah, don’t be so sure of winning that you get too lazy to fricking vote. And also watch out because I’m sure there will be some dirty tricks around polling stations as certain Republican areas get desperate

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      Yea while Kamala is ahead in the polls , a frighteningly large amount of people still support 45

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        Even then, the error % on polls is high enough that Trump could be ahead instead.

        Polls post their calculated error %. If they could be off by like 5% in either direction, then that’s what they say. And if the poll shows Trump losing by 2%, with a 5% error, that means Trump could win by 3%.

        Every single reputable poll that has been published shows a Trump victory within the margin of error.

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            No, they just don’t have to poll massive groups, surprisingly small groups work well enough for polling.

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              Well they didn’t prove shit when they said Hillary was gonna win. Just gonna say I’m not ever gonna trust one.

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                Almost every poll had him winning within the margin of error, 2016 was never certain, just like this election isn’t.

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                Polls are all about probability. They can’t predict the future. So, even though Hillary was likely to win, there was still a chance that Trump could win. Does this mean that polls are useless? No, because knowing the popularity of your candidate relative to the other candidates is important information.

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                  I doubt too many polls could have predicted the Comey/GOP/FBI election interference, for example.

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      The mainstream media just doesn’t reflect/represent the majority of Americans anymore and hasn’t for quite some time, actually.

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        This would suggest that the polls indicated that Hilary was more popular despite Trump going on to win the popular vote. This did not happen. The majority of Americans dislike Trump and he lost the popular vote and never had an approval rating over 50%.

        However, there’s a lot of reporting on polls that operate like the popular vote, despite the popular vote not really mattering.

        The actual assessment is that the electoral college just doesn’t reflect/represent the majority of Americans, and it never really did.

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      Unfortunately I don’t see Kamala winning just yet, nothing is certain, there’s a lot of Trump supporters in the wood work, and the establishment liberal media play a game of “maybe if we pretend they’re losing, they’ll lose”.

      …which is wishful thinking that destroys people’s grip on reality, and causes a lot of voters to not bother to show up.

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          Are you kidding? The “establishment” (mainstream) media is extremely left. They don’t like trump and do all they can to hurt his campaign.

          Where do you live?

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            Where is this so called extremely left media and what are they doing to hurt low t’s campaign?

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              … NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX (fox has fallen into this group recently), etc. It’s crazy that more folks don’t realize this. 90% of MSM is pro liberal agenda.

              Liberals know mostly know this, but they don’t care because they are on their side. MSM bias for the left isn’t even argued. It’s common knowledge (at least it should be).

              Many many local news stations are also run by this media conglomerate, and that’s why you will see all these news stations reading from the same script. They have a collective agenda. Well, actually, it’s not THEIR agenda, it’s the agenda of a VERY small group fed to these stations to repeat.

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                Lmfao including all of those in the same sentence is good times

                And then calling them all liberal! Lmfao! And then calling liberal, left! LMFAO!

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              Ok, maybe it’s more correct to say ‘totally’ left or ‘completely’ left, but that’s what it is. That’s why it’s called the “liberal media.”

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                The term “liberal media” is only used by those within the corporate media itself, right wing kool-aid drinkers, or with scare quotes around it by the actual left.

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                  The term “liberal media” is a correct term because 90% of major news outlets (and media in general) lean left. This is accepted by everyone who has eyes to see.

                  This is a good place for you to be. It’s easy to do little research and find that MSM leans left, like 95% of major news outlets do. The bias for things that are left of center in media isn’t even argued by left, or right, or anyone. The only people who don’t realize this are those who have “drank the kool-aid”. Please, just do a couple of google searches. These major news outlets don’t even really hide it. Google “the liberal media” or “major news outlets bias”. Something like that.

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          I think it’s pretty obvious that if that guy gets elected, it’s going to be a shitstorm, and that isn’t good for the establishment.

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      and there’s plenty of time for the propaganda machine to find a server, laptop or some other bullshit to give people an excuse to not vote for her.

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        Honestly, I think this is one of the many reasons the hard right hate mail-in voting. There is less time for them pull off their typical rat-fucking dirty tricks if people already mailed in their votes.

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      We’re draining his power, and we cannot stop. There can be no question that this referendum on him and the culture he fosters is wrong and cannot/ will not be tolerated any longer.

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    For anything Trump says; what did you expect? Something better?

    Well, we should.

    And here she is.

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      I love this storyline but I am reserved about the narrative from New Republic. A lot of their reporting comes off tabloid-ish.

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      That’s because there’s only really one reasonable side. What, do you WANT to see antivax misinfo in here?

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        Now, that’s not fair. Conservatives offer more than just antivax misinfo.

        They also have misogyny, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, anti-education, climate denialism, billionaire worship, war-mongering, domestic terrorism cheerleading and so much more!

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      If you want to see more pro-trump articles posted here then be the change you wish to see in the world: post them yourself.

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      It is?

      Democrats should not be supporting genocide. Netanyahu should not be able to buy candidates.

      Now watch what happens.

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        You say that as if Trump, as the Republican nominee, would do anything better with Israel

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          Not only is it possible to be upset about genocide (you should try it sometime), it’s also possible to be upset about genocide without being a Trump supporter.

          Thank you for proving the point I was making.

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            Absolutely, 100%… but you didn’t bring that up in this specific post and context because it was a standalone point. You were already bringing the us vs them narrative and now are playing the pearl clutching.

            My only mistake was feeding the troll here

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      You can’t be sane and support Trump. You just can’t. There’s no debate here. He’s a lunatic and people who support him are lunatics.

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    Trump: “she doesn’t like Jewish people. You know it, I know it, and everybody knows it, and nobody wants to say it.”

    Yeah, probably because she loves them, and everyone else as well.

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        And Trump’s wife, mother, and grandfather are and were immigrants, but it doesn’t stop him from hating immigrants. That type of inconsistency isn’t an issue for him, so I imagine calling Harris an antisemite is perfectly reasonable to him.

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          Great point. Same with openly gay Peter Thiel who hand picked weirdo JD Vance, completely behind Project 2025, which is staunchly anti-gay.

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            Thiel knows that money and power trump the law (pun intended, I guess) so anti-gay legislation won’t affect him or his circle.

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        I think Trump is accustomed to thinking his spouses are lesser beings that exist only to bolster his image and serve at his pleasure, and he probably harbors deep feelings of disdain for all of them that he can’t express publicly.

        So for him it totally tracks to be married to a type of person that you hate.

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          he probably harbors deep feelings of disdain for all of them

          It’s not even a question. He literally buried his ex-wife on his fucking golf course without a headstone and then let the site become overgrown.

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          This isn’t a bad thought but it implies that he remembers she is married to a Jewish person. He definitely doesn’t. He can’t even pronounce her name or pick a wrong pronunciation to go with.

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      Hey Donnie, you remember those “fine people on both sides” in Charlottesville? What were they chanting exactly?

      Fucking asshole