Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…
I love Mulls new browser fork of Firefox but on Gos it weakens the security due to a sandbox implementation not being as strong vs Chromium. I hate big corpo who don’t. Brave seems to be the best mobile for now. Sucks but soon as sandboxing issue is fixed. Firefox FTW!
So, how about the Cachy Browser from CachyOS? (aur)
This repository benefits from the knowledge and research provided by arkenfox, their documentation was vital to this revamp, so special thanks to their project. We do not use arkenfox’s user.js but we try to keep up with it, and we also consider it a great resource for users who want to find their own setup.
We encourage users to find their own setup and to use our default configuration as something to build on top of. This is now easier thanks to the overrides, just place your own preferences in the proper location: -> ~/.cachy/cachy.overrides.cfg
Differences from LibreWolf:
- Enhanced security & privacy.
- Gentoo patches. Taken from Gentoo’s Firefox.
- uBlock Origin added.
- Moonlight theme added.
- Preset for “Profile Sync Daemon” and Firejail/Firejail(hardened) available.
- Custom Rules for uBlock Origin.
- Custom branding.
Notes and thanks
Some of the older prefs in this project are taken from pyllyukko and many more were investigated on bugzilla.
Thanks to the whole LibreWolf community.
Definitely very interesting! Thanks for sharing. Was thinking about trying CachyOS too.
This OS is good and I’ve used it for 6months but I want to switch because it packed all of these theming inside and you cannot really remove it
Good to know - thanks. I, too, prefer to customize mine in my own way.
Yeah, and it’s sad because I didn’t find a distro that is really welled tweaked without theming (speaking of CachyOS and Garuda mainly), they are great as their using all the best optimizations in terms of performance but they add this theming…
Can’t you just not select the themes during the install process of cschyOS?
You can unselected testing etc… But cannot with all of the stuff like the fish shell, and so on. So you need to manually remove all this, and this is not good at all
For some reason I recall being able to choose that during install. I’ll fuck around with the installer later to check. But I agree I use don’t use fish either and had to figure out how to swap over to zsh. It was pretty painless though.
Yeah, so far my favourite distro for this is Bazzite, still allowed a lot of customization and is well optimised for gaming.
It’s a good distro, but seems to be too gaming focused, new techs for gaming that are not really useful
For that, check out Bluefin or Aurora. They’re all under the same umbrella as Bazzite, but with a user/developer focus instead of a gaming focus.
Yeah, the themeing is there. But you can easily uninstall it and other core CachyOS-packages, they’re just packages after all. (I’ve done it)
The other way would be to start with Arch and add CachyOS repositories, that way you can also profit from the v3/v4 packages.
That’s cool but the CachyOS repo is not the most interesting thing, the pre-optimized desktop is really nice
Well, there is no native .deb package and “There is no plan for official .deb pkg”.
Source:
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/328That makes sense as packing for a bunch of distros is a lot of work vs just using Flatpak.
Tried it a bit yesterday on Windows. Opened a Github link in it and Windows Defender killed the app saying it was a threat. Definitely a false positive but seemed odd to see the entire app just die instantly, lol.
Has anyone tried loading arkenfox user.js on there? That’s the bare minimum for me to use a Firefox-based browser. I’m not using that without hardening.
I was daily driving it but started crashing after an update. I’ll be getting back to it tho, I’m sure there has been like 4 updates in the last 24 hours…
I’ve been using it for about a week, both at work and at home, and I must say that it is great. It is nearly everything that I wanted from a browser. Especially since it is based on Firefox.
I’ve been so happy with it, that I even donated to the project.
Happy to hear!
nixpkgs has been working on adding it for a month now but it uses “surfer” for compilation. It’ll be interesting to see how they end up building it in the Nix style. Looks like it’ll have to involve pnpm.
I like it so far. The weakness seems to be the size of the dev team and if the project has a future. Hopefully they are planning accordingly.
I went through a handful of threads and it seems mostly positive so far. One choice I wasn’t sure about was that they’re considering having a built in adblocker (based on something that’s not ublock origin). I would prefer if the browser just shipped with ublock origin instead.
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browser-extensions/
As far as privacy focused browsers go,
MullMullvad Browser seems to be the best still. I was exploring Zen for my day to day browser.Appreciate the browser extensions link, thanks.
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Thanks!
Mull is Android only
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I’ll take anything to get off of Firefox. I’ll give this browser a week long trial run.
You fanboys can go to hell. Defend this if you can: https://imgur.com/a/1Tr4ttb
Try Floorp.
Also, maybe don’t compare clean chrome install to FF with a half dozen extensions installed. Extensions like Greasemonkey run literally any script you tell them to. An errant line of code and there goes your memory.
Try again, apples to apples dude.
I think it’s a fair comparison. You’re just moving the field goals, is all.
“Moving the goal posts” I fail to see how I’m changing the conditions. I’m explaining a clear and obvious issue in that image which is why it’s not a good comparison.
Okay, extensions require container processes, for each one. Each new extension add to the RAM usage. For both Firefox and Chrome.
So already the comparison is flawed because Firefox now requires more base memory to load those extensions out the gate.
But now, Firefox is clearly showing Tampermonkey in the toolbar, a userscript extension. Let’s just say I run a script that fetches competing price info from temu.com when you browse a site like amazon. Not uncommon.
Let’s say I set that to loop, so it’ll work on infinite scroll pages too.
Okay, now if you leave your browser alone for an hour and it’s refreshing these scripts, guess what happens to the memory?
Every test of current builds of FF vs Chrome has found extremely negligible performance differences when both are stock installs.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/mozilla-firefox-chrome-review-comparison-2020/
This is from 4 years ago,. Again, stock browser without a busted extension causing a memory leak, the browser runs solid.
https://cloudzy.com/blog/which-browsers-use-the-least-memory/#Firefox_vs_Chrome_RAM_Usage_Comparison
Run a real world test and you’ll see what I mean. Their RAM consumption is pretty much on par, and varies between update cycles but not wildly.
https://youtu.be/YQcslo9OqtE?si=FvI-Hk7vk46H5U67
From 3 months ago, with graphs. Firefox and Chrome have had near identical performance for years.
Awfully rude just because you don’t like something that you have full control of deciding to use or not.
Awfully rude to be this retarded.
@Frozyre please keep it a bit friendly. I understand you are mad, but there’s no point in treating other people like this.
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Tell the assholes to keep it friendly themselves. I’m talking the fanboys. They who can’t handle differing opinions have no place in open discussion on any platform. Period.
You actually started calling them to go to hell.
Open discussions are of course fine, but your tone isn’t. Since we aren’t talking about handling different opinions now, you are just insulting people. So feel free to express any feedback you might have, but there is no need for insulting and swearing.
Did you not see the score for my original comment? 43 unanswered downvotes. How can you sit there and tell me that there’s going to be an open and civil discussion that’ll come from with that? I’ve already had a few people throw the stone with their illogical commentary about what I’ve pictured with their frail attempts to defend their favorite browser.
And I got all of that, just from stating the original comment I said prior to the edit. But the ‘go to hell’ part was not the original comment.
So before more people jump down my neck about being civil, you ought to know what other people float about that go about antagonizing users or expecting negativity to come their way before they cry out to admins and mods, for something they gaslighted to!
can you spot any differences in your browser comparison?
I did but all you fucking morons are having your knee jerk reactions. It’s what I expected from dumb fucking fanboys with no lives who swear their allegiance to Firefox. Fuck you. lol
A bit more politeness goes a very long way.
Try being more civil, this will earn you way more support, especially since you want to change people’s minds.
Nope. There is no civility with fanboys.
@Frozyre Please, behave yourself. This unnecessary swearing is pointless.
This looks like it good be a great replacement for Floorp. Thanks for sharing!
Their privacy is better than regular Firefox due to disabling telemetry etc, but librewolf does way more to protect against fingerprinting. The browser itself is quite good, although it shows that it’s in early development. Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
cheers, was intrigued if this was an alternative for LibreWolf. Hope it’ll come around!
Their* privacy
Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
Doesn’t this only make sense if it is off by default on that browser? I assume if it is on by default, most people will just keep it on, thus making users of that browser that turn it off stand out more. No?
Firefox doesn’t enable it by default, so if you turn it of any chance of being perceived as just another Firefox user is gone. It may not be a measurable difference but as basically no site respects it and those that do aren’t a big problem in the first place it doesn’t matter all that much
How does this compate to Mullvad Browser?
Think mullvad is better
How does this one compare to the current OGs like Mullvad Browser and Librewolf?
Until something comes out saying otherwise, Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.
I believe Zen is better than default Firefox out of the box, but you can get the same effect in regular Firefox by toggling some options.
I liked Zen for the UI changes. It’s nice having the tabs on the side and a customizable sidebar
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Ah good to know
Optimised for peak performance? Are there benchmarks to back this up?
Edit - their docs have benchmarks. They do not appear to have comparative benchmarks
edit - lol amazing
That whole chart seems pretty hand-wavey.
I believe it’s just a build with all modern cpu features enabled. At the cost of undefined behavior when ran on older computers
