• dream_weasel
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    4210 months ago

    How this was in the Olympics and karate isnt is hard to understand.

      • I Cast Fist
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        2010 months ago

        Knowing olympics, it’ll be yet another sport where it’s all men on men / women on women, separated by weight class.

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      810 months ago

      This is not representative of the rest of the event. The athleticism the real competitors were doing was incredible. It’s closer to an improvised, artistic version of a gymnastics floor routine than this bullshit.

    • @[email protected]
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      2410 months ago

      Karate isn’t in the Olympics because they can’t agree on rules and by extension have one rule making body.

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        10 months ago

        TBH I would take any Karate ruleset over the current Taekwondo one. Just pick at random!

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      This person undeservingly getting a spot on stage is not representative of the sport. But surely you wouldn’t be commenting on the validity of a sport after seeing only one person do it because then you would be susceptible to being wildly misinformed

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        410 months ago

        I wouldn’t. Like many other sports, bboying (which I use because it a dumb AF moniker) is totally subjective for scoring, and as someone who has done a LOT of karate, gymnastics, and ballroom dance, it seems like all of those should have been included first.

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            210 months ago

            First because they are older sports. Maybe that is the problem though because karate and ballroom both have 2+ established, competing governing bodies.

            Second because at least for sparring, karate is formulaic: put fist or foot here, score point.

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          410 months ago

          It’s not totally subjective, because they define a way to measure an athletes performance objectively. It’s also a bit ironic because gymnastics could also be quite subjective too. Ultimately the judges and the athletes are aware of how everything is being scored, and the athletes plan their routines around how highly they can score on this rubric.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly, she won the only real thing that matters: actual attention and fame. I couldn’t tell you who won the medals. But I’ll definitely remember her performance for years. She’s now famous, whether she wants to or not. I’d lean into that if I was her.

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    1510 months ago

    I looked for this video for over a week. For something so widely discussed it’s crazy nobody could actually see it.

  • @[email protected]
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    610 months ago

    You can find these videos all over the fkn internet what do you mean you can’t find it?lmao

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    10 months ago

    I’m so tired of hearing about this…

    The thing is, at least she gave it a shot even if it was stupid and she sucks at it. She’ll be the most popular person at the pub.I actually wish I had that opportunity even if the Internet laughed at me honestly

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      1310 months ago

      I think the fact that she supposedly has a PhD in Breakdancing is the thing that is making this a story

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          1910 months ago

          Her PhD is in investigating the cultural/social context and implications of women in breakdancing. It’s not PhD in performing breakdancing.

        • @[email protected]
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          710 months ago

          It’s genuinely not. Her PhD is in the cultural politics of breakdancing. That’s exactly what the other person said but less concise.

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            210 months ago

            And I could have a PhD in Cinema but it doesn’t mean I’ll be a good director. That’s not the point of the degree.

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      2110 months ago

      I guess the story is that she’s actually really talented, but she decided she wasn’t up to the level of the competition so she opted for a less technical, more expressive routine.

      Or at least that’s what my research turned up after watching that.

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        10 months ago

        I’m not buying that. Her moves were slow and awkward, not “less technical.” She had zero relationship with the music. She spent most of her time flopping like a fish. Slowly. I feel like she got lost while looking for the interpretive dance competition.

        Wanna spread misinform real fast? Tell people she was a meme candidate chosen for her legendary super bowl performance as left shark. That’s more believable than “she can actually breakdance.”

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    4210 months ago

    Imho someone should have warned her…

    I think she is someone who has been lied to. Like a girl who had never been told she cannot sing, and when she finally hits the talentshow, Simon Cowell has to break it to her. He’s a dick, but he’s not wrong.

    And now a real, good breakdancer is missing out on this chance. We’re talking about the Olympics for crying out loud. Not some tournament with all sorts of people joining. She does not have the skill to compete with the breakdancing going on, clearly, compared to others in this competition.

    If she doesn’t like the hate, then don’t seek this spotlight. It’s great to have a passion, yay you! It’s not okay to force the world to enjoy your passion. It’s that type of entitlement that gets people to support someone who clearly doesn’t have what it takes to join the Olympics.

    For real, as I’m writing this I don’t get why people accept this. It’s not fair to people ACTUALLY being good at this.

    End of rant. Cannot wait to see people get mad at me for not accepting her on that stage.

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      3310 months ago

      She was warned, and acknowledged it in an interview before the Olympics. But, she could go to the Olympics. Honestly, it’s kind of weirdly brave to knowingly go and embarrass yourself in front of a global audience. And it’s mostly harmless.

      I mean it’s a mortal wound to breakdancing, Australia as a country, and the Olympics as an institution, all of which must necessarily be taken less seriously now. But other than that. 🤣

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        10 months ago

        It’s weirdly an asshole move more like.

        The olympics are not accessible to everyone, that’s the whole point. It’s the best in the world at everything, not cool runnings B-reel. I don’t understand why we have to have a war on prestige: some people are working hard to be good at things and they don’t need to share the stage with the everyman. This was walking into a fancy dinner that you KNOW is exclusive wearing jeans and a beater and spitting on the floor when they call your name. Fuck, have the self-awarenees to say “I am not an Olympic athlete” and leave it at that.

        Which is all to say your second paragraph is exactly on point lol.

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          All joking aside, the Oceania board that made the decision, which she was not part of (there’s not a single Australian on it) said she earned her spot through the competition and based on the judges recommendation.

          The fact is, Australia doesn’t have a big breaking scene, which is a statement from people in the community themselves. They had to bring people out of retirement just to have enough numbers. So, I guess if your country calls on you and says you’re one of the best we have, you either do it or you don’t.

          In that sense, it is kind of like cool runnings. A country with an incredibly small pool of talent for a niche (and brand new) Olympic event didn’t have the time to manifest talent for these Olympic games and didn’t have enough already existent talent that met the qualifications imposed by the IOC and Oceania board. Honestly, it kind of is what it is.

          It happens in other Olympic events too, it just doesn’t usually get this much publicity (and isn’t usually quite this silly; I just watched the kangaroo thing 🤣).

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            I had some time to chill out and I agree with you, by and large, but here’s what gets me:

            You can totally differentiate between someone who has excelled at a physical sport. It is apparent in posture, economy of motion, and honestly even pure physique. I did 10 years of competitive ballroom dance at least 10 years ago now, and I guarantee even I could have made a better show. That is not indended to be a humble brag: im pushing 40 and kids tore up my physical prowess lol. I CAN stand up and full space though, and move with my whole body in an intentional way. The selection pool, even if there is not a breaker scene, could have been widened to include people who wouldn’t look ridiculous even with exactly the same routine. It’s just totally wild lol.

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        510 months ago

        It’s probably the only time Breaking will be at the Olympics (already pulled from LA), and instead of the story being about the downright incredible athleticism and art being shown by the other competitors, people are remembering this.

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          LA passed on breaking before this whole thing, but Brisbane’s got it in 2032 and they have the option to include it. It mostly sucks because this one bad performance overshadowed the 32 other competitors who put on great performances.

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        610 months ago

        But embarrassing oneself is one thing, taking away chances from people that actually try really hard… Kinda mean

        Whatever I’ve spent enough time on her now. Time to live life again.

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      1010 months ago

      We’re talking about the Olympics for crying out loud. Not some tournament with all sorts of people joining

      Ironic.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_sports#Olympics

      Through most of the 20th century the Olympics allowed only amateur athletes to participate and this amateur code was strictly enforced - Jim Thorpe was stripped of track and field medals for having taken expense money for playing baseball in 1912.

  • @[email protected]
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    810 months ago

    This really goes to show how little provocation internet weirdos need to hate on a woman.

    • @[email protected]
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      1310 months ago

      Why are you making it about gender? She has the dance moves of a kid in the grocery store cereal aisle.

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        210 months ago

        You know fine rightly people wouldn’t be making a big deal of this or ignoring the reasons behind this if it was a man.

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        810 months ago

        If it was a dude it would be like William Hung, everyone would still laugh at him but would also be kinda rooting for him. People are right to laugh at Raygun, but the conspiracies about her getting ahead because of her husband have a sexist vibe to them.

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    1910 months ago

    The only thing I enjoyed about this sport was everybody skipping to the stage like they’re one of the Railway Children on their way to collect a hamper from rich, land-owning Uncle Bertie.

    They should have had parkour instead.