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Ok let’s also assume he was intoxicated. Even then why the fuck would you tase him? Should’ve waited for the medical personnel. Then man was in his own goddamned house. WTF!
Cops in a town arrested a woman for drinking at home because she was rude to them when they asked her about a unrelated hit and run that happened in front of her home.
She was watching a baseball game minding her own business and they left, then came back and arrested her.
Even then why the fuck would you tase him?
IIRC the thought the seizure induced thrashing was him resisting arrest. Of course that begs the question, why were they trying to arrest someone having a seizure (that they’d been sent to help BTW) in the first place?
IN THEIR OWN HOUSE!
Probably for committing one of the highest crimes of the land - disrespecting a police officer by not following their orders. They don’t care if he was seizing, unconscious, whatever. They will shoot to kill for such an infraction.
Which order to follow…
Jesus fucking christ
Oh! I actually know the answer to this one!
Cuz the perpetrator was experiencing excited delirium which, to the untrained eye (and the trained eye and the doctor’s eye and any eye that doesn’t belong to a police officer), can LOOK like a seizure. According to numerous completely un-ridiculous lawsuits, the lawyers and doctors paid
offby Axon have determined that repeatedly applying the electric shocks of a taser actually CURE excited delirium!So, the fact that this man survived PROVES that the
assaultingresponding officer actually saved his life from an episode of excited delirium! Had the man died, it would have meant that the officer did everything within hisincompetencepower to rescue the man, but he simply succumbed to the grip of excited delirium. Also, had the man weighed the same as a duck, they would have had to burn him.THIS OFFICER IS A
MORONHERO!!!In case I was too subtle:
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maybe when they heard that he was going through a seizure, they assumed he was orchestrating a drugs bust.
He was seizing right at them and they were afraid for their lives, they really had no other choice! Also, he didn’t stop when they told him to, which is an egregious crime in the US it seems - when a cop tells you to do something you do it, or risk getting tazed and/or shot, even if the order is to turn green, fly, crawl with your arms in the air or stop having a grand mal seizure…
So this article mentions absolutely nothing about this man being a “financier”, but it does mention that the woman is his FIANCÉ. Did this tweet seriously mix those two words up? And then OP read the story, read this tweet, and still went ahead and screenshotted it?
financeer!
Huh, “light and moist,” the block-like shape makes it look like you could beat a rhino with it.
Just A Fucking CAB.
Its like they arrive at the scene without any information at all.
They arrived their first, medical assistance still on the way. They should be to busy coordinating to make sure those can do their job efficiently when they arrive. Maybe performing first aid. They shouldn’t be looking for crimes even if they are present.
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Theres just no reason for a cop to show up when 911 is called for a medical emergency.
Yep, basically the whole argument to the “defund the police” movement. Take some of that fucking cop money to hire social workers. Better for society, but the fascists don’t like things that are good for society.
Local jails are just holding facilities for the mentally ill. We need free and easy access to mental healthcare. We need to educate people on when and how to get it. We need early childhood interventions and we need to educate parents so that they aren’t afraid of the stigma of mental illnesses. We need to train regular doctors on how to recognize different illnesses and how to guide patients instead of prescribing anti-depresents for everything or saying someone is too young to have a mental illness.
I think most people would agree with that. Like so many issues though, the will of the people just doesn’t seem to have an impact.
I don’t think people are aware of the extent of the issue. Even the police, courts, jail guards, and even the people in jail aren’t really aware of the underlying problems. People who take illegal drugs are often self medicating. They do things like steal to pay for them. People with violent tendencies often have underlying conditions. People with mental illness often have difficulty with education and obtaining good jobs and lack economic opportunities.
Is there a way to call for an ambulance without 911? Like to ensure one ONLY gets EMS. I know you can call the local police station without 911, you should be able to get medical help without meeting armed sociopaths.
Thats what I really don’t get. In other countries if you call an ambulance, police has nothing to do with it.
In my country (Germany) the central emergency hotline 112, the equivalent to 911, isn’t even run by police. Fire departments are coordinating emergencies.
Ours aren’t run by police either anymore. It’s a company with regional phone centers that alerts local police/ambulance/fire.
Even without information, if your first reaction to the unknown is overwhelming violence, you belong in a mental institution
Make sure to beg dispatchers not to send the cops apparently.
Why the fuck were the cops even dispatched? Any dispatcher should know that cops are fucking morons. And should not be send to a medical emergency. If an ambulance is not available you send firefighters. This is almost criminal negligence on the dispatcher’s part.
In a lot of places the police show up to any EMT/Fire response they can, as a safety thing. So it is likely the police got there before the EMTs could. So, that sucks.
poor country they live in. seems that country needs external help to develop a minimum bit of civilisation. 🤷♀️
I’ve had a seizure in public before, fortunately around my friends. No cops, just a couple of EMT’s. I guess Portland has its priorities a little more in order? They are short staffed.
Even in a perfect world, where cops actually protect and serve the people, if you’re going to send cops to a medical emergency they should only be there as a helping hand to paramedics. If the paramedic tells the cops to fuck off, they should comply. Cops aren’t medics, they’re not trained to properly handle really any medical emergency any more than the average person who’s watched greys anatomy. They have no business being there and if they are they should be the bitch boy to the actual trained professional.
Oh, good. Another police fuckup that the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for.
(I’m assuming US) freedom isn’t free! /s
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My father has grand Mal seizures, these cops did not think that man was intoxicated. Anyone who’s seen someone have a grand Mal would immediately know something was up with their brain
The first time my dad ever had one I was awoken at 1am to my mom screeching and my dad spasming on his bed spewing blood from his mouth (bit his tongue) and even I knew immediately it was a fucking seizure (I was 15 at the time and entirely untrained), these cops wanted to hurt someone
A psychosis on heavy drugs can look like you’re being possessed by a demon. I’m not saying their actions are in any way justified, but there is some room for them to simply be ignorant towards the common people because of their prejudice. (Which in my opinion should be punished equally as hard.)
I am reading, rolled my eyes in pure disbelief and sighed out a heavy air. This kind of thing is something that third world cops would not even do. Plenty of comparison to be made with American cops and cops from poorer countries: corrupt, power-tripping, abusive, and have little to no standards of training. But this level of bullshit is something American cops would only do.
Although on the one hand, had the man been a black person, he probably would have already been shot straight away instead of being tased. American cops are just pure comical clowns and it is tragic.
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Tell me race was a factor without telling me race was a factor.
“Mal” is Latin for “bad” sounds like the cops are educated about who the bad guys are.
I once saw two cops have a shootout with a mall because they stopped reading after the first L and I THANKED them for their SERVICE.
I have a patient who had a seizure and 911 was called. He tends to get agitated, so his wife warned the cops that came to leave him alone to come out of it as sometimes he starts flailing his arms. Well he flailed his arms and the cops decided to handle that by punching him in the head a few times. Cops need seizure training very very badly.
US Police officers need training very badly, period.
Also, don’t call them cops anymore. They don’t need a “cool” designation, they’re people with a job, ans that job is to protect and serve us, not being some cool dude that we need to fear
US Police officers need training very badly, period.
God, isn’t that the truth. Standardized training, and training that doesn’t invite quacks to give lectures on how you need a WARRIOR MENTALITY and killing people will give you the best sex of your life.
Police officer sounds authoritative. Cop is usually used in a derogatory manner. Gonna stick with cop.
Police officer is what they should be.
Cop, whatever it was before, is -to them- this cool ahrrif guy who will show the town who is boss.
You’re not that, you are. Apomoce officer who should be trained and sworn to uphold the law firstly to yourself, to serve and protect.
Can do.
They don’t need more training. They need consequences
I mean, average training for a U.S based police person is 3 months, compared to a civilized country where it’s considerably longer. They need both.
They do need more training as they barely get any.
They also need consequences, yes
Cop = Citizen On Patrol. It’s derogatory, as it correctly implies they aren’t officers, and they absolutely hated being called cops as recently as the early '90s.
Cop is short for copper, which was a reference to the big brass buttons they used to have on their uniforms.
Could be both. Could be neither. I’m just a random person on the internet.
Cops need de escalation training badly. They treat every call as a crime.
I read an article like this years ago, I’d fine the link if search didn’t suck everywhere.
A guy had a heart attack and his wife called emergency services. Police were the first to arrive and did what police do.
This guy was in his underwear leaning against the wall and because he didn’t respond immediately to the police shouting at him they threw him to the ground and broke his back.
Why were the police even there? Is it common in the US for them to also come to medical emergencies?
I think they came because the wife sounded really upset on the phone. Police do just like to turn up to things though.
Here in Australia I called emergency services one time because a woman locked her kid and her keys in her car and the police were the first to turn up. They couldn’t do anything so they just stood around until the fire brigade arrived who were the ones that could actually pick the lock to the car. It just makes you wonder why the police bothered at all.
