• @[email protected]
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    10110 months ago

    Literally just a person talking in a group to other people. How is this a science meme?

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      It’s mainly funny, because all the women look bored out of their mind. It makes it look like they’re letting Greg blather on, even though none of his points are novel to them. And Greg has such a massive ego that he doesn’t notice no one is listening to him.

      Obviously, yes, Greg probably is just a person without ego talking normally. But him being the only dude in the picture and the only one talking, the mansplaining interpretation is a little too close for comfort, which makes it funny.

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        2010 months ago

        "It’s mainly funny, because all the women look bored out of their mind. "

        That’s just how people look in most academic conversations.

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          110 months ago

          I wonder why they don’t leave, why do they subject themselves to this guy’s domination?

          are they weak or something?

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        well, my whole class looked like that when we had to listen to the teacher, aint that so in the usa?

        not most of the time, but from time to time.

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          810 months ago

          The picture seems to be from Australia, I’m from Germany, so uh, no idea about the USA. 🙃

          And yes, that can be a normal situation, but if we recognize that it’s a joke, we can still see the resemblance and find that humorous.

          • @[email protected]
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            210 months ago

            yeah, it took it far to serious, let it be a joke. ;-)

            ich hab auch schon so gelangweilt an einem großen tisch gestanden, in einer gruppe von gelangweilten menschen.

      • @[email protected]
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        2310 months ago

        When I was in college, the science department was a group of people at a table going, “Hey nerd! I bet you like computers, don’t you?”

        And I did and I walked over.

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      410 months ago

      We can’t have a dude explain things to girls because girls can’t be interested in what a guy has to say. Girls good. Guys bad.

  • @[email protected]
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    5610 months ago

    Before all this online psyops I think neither men or women would have cared about this.

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        410 months ago

        Your comment is a good definition of the toxic culture that made all of this stuff controversial.

        You can’t even explain a thing anymore.

        Or did I mansplain here again? Lmao

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      This has always happened to women. I mean, men do it do men too, but other men counteract that by doing it too. As a cis man I’ve encountered way too many cringe worthy situations from my fellow men.

      If you’re never experienced mansplaining you might now actually know what it is about.

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        Oh yes. Only men mansplain. It’s in the genetics.

        Do trans men also mansplain? They’re biologically female, so they might be incapable.

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          It isn’t only men, it is just the biggest group.

          Us men are taught that our opinion is always valuable. A noble goal I am sure.

          But women still get too many “go back to the kitchen” comments whenever they give their opinion. From the more sleazy and sexist people around.

          Yes, every person has the potential to mansplain, but the group that gets attacked for it the most (even if it is not called mansplaining) tend to do it less.

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            Us men are taught that our opinion is always valuable.

            As a man I’ve been told no one wants my opinion since the 2000s so I’m not sure where you’re getting this from.

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              There’s that saying about equality in an unequal society feeling like oppression. I think it applies here. Of course I don’t know your particular life circumstances but I would bet you’re being a bit hyperbolic.

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        You went off the rail when you used “women” and “men” instead of “people”.

        I’m not exactly sure which one is more frequent, the behaviour itself or the accusation thereof as thought- and conversation-terminating cliche, but both suck donkey ass. OTOH it’s not some special grand thing in itself, either, it’s plain old failure to relate and communicate.

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          110 months ago

          Buddy, you just went off the rail when you decided that means anything other than specifically including both genders in the ‘not caring’ category.

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          1610 months ago

          Of course it sucks when both do it. But one group does it far more often. Your argument sounds like the “all lives matter” of “black lives matter”.

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            But one group does it far more often.

            With “one group” you presumably mean egocentric people in general, and nothing sexed. Because otherwise: Citation or you’re a sexist. And with “citation” I mean “controlled for perceptive biases”.

            Your argument sounds like the “all lives matter” of “black lives matter”.

            Plenty of citations for racial bias by US police so no, it really shouldn’t. Side note though: The moment the assclowns came up with “all lives matter” the BLM folks should have jumped on it and used it themselves. It’s a much more powerful message, and impossible to argue against. With the momentum they had they could easily have drowned out the racists.

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              “Mansplaining isn’t real, but quick sidenote here is how the black community should have handled their outrage if they wanted to be more effective.”

              Bruh.

              By the way, the entire point was to explicitly point out that BLACK lives matter, because they are systematically treated as if they do not, and BLM was an attempt to force people to come to terms with that fact. “All lives matter” is a hollow, whitewashed response that gave racists a shield to hide behind, allowing them to pretend like they cared about “all” lives, but really from its inception all it meant was “White lives matter.” Co-opting that slogan would have just allowed everyone to brush the conversation under the rug even more quickly than they did.

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                The creator of critical race theory (a very famous and highly regarded black lawyer and law professor) would agree with this guy. If you don’t believe me, look him up. He argued for segregation to remain the law of the land when Brown V BoE occurred, but for ‘separate but equal’ to be actually enforced. Instead, schools were desegregated to change the global American image in the name of the Cold War and fighting the ideological battle. His vision would have seen eventual desegregation over a period of time on a set path to avoid the mass violence and angry sentiment incurred by too fast a change. The same thing happens today with trans and gay people getting called groomers. We were doing alright (in the US) until Obergefell V Hodges. Same thing.

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                  He argued for segregation to remain the law of the land when Brown V BoE occurred, but for ‘separate but equal’ to be actually enforced.

                  I’m very sure I said nothing about any of that and I’m pretty sure I don’t agree with that take. Even if it actually was viable, as in politically possible to have equality while segregation continues, it sounds like ripping of a bandage slowly, very slowly.

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                Mansplaining isn’t real,

                Not a thing I said.

                but quick sidenote here is how

                That was Eurosplaining. I do that all the time to Yanks and I stand by it.

                And yes MLK was rotating in his grave that day. What’s your point, here? That it would befit me to want to see black folks being ineffective in their struggle? Is that really where you want to go with this? Want to continue racistjacketing me?

                And just for the record I already talked about this with actual BLM organisers. They agreed, it was a missed opportunity, hindsight is 20/20, etc. The issue isn’t even lack of institutional knowledge – the civil rights movement is literally the textbook case on how to stage such things effectively – the “trouble” (not really, but form this perspective) is that the whole movement gained momentum so quickly that people didn’t have time to organise properly.

                Co-opting that slogan would have just allowed everyone to brush the conversation under the rug even more quickly than they did.

                Co-opting that slogan would have carried on momentum that was broken by getting into a fight with the slogan. It allowed energy to be diverted from opposing specific state structures to opposing a slogan.

                This isn’t about “oh but white racists came up with it so now it’s a bad slogan”, it’s not about dictionary semantics at all that’s not how social movements or political messaging works. If Black people shout “All lives matter” then that’s saying “Hey we’re people too”. It’s saying “Not just your lives matter”. It’s also saying “if your schizophrenic kid got shot by out of control police, go come join us”: It allows for a broader movement, overall more solidarity.

                You know what’s the worst part about this? The right is really good at this kind of stuff. They understand it. They didn’t go out saying “Black lives don’t matter” or “Fuck N****s”, they went out chanting “All lives matter”. Because they knew exactly that it was their most effective shot at breaking BLM’s momentum, even though they sure as fuck don’t care about all lives.

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              It’s the same way the student protests for palestine died out. The message was inpalatable to the general public because of the rhetoric that was used, whether or not it’s “correct” in the academic sense.

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      1410 months ago

      Previously to the word mansplaining this was just men being sexist.

      I’m surprised Oldsplaining doesn’t exist as a word.

    • @[email protected]
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      Running commentary would still have the same concepts, just not encapsulated in a single word

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      “hello ladies, my name is Larry Haser, you can call me Laser and I’m going to show you all how to bust a move…first things first; you’ve all seen a kangaroo right?”

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    The comments in this posts have everything I hoped to not see again once I left reddit for Lemmy 😭

    Like I’ve been mansplined before and it wasn’t fun. And no, women are less likely to do that because of societal reasons, not genetics 😂. I’m not even sure if some of the comments come from scientists, with the amount of confusion over social/genetic causes.

    Anyways, if you think someone needs help with something, always ask. And when talking to someone, ESPECIALLY if it’s a colleague/classmate, don’t try dumbing down the conversation unless you know the person you’re talking to won’t understand it.

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      Going meta is always allowed. Just say you’re dumbing it down, that you don’t mean to be condescending, and invite them to interrupt if they already understand.

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      I usually have the opposite happen to me. When someone happens to ask me about something, I tend to go into the specifics and give detailed information that I consider relevant and/or useful, but get complained that I’m “showing off” or being a jerk trying to make them look dumb. I kind of get what they mean, but I still can’t figure out where the line is when considering the other person knowledge of something without coming off as condescending or rude.

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        No I think it’s totally fine to talk a lot about a subject that you like. I do it a lot as well! I usually try to stop though 😅

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      Tbh my only gripe with this post is the assumption that because a man is explaining something to a group of women, it’s automatically mansplaining. Although I guess it’s a joke so whatever.

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        Yeah it’s not meant to be taken seriously. It’s because of the girls’ deadpanned expression that it was just twisted this way. Nobody actually believes that this picture is mansplaining. Just a funny coincidence.

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    maybe he is the teacher?

    wait, is he mansplaining how to become a mansplainer to women? did I get the joke?

    or is he about to get his mansplaining degree?

    there is no joke, is there?

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      I see your kind with the “there is no joke” nonsense occassionally, and I never know if you’re wilfully obtuse because you don’t like this humor, or really don’t even understand how it could be funny.

      I’ll tell you it’s kinda funny.

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        thanks for your answer.

        I don’t think it’s funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

        but i often have problems with illogical jokes, and other people don’t seem to care.

        Obtuse? how shallow and pedantic.

        maybe it is like a meta joke, that makes fun of women complaining about mansplaining in settings where it has to be expected?

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          I don’t think it’s funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

          So close. You seem to have Sheldon levels of understanding sarcasm.

          It’s just a simple joke about the term being misapplied to an everyday setting.

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          I’ll bite. The joke is funny because it is this kind of joke that comes from a place of desperation about our current world and how unfair it is and twists it sarcastically.

          There are power imbalances and sexist tropes pervading all of our interactions, men mansplaining stuff are everywhere. Men get believed more often and and people associate more authority with them. Also, men see other men as subjects that they can compete or bond with, but see women largely as objects that they want to possess and control. This is the patriarchy and the setting for our little joke here.

          And in the light of all this sexism, it seems so frustrating to see an university running ads with obviously sexist tropes of one guy explaining stuff to all women around him. It doesn’t matter how anyone of these people identifies for our joke, because the message stays the same.

          Saying “oh look you can do a master’s in mansplaining now” is funny because it desperately goes for any other explanation that the real reason for this ad is, namely sexism. “This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?” It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

          I guess people who don’t experience a certain discrimination or who are not open to reflect upon it, won’t find this joke funny. Because without the pain and the comedic relief, this wouldn’t be funny. For a deeper explanation of this, see this fabulous video by contrapoints on exactly this topic:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtj7LDYaufM

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            “This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?” It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

            yeah, that’s what you believe people are thinking.

            I guess you are a woman. i am a man. so i am mansplaining this to you: you don’t know how men see other men. and you have no right to assume you know. stop doing that, it’s exhausting.

            And apparently, this is not a joke at all, since what you want to achieve is coping with your insecurities, via condensation thinley veiled as sarcasm.

            so the whole thing backfired, and resulted into you having to explain me how i should react.

            stop doing that sort of thing, it is manipulation.

            so, no wonder the whole thing did not make sense at all.

            Disclaimer:

            I was joking .-)

            i get it after your explanation, I am onboard, it is a really well thought out piece of art, i love how it changes my male ineptitude for the better.

            Thanks for the explanation, you were a good catch!

            take care .-)

            nimms mir nich übel, ich hab dich gefoppt, alles gut, du bist bestimmt ganz cool.

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              Joke’s on you, I’m actually a trans woman and have experienced going through the world as a man lol

              P.S. deine Antwort erscheint mir so widersprüchlich, dass ich wirklich keimen blassen Schimmer hab, was du eigentlich Aussagen wolltest…

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                scheise, wieder reingefallen. bin autistisch und stehe auf logik, das ist alles. ich hab spaß am diskutieren, und ich wollte auf keinen fall deine gefühle und überzeugeungen verlrtzen

                moment ma

                du bist en kerl. hör bloß auf mit deinem patriarch gelaber, das ist ja opferumkehr oder sowas. naja, ich weiß nich, was es ist, aber irgendwas schlimmes hast du bestimmt angestellt. zumindest als du noch ein kerl warst, hast du männer und frauen als objekte gesehen und alles das. zum glück hast du deine fehler eingesehen und bist ne frau geworden. ne andere lösung für das dilemma scheints nämlich nicht zugeben, da toxische männlichkeit angebohrt, ist und nie weggeht und so.

                k hau rein, danke daß du mir den witz erklärt hast, hab auch gelacht, war nett von dir, daß du dir die zeit genommen hast.

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                  Äh, nee ich bin kein Kerl und war es auch nie. Aber ich habe als trans Frau trotzdem Erfahrungen, wie es ist, als Mann gesehen zu werden. Und natürlich objektifizieren wir alle mal andere Menschen, genauso wie wir ja auch seit klein auf rassistische, sexistische und andere diskriminierende Scheiße gefüttert werden. Niemand wird damit geboren, sondern wir werden so erzogen. Cis Männer sind genauso Menschen wie alle anderen, sie werden aber von Grund auf anders erzogen. Und natürlich hab ich auch schon in meinem Leben Scheiße gebaut, wie alle Menschen sich mal daneben benehmen. Du scheinst hier so ein schwarz-weiß Denken draus machen zu wollen, dass Männer sich scheiße verhalten und Frauen eben nicht. Das stimmt aber definitiv nicht und darum geht es nicht. Der Punkt ist, dass nicht als schon festgeschrieben zu sehen, sondern eben das zu reflektieren und darüber hinaus zu wachsen. Und nein, ich bin keine “Frau geworden”, weil ich da raus wollte, ich bin halt trans. So wie ich halt auch autistisch bin. Und auch cis Männer können was gegen ihre antrainierten Denkmuster angehen. Tun sie halt nur in der Regel nicht. Ich feier jeden Menschen, der seine Männlichkeit verrät und sich selbst reflektiert.

                  Und ja, ich stehe auch auf Logik und liebe diskutieren :)

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    Every single one of them look like their eyes are about to roll right out of their heads.

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    Its ok. He’s probably explaining how menstruation works

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        The term “public relations” is literally propaganda to make propaganda look better. It was just called propaganda before WWII but then there was a propaganda campaign to increase local resistance to propaganda from the Nazis and then the Communists. And it worked, so they needed more propaganda to get the local propaganda to work again.