A Milwaukee woman has been jailed for 11 years for killing the man that prosecutors said had sex trafficked her as a teenager.
The sentence, issued on Monday, ends a six-year legal battle for Chrystul Kizer, now 24, who had argued she should be immune from prosecution.
Kizer was charged with reckless homicide for shooting Randall Volar, 34, in 2018 when she was 17. She accepted a plea deal earlier this year to avoid a life sentence.
Volar had been filming his sexual abuse of Kizer for more than a year before he was killed.
Kizer said she met Volar when she was 16, and that the man sexually assaulted her while giving her cash and gifts. She said he also made money by selling her to other men for sex.
She’ll probably have an easy time inside. She’s gonna be a Rockstar in there.
shouldn’t EVER have been an issue, even the prosecution knew she was trafficked. if it was a jury trial, fuck them.
Plea deal means it never made it in front of a jury.
yeah, even worse they convinced her to agree. I didn’t read the whole thing.
Tbh, prosecutors are just as evil as the criminals.
Yep. They made an example out of her.
A direct message to otjer victims. Don’t fight back.
It’s fucking disgusting.
I can’t find the statistic right now, but it’s something like over 2/3 of women in US prisons (and likely elsewhere) are there for killing or otherwise harming the man who was abusing, raping, and or trafficking them.
Meanwhile a large majority of abusers rapists and traffickers walk away from their crimes scot free.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
its always like “man gets upset, kills somebody, 2 years”
“woman abused for years, kills him, 10 years”
Disappointing. Gdi.
Why do sex traffickers still receive human rights? Honestly. Once convicted they should be free use tissue. If the victim didn’t wanna get revenge, they turn to medical slaves for testing. Something like that.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Traffickers are uniquely evil and should get a unique legal treatment. I feel revulsion at a lot more acts and attitudes than I used to, but I’ve never felt bad at all for a trafficker. Even if there was a movie level backstory explaining them, until down otherwise, I feel is personally completely impossible for me to feel bad about anything that’s happened to them, and I would feel absolute glee if I heard they so much as got a paper cut. No other people group do I so thoroughly enjoy every little thing that they don’t enjoy. The sadder and more upset they get, the happier I am. But it only applies to them.
As a stupid kid I would have applied that to a lot of people. All of whom I feel terrible about it now. Except this one. I still love their suffering, and I don’t see that ever stopping.
And I do understand the problems changing their status would bring up legally, but I still wish I could own a torture farm just for them. Make a Saw multiverse.
Is jail where they give her her medal of honor?
My mother was abused by her father. No one helped. Her own siblings, also abused, blamed her when she spoke out about it. She was then abused by my father. When the police came round after physical violence, they laughed at her.
I find myself not really expecting moral behaviour from humans as a group. That women must endure worse punishment for killing their abusers than their abusers would have received is unpleasant.
If a woman is the abuser does the man get to murder her?
Men do murder their female partners at a much higher rate already.
Research shows around 10% of college aged males self-report as having sexually assaulted women. This has been replicated in multiple countries: https://jimhopper.com/topics/sexual-assault-and-the-brain/repeat-rape-by-college-men/
Men, on average, serve two to six years for killing their female partners: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/jan/12/intimate-partner-violence-gender-gap-cyntoia-brown
So, yes, men get to murder women. They get to rape women. They self-report having done so as if it’s not that big a deal. They get to enjoy shorter sentences than 11 years, on average. I hope this answers your question.
I’ve just read a comment from a woman who was held captive and tortured by an ex:
"Male friends who know what happened tell me I didn’t fight back hard enough. “Just say no.” I did. “You should have left.” I tried. “You need to put up more of a fight. Don’t let these men walk all over you.” He beat me to the point I was bleeding internally and gave me permanent brain damage.
They will never get it. Nothing we can ever say will make them understand how it feels.
Compassion is not something that many humans are good at, I guess.
Every time I hear about something like this, I find myself thinking that climate change is a good thing. And then I fantasize about a head on gamma ray burst or a lovely coronal mass ejection stripping away the atmosphere.
Life was a mistake.
My fantasy is that mutually-assured destruction scenario plays out. Give us some good fireworks before our eyeballs are roasted into particles. Humans suck, and it ain’t gonna get better.
Humans aren’t so great. But they also seem to be self-limiting, so it all evens out.
As you imply, humans have an overall negative impact on the human world that they create for themselves and each other. I don’t emotionally identify as a human because of that. I just exist, and watch it all happen without blaming myself.
Doing nothing in the face of great evil is half the problem with human beings.
What was it mlk said about moderates?
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
Letter from Birmingham Jail, by Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963
But if you’re the only one doing something against that great evil you’re a nutter.
And if what you are doing to fight that evil is against the societal norm - then at best you are a nutter, at worst you are a dangerous threat.
Yes, the status quo can easily put pressure on people to not counter forces which harm humans. Meaning you end up with a human society that harms humans.
I’m just a flyby idiot on Lemmy, but I am blown away that she was charged. The one article I read didn’t go into a ton of details on th actual shooting, but she was raped and trafficked and shot her abuser. Did the DA pursue it because she is black?
She traveled from Milwaukee to Kenosha of her own volition with intent to kill, shot him twice, burned his house down, and stole a car.
Going to someone’s place uninvited with intent to kill that person is premeditated murder. Burning down a house is extremely reckless, others could’ve been easily caught up or injured in this rampage. Not to mention that the house fire likely destroyed a lot of potential evidence. Other victims might have more difficulty finding their own justice as a result, or worse if he had any accomplices their collaboration could be harder to prove.
Cool motive. Very understandable motive even. Still murder. Vigilante justice is no justice.
Do people think we have to let murderers go free because of their skin color? It sounds like 1950 again.
That’s what I was afraid of. Shooting him when she was about to be raped is different to a prosecutor than planning to kill her rapist and then making it happen.
Yes, killing someone in self defense is different from going back later with intent to kill them. That’s always been true
Im just some random dude on the internet, but if i was raped and sex trafficked I personally wouldn’t feel safe until the rapist was dead. Our legal system is fucking garbage.
…I personally wouldn’t feel safe until the rapist was dead.
If humans had a justice system which prioritised protecting people from sex traffickers and rapists, that would be great. Put them in prison for a long time.
The law doesn’t let you kill anyone who pisses you off.
Hahahahaha this fucking guy. Also not what I said, also im pretty sure rape is not equivalent to pissing someone off. Holy shit my guy what an absolutely dumb comment. Cheers 🥂
Best outcome she could have is she could get early parole, or serve some years of her sentence while the rest is suspended. There have been cases before of victims killing their captors/traffickers and received long term prison sentence, but were later paroled or their sentence had been reduced or commuted to something more lenient.
No its absolutely not. The best and only just outcome would have been acquittal via nullification by the jury.
She took a plea deal to avoid life sentence. Only hope is parole or a pardon.
This lady needs to be pardoned or it’s the origin story for a villain who has an understandable grudge against the justice system.
Sorry, America governors only pardon you when its the pedophile doing the murdering.
Here’s a related headline. Haven’t read it yet:
‘I just wanted peace’: my 35-year fight to bring my abusive father to justice
Carol Higgins was 15 when she first reported her father’s abuse to the police. They told her he wouldn’t be charged. But she refused to let it rest until he finally stood trialIf I was on the jury, I’d nullify.
And they have processes in place to make sure you wouldnt be on that jury.
Vocal knowledge of jury nullification is grounds for dismissal.
Prior intent to nullify is basically perjury. Now you are both in jail
See, the system works! /s
I assume you mean it’s “basically perjury” given the questions they’ll ask. Because they keep asking us questions like that when I have jury duty, and I keep getting dismissed.
Nonetheless, it’s still helpful to spread awareness of jury nullification. It forces the prosecution to pick the next most lenient person, and eventually so many people might know about nullification that it has to remain on the table.
I assume I can’t be on any jury, as I have moral opinions that are contrary to the status quo.
Time for some Shawshank redemption shit
This is fucking infuriating.
On the one hand the guy was a scumbag. On the other she was away from him and sought him out to end him. One of the hardest things to accept in life is that your abusers often wont ever face any consequences for what they have done to you. Often you are punished for seeking it out and when someone does something like this it just gives the powers that be incentive to make a example out of you. After all many of them are similarly guilty and fear the same fate.
On the other she was away from him and sought him out to end him.
I’d need a lot more info before I judged her for that. Had law enforcement been notified and done anything to stop him from victimizing others? If not then she did the right thing. If the “justice system” doesn’t do it’s job you can’t blame people for circumventing it.
I think anybody who is sex trafficked for a year should legally get a freebie. Anybody who is willing to abuse or sex traffic another human being should just be at peace with the possibility of being ended by their victims. Good thing I don’t make the laws, I guess?
What about people with abusive parents? Can they kill them too? Can they go to college and come back after graduation to kill their parents who they haven’t seen for years? You don’t think other people are abused too?
It’s mostly a matter of a right to a fair trial, these people deserve death but our legal systems are fragile and prone to failure. It’s important to prove guilt before condemning the damned. Even if they deserve it. Glad this guy got what was coming to him though.
Legal systems exist to make simpler, faster, cheaper, better what you’d do anyway.
So everything inside them doesn’t matter if they don’t work.
It’s like some kind of gold standard, where paper money is guaranteed with gold, while laws are guaranteed with violence. If you are willing to go to court, but are not willing to use whatever means you have, then eventually the courts will just confirm the abuse.
Anyway, about personally important things, there are many people thinking that any part of historical Armenia can be legally in a Turkic state. Imagine that. Fuck them and their idea of law.
When our justice system doesn’t work vigilantism becomes ethical
Good kill. Still murder. She is not a threat to society though…so…11years hardly-enforced house arrest might be more fitting.
eh, I’d call it some gene pool chlorination.
Wait like… Him being removed from the pool or her?
Some people are genetically flawed and should be killed? I think I heard that somewhere before…
Him, obviously.
Ok good
Fuck that, give her a medal and a therapist and send her on her way. Killing this guy was not a crime it was community service.
Biden could pardon her
False
It was just a shot in the dark, I have no idea about the laws preventing or allowing such a thing. I thought he could tie it in to boost support, but apparently it’s a non-issue
That’s ok. I do wish that for every time someone runs a political ad, someone else would run messaging about how this stuff actually works, because it isn’t really well covered.
Heh, “journalism”
Oooo, good idea.
Only if she was prosecuted for a federal crime. IANAL, and I have no idea if this was federal or state, but the president doesn’t have pardon power over the state, only the federal government.
Can the a state governor pardon her?
Yes, Tony Evers could pardon her if he chooses.
Unfortunately inside Wisconsin it would likely be career suicide with an adverse impact on the general election.
Yeah I can’t speak to that, but I believe it.
Now the only thing to do is make the best of the circumstances. Thankfully she avoided a life sentence.
- Spend your time in prison reading everything you can get your hands on, Edmond Dantes-style.
- Earn your law degree or something else essentially before you leave prison.
- Write an autobiographical book; publish.
- Profit.
