Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he isn’t buying all that Democratic “joy” on display at this past week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago during a Sunday appearance with Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union.

During their conversation, Tapper brought up the “disciplined” and “well-produced” DNC this week that, as the journalist put it, “conveyed patriotism and unity.” Graham didn’t see it that way.

“Well, I didn’t see what you saw,” Graham told Tapper with a laugh. “If you’re a Republican, you saw a hate fest. You saw a hate fest full of insults.”

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border, and inflation during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

He’s either lying or what he said gives us a look into his shitty perspective of the world. Either way such a miserable and pathetic existence.

  • @[email protected]
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    Well, he’s right in the sense of those emotions on stage being fake.

    Fake joy is a recognizable cultural trait of Americans elsewhere actually.

    And there was hate.

    Now, of course, there is joy in life, but usually not connected to political events.

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    You know, fuck Trump, fuck Graham, and fuck every Republican. But:

    Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

    Is perfectly accurate. I get that everyone is excited about Harris, but lying to ourselves about the economy makes us look out of touch, at best. Most of us can’t afford a down payment on a house. Most of us are a few missed paychecks away from homelessness. Most of us are one bad doctor’s appointment away from bankruptcy. Most of us are drowning in student loans. Republicans absolutely want to make all of those worse, but pretending everything is fine is bullshit.

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      There is so much stoic wisdom to respond to this with. Momento Mori would be the most widely known idea, Negative Visualization is similar to that, and the Last Time Meditation is a more obscure one.

      There are people who know they will die in the next week. If you can pay your mortgage, and you have good health, that is reason enough to be joyful. Those people would do anything to trade places with you and your good health and your mortgage payment.

      There are people who cannot pay their mortgage. People who got a foreclosure letter from the bank last week. Would Lindsey Graham rather us all be in a miserable situation like those pitiful people?

      Sure, paying your mortgage is not great, but you can mope about it, or you can be joyful with what you have. You will not have another today. Would you rather spend it moping about what is impossible to achieve today, or joyful about the positive things in your life right now? I know which one I would pick.

      At the same time, I know this may be hard to grasp because it took me decades to discover that joy can be a choice. It can be really hard to see that, which is why I pity Lindsey Graham.

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        210 months ago

        I definitely chose to spend my day organizing for better conditions instead of settling for scraps and being joyful that other people have it worse.

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      No-one is pretending everything is perfect, but you also have to have a positive vision for the future. Having a whole convention bitching about stuff without solutions is not the path forward.

      Democrats discussed ideas to make things better regarding the points Graham made, BUT it’s the Republicans that are the major roadblock to any and all solutions.

      Graham is the guy taking a massive shit in your living room and then complaining that the cleaning lady is too cheerful about cleaning up the room. And she’s not fast enough… And she’s to blame for making him take that dump.

      Fuck all Republican politicans, they offer ZERO solutions to anything. All they do is stoke fear and division.

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      When would anyone, ever, be joyful in those activities? Is he saying that if Republicans took over, I would be ecstatic to pay my mortgage?

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      The “joy” or whatever doesn’t have to be “Everything is great!” It can also be "Shit sucks but maybe we can get a coalition together to fix it. " Just hoping things can be better gives people joy. Like going to church and stuff

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    Face eating leopard says they have to continue eating faces because there is nothing else to eat.

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    Lindsey Graham proves that all conservatives are angry, hateful people and wants to make everyone else just like him.

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              Woah, woah, woah!…

              One of those is the natural outcome of forces set in motion—and the other killed poor innocent dinosaurs.

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              Be the thing that drives them to extinction. Way to make me explain the joke there buddy. Literal interpretation is not the only interpretation. Vote. Organize. Inform. Educate. Have compassion when those in your life change their minds.

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                  A comment likened Republicans to dinosaurs, and being eager for them to be extinct, since dinosaurs are extinct. One possibility is saying they are mostly old and waiting for them to die, another is that they have outdated ideas, even the ones not that old, and to go extinct just means they don’t have power and don’t matter.

                  Dinosaurs were made extinct by an Asteroid in the Yucatan. So to contribute to that latter half, work toward making them irrelevant, voting and chosing your media engagements appropriately.

                  At this point, I would not presume someone is advocating literal lethal violence against the entire GOP, if nothing else that is wildly infeasible and as it stands much more reasonable actions are available to minimize their influence…

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    I think this is a great example of how a conservative mind views the world.

    They are never happy or joyfull, its always a struggle and you fight for an idea despite you hating all of it. The idea that your life is not filled by misery is alien to them.

    At this point being conservative is just akin to mental illness. Destructive, depressed, delusional to themselves and others. If ever there was a real social contaigion, it would be this state of being.

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      I feel the opposite as a Democrat. I support positivity, but I won’t smile while Palestinians are being murdered. That seems pretty tone deff. I’m happy Donald Trump is going down regardless. I’m voting Kamala. Please don’t forget to protest after we win.

      I’m also worried about Armenia, Hong Kong, Myanmar, Syria, Iran, Taiwan, Tibet, Uyghurs, immegrants entering the US, UKRAINE. I am NOT smiling while people are dying and our nation is complacent.

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        I will tell you in advance: with that mindset, even if every issue you stated in the last paragraph is solved, you will still not be able to smile. People will still keep dying and suffering from injustice, just elsewhere or in different ways.

        Try to celebrate every incremental step towards justice and use that energy towards the next step and so on.

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          Then I’ll continue to not smile. I refuse to pretend to be happy while people suffer. It’s natural to feel empathy. You guys can ignore it if you need to for your mental health, but as an American with the power to change things, I will continue to protest.

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            Ever heard of “joy in suffering?”

            Generally, the more you have, the more miserable you can be. It’s important to take time to appreciate the positive things in life even while grieving for those who don’t currently get to experience them. Joy and grief aren’t mutually exclusive feelings, and you don’t need to ignore/suppress the grief to experience the joy.

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              I’m happy in my free time. I’m talking about politics and the way we show ourselves in public. I’m talking about the way we influence people.

              Johnny Cash is a good example. Of course he smiled, but he dressed in black and he died in black. I’m fine doing the same.

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              We all are! And it’s changing! Pro Palestinian support is finally a thing! We just have to keep protesting while keeping up with the election.

      • Aniki 🌱🌿
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        You’re terminally online and need to step away from the internet. Its not real.

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      I grew up in a pretty conservative household and we were literally raised that life is work and work is hell. By way of the transitive property, life = hell. It’s taken a long time through various degrees of depression and I’m still not fully grown out of it.

      But yes, the entire culture and identity is about being miserable and persevering through it, even if that means making yourself and everyone around you more miserable to justify the perseverance.

      Like the saying “nothing good comes free.” You could say the sunrise is free, but they’ll argue it’s not because you have to wake up early and waking up early is by necessity miserable so that the sunrise can be good. They’re brainwashed into thinking the only way a good thing happens is through suffering. Except the truly lost ones who only see life as suffering.

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        As an extension, if the conservative sees something free that people need, they will try to monopolize that free thing and then sell it. They call this innovation.

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        Wow… yeah I grew up this way too. But I’m not sure I ever really put it all together the way you did just now. I’m gonna have to think on this.

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        So utterly grim that it perfectly explains the entire conservative movement.

        “Life is bad. Anyone who isn’t miserable and angry like me is cheating and must be destroyed.”

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      Could also be that any time Lindsey Graham enters a room, all the people around him become miserable, so that’s why he thinks joy doesn’t exist

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    That’s why they didn’t want that student load debt pardon. Everybody must be miserable all the time.

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    I’m pretty doom and gloom but I still have joy in my life, so even if no one else does I’m proof it does exist. I would feel bad for Graham if he wasn’t such a wretched creature

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      Oh, he’s both wrong AND responsible. He’s pointing at results of policies and blaming people who set the policies that will improve the situation in the future for the results of the policies set by him and his cronies.

      He’s trying to normalize a false equivalency.

      It’s like blaming the current government for global warming and its effects, instead of just tasking them and empowering them to move the needle back in the right direction so it doesn’t get much worse than it already has.