• FlashMobOfOne
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    9 months ago

    Headlines like this are a good reminder of my prime directive: Don’t donate money to political parties. Both Harris and Trump have billionaires in their corner and they don’t need your money.

    Instead, donate to your friends’ mutual aid requests or invest it in your own stocks and investments. These candidates aren’t going to do anything meaningful to change your station in life, but they will make a trillion dollars appear out of thin air overnight to avoid a major drop in the stock market and your $10-$20 could mean the difference between skipping a day of food and eating for someone you know and love.

    • @[email protected]
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      199 months ago

      they will make a trillion dollars appear out of thin air overnight

      that’s the federal reserve, which does what it wants and doesn’t answer to anyone, including the president

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        The fed chairman is nominated by the president… But more importantly the fed and the president almost never disagree, even under different presidents. That’s because every president is first and foremost a servant of capital.

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          19 months ago

          I haven’t seen anything to suggest that the fed “chairman” is anything more than a public talking head to give the impression that the government has something to do with what the fed does.

          it doesn’t matter whether potus, or anyone agrees with them

  • Obinice
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    …in the USA.

    A key piece of information missing from the title, which made it a waste of my time.

    I don’t live in that country, and while I feel very much for the plight of any foreign education system in distress, I must focus my energy on things upon which I can affect positive change.

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        09 months ago

        *in the greatest parts of europe, aka the balkans (how is the slovenian school system still decent?)

      • rowdy
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        89 months ago

        Ah yes Europe, my favorite singularly governed country.

        • Aisteru
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          39 months ago

          By that, I meant “It’s probably also true in European countries”. You must be fun at parties.

          • rowdy
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            29 months ago

            I am, thanks! I’m willing to bet this is happening in Asia too. Probably not Antarctica though.

      • Amanda
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        Teachers are fairly decently paid where I live but the job is shit so nobody wants it. They don’t employ enough teachers so everyone is being worked to death, and they keep adding new admin tasks, reporting tools, standardised tests, etc that makes everything worse. Also they keep doing stupid reorganisations all the time.

        • Aisteru
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          29 months ago

          I agree that it’s not one of the worst paid jobs overall, but if you apply the logic of the headline, I’m pretty sure no teacher in Europe can buy a house with their income

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            19 months ago

            Its one of the worst paying jobs that requires specific training and schooling to get into. How could they possibly pay for that plus the COL?

  • @[email protected]
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    269 months ago

    In America, we have collectively decided that we prefer our teachers to be poor and starving, that way our kids stay stupid and can be good little wage slaves.

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    The wild thing is that it gets even worse at the college level. Adjuncts get like $25k per year. It’s not much better for temporary faculty, etc. It’s a steep pyramid with admins and football coaches far away at the top.

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      9 months ago

      I taught research methodology in oncology for 15.81$ in Arizona; work as a cowboy for 20/hour. It’s really bad here in AZ.

    • @[email protected]
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      49 months ago

      My side gig is teaching at a major university as part of a third-party contract with outside businesses. I’m still university faculty, so have to do all the HR training, maintain my credentials, etc, but my pay is a little different…

      The university literally doesn’t pay us for the classes. The syltudents have to pay a $215 “lab fee” directly to us that’s split between me and the business. So I get paid $107.50 person student per semester while the University gets paid about $3,000. Our business provides the staff, facilities, course materials, and even the liability insurance, so the university’s only real expenses are having the course listed and taking the tuition money.

      My official title at the University is “Lecturer : Unpaid”

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    I am somewhat shocked that teachers could start affording houses if you doubled their pay. Maybe like a house in a shitty neighborhood in conjunction with a partner… maybe. I don’t really know but if I had to guess I would say it’s like $40k income for teachers and $150k family income to afford a house.

    • Irremarkable
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      This varies heavily state to state and even district to district, but generally after you’ve been teaching for a while, you’ll be making ok money. The issue is how low starting pay is and how long it takes to get to that point, often 10+ years. 10+ years where you’re scraping to get by and don’t really have the ability to set any money aside.

      • mozz
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        29 months ago

        Yeah makes sense. Good thing that this critical role for our society is done by people who basically have to live in their cars for a few years. No way that could go wrong.

  • Makhno
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    Every teacher I know makes almost twice what I do and gets the whole summer off. Stop with this bullshit coverage. The rest of us need a raise before teachers do. Why the fuck are they the hill we die on? There’s more of us suffering than them…

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      89 months ago

      Weird every teacher I know makes dog shit money and the school district still expects them to cover classroom supply shortages out of their own pocket.

      Also rising waters lifts all boats. Arguing that some other group shouldn’t see life improvements just means someone worse than you is making the same dumb argument against you while the wealthy are happy to pit you against each other and keep your money.

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      18 months ago

      This is such a trash tier comment and I’m not surprised you just made it and failed to respond to anyone calling you out. Gonna take a wild guess and say you’ve got some deep seated hatred for women and it comes out in weirdo ways like this.

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      9 months ago

      Your comment and post history sports why teacher pay needs to increase, which is to enable better educational and job and opportunities to young people in the United States.

  • @[email protected]
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    39 months ago

    US Teachers should have optional free on-campus housing. Single dorms & free high quality cafeteria food.

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      89 months ago

      The general problem with housing as a job benefit is that it makes you even more dependent on that particular job. It’s the same problem as with employer-provided health care.

  • @[email protected]
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    299 months ago

    Unpopular opinion, teachers should make top dollar. A teaching position should easily be in the six figures. It should attract and demand the best people in their fields.

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      49 months ago

      I agree with you, but The teacher pay depends on the state you live and your experience. I know this will blow your mind, but blue state tend to pay their teachers better than red states. Shocking, right?

      The average teacher pay in California is 95k. If you live in a small town in California, you’re probably fairly well off. But if you live in la, you’re probably broke.

      he teacher salary in Florida is about 53k. Nobody is doing great on 53 k.

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      109 months ago

      AS long as they’re held accountable for actually teaching at that payrate, I’m all for it. I had too many teachers that did the bare minimum to make sure we could pass the standardized test and that was it. I hated science in high school because of it and can’t get enough of it now that I can learn it from people that give a shit.

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        As long as they’re held accountable for actually teaching

        the bare minimum to make sure we could pass the standardized test

        It’s possible these two attitudes are related somehow.

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          Maybe, but some classes that could have been a slog were enjoyable because of those teachers at least trying to NOT make it purely memorization. For example, my biology(?) teacher assigned us 2 hours worth of copying down words and their definition every night. She ended up getting injured or sick and got replaced by a substitute and he had us make a model of a cell out of food and/or candy for homework. Same class, same semester, guess which one I can actually remember now because it wasn’t insufferably monotonous.

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        19 months ago

        Working in a school district currently, that is pushing AI in a massive way. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

        There is a major push here for teachers to use it as much as possible. While I get it to a certain degree… I’m also not sure how I feel about it. Just seems like a more convent way for teachers to do less, and be less “involved”.

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    199 months ago

    We would have to first value education, and that counts for parents and home life as well.

    Instead, we’re at war with education trying to water it down as much as possible if not outright eliminate it.

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      We do value education. Look at how much people are willing to pay for private school when they can afford it.

      We just don’t value education of other people’s children. That wouldn’t be a good competitive advantage for our own spawn.

      Or so many people think. I personally love the idea of education for everyone as it means fewer people resorting to crime with no other option. But an educated populace is a threat to many powerful institutions, so they convince their sheep to vote against it.

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        We’re paying like 15k/yr per student. More in lots of places. We’re paying shitloads to educate other people’s children.

      • Queen HawlSera
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        149 months ago

        I have no kids, but I want strong education…

        Because I don’t want to live in a society where everyone’s fucking stupid

  • Zier
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    Public school teachers need to be paid properly. We need to move huge chunks of funding from the National Defense to Public Schools. Not private schools, for profit schools or ‘school vouchers’ but public secular schools. We don’t need that much military to defend a nation of uneducated idiots, we need smart Americans.

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      punish them for trying. we live in a culture of violence, anything less than staggering exemplary violence is inadequate.

      people have already died over this, I just want some of them to be guilty.

      • @[email protected]
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        129 months ago

        The majority of landlords are “mom and pop” or the majority of units are owned by “mom and pop”? That’s an important difference.

        Example: 5 corporations own 95% of units but 5% of units are owned by 500 different “mom and pops”. This would result in the majority of landlords being “mom and pop” but the majority of units and the largest share of control over pricing would still lie with corporate owners.

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        49 months ago

        It’s a slim majority, and a $300billion/year industry. It would certainly have a normalizing effect.

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        Those mom and pop owners need to stop hoarding housing so that millennials and zoomers can finally get out of their apartments and rentals

  • @[email protected]
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    Hey Americans.

    Shouldn’t exactly teacher be capable of sustaining the American lifestyle? Since they are prompting (read advertising /s) the values to the pupils, your children on an level matching doctrine?

    Just for a reference. Full-time teachers with an academic degree earn the same amout of an IT-ler in Germany. Though our education system is one of the worst in Europe. So you should elect another idol from europe tbqh.

    I know that Lemmy will blindly support this claim. My point is why did I never heard such obvious claim in the Internet yet? If you are about to reply: Go influence your politics please. We are directly influenced by your decisions.

    Anyhow, I am not capable of replying to replies and assume others chime in.

    Much love, A European Citizien.

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      sustaining the American lifestyle

      TBH the “american lifestyle” is completely unsustainable and literally destroying the planet. We would be utterly doomed if the entire planet lived like the usa.

      But I’m definitely not blaming teachers or any other working people very much. It’s quite clear who’s actually profiting (cars/oil, military, billionaires, etc.).