Who is surprised?

  • @[email protected]
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    1510 months ago

    There’s a lot of talk about switching to Linux (I use Arch, BTW) but for anyone looking for a new computer, macs are going to look real good. Still user friendly, excellent build quality, and Unix core. A Mac mini can be had for about 500 bucks. I’ve got an M2 MacBook Pro from work and I am super happy with it. Limited gaming tho, but I got a steamdeck for that.

    • @[email protected]
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      10 months ago

      Macs look appealing, but they’re so expensive that I’ve been working with computers for decades but never felt I could afford one. Not a useful one anyway. The power efficiency is attractive but you have to spend so much to get past 8GB RAM and 256GB storage, which is like a PC from 10 years ago. Every time I consider it I end up back with Linux and/or Windows just because of the upfront cost. And because Apple sell to people who are willing to pay high prices, the software, accessories and support for Mac is also more expensive.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        I haven’t bought a PC since my X200s ca 2008 so I’m really out of date on hardware prices, but the MacBook is just amazing. For dev / office work even the base one could be enough, swap is so fast you don’t even notice it. I have a 16/512 model and it’s more than enough.

        For stationary computing, the Mac mini is awesome, under 1k with the same specs as the MacBook.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      1310 months ago

      Mac is a lot easier to get started with, so absolutely. The downside is that people get pulled into the ecosystem of apple, with specific chargers, keyboards, adapters… Many of my friends use macs and they also start to buy iPhones and other apple gear.

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      My situation exactly, and I’m very happy with it. M2 with its speed and long battery life compensates well for some unconfigurable behaviours in MacOS that I have minor gripes with, and for gaming and general Linux goodness, Steam Deck to the rescue.

  • @[email protected]
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    12810 months ago

    If you cant uninstall the software, it isnt your computer. If you tell it to do something and it says no, it is not your computer.

    I dont understand why people tolerate anything else. Its maddening.

    • Fiona
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      610 months ago

      On Arch you can easily uninstall Linux.

      The fun part is that there are even legit reasons to do so, the by far most likely one being that you want to use a different package that provides you with a kernel, such as linux-lts or linux-hardened. Definitely know what you are doing in that case though!

      • @[email protected]
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        1110 months ago

        Linux in general and Arch in particular are kinda laissez-faire in that they’ll allow you to shoot yourself in the foot. Some distros may put barriers in your way, others practically hand you the gun, but at the end of the day, the gun is freely available and it’s your own foot that you’re shooting.

    • Not a replicant
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      210 months ago

      Do you tolerate the TPM/fTPM in your computer? Can you deactivate it? Can you query it? Can you tell it to do something?

    • @[email protected]
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      1310 months ago

      I agree but technology hasn’t really been “ours” for a long time. Rooting, jailbreaking, and open source is the only way to take back a modicum of control.

    • @[email protected]
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      4110 months ago

      Because they make it easy and do a few cool things.

      “Do you want a mic in your home that can record everything you say and do and send that data off to wherever the company chooses?”

      “No of course not.”

      “What about of it will also turn your lights on and off and play despacito on demand?”

      “You son of a bitch, sign me up”.

      • @[email protected]
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        610 months ago

        This is also the reason why typing on the TV is so bad and the remote has a huge microphone button on it.

    • NutWrench
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      2310 months ago

      Microsoft also wants to use 50 gigabytes of your hard drive space (for the Recall snapshots) and make you buy AI co-processors or their software won’t work. They want to use your property to create their own Skynet.

      • @[email protected]
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        510 months ago

        Soeaking of coprocessors…if it’s not in the cpu die, I wonder if we can just desolder the stupid AI chip.

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        Yeah they want you to pay for the hardware to train their crappy ai, pay for the OS so you can train their crappy ai, and then also provide your data to train their crappy AI.

        And in return you get to use Windows.

    • yeehaw
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      210 months ago

      Where’s the windows uninstaller located?!

      • @[email protected]
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        10 months ago

        magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6f1bde857b97b382f8841cdf3a42c530b3f4e34e&dn=archlinux-2024.09.01-x86_64.iso

        Just boot this Windows uninstaller.

        • yeehaw
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          210 months ago

          My computer gives this error:

          Error - Arch Linux is already installed.

  • Slyme
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    1010 months ago

    “…can’t be uninstalled…”

    Well sure it can, you just have to switch to Linux!

  • @[email protected]
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    2110 months ago

    I actually want this feature, but I want to own the data. There are some OSS projects writing basically identical things but they aren’t too popular (https://github.com/jasonjmcghee/rem seems to be the most popular I could find, but I wasn’t able to get the cross-platform version running on my machine).

    I also wrote the dumbest possible clone of this feature in bash, the basic data gathering steps are actually pretty easy to do. I’d build this into a real program but I’ve just been too busy lately with other projects: https://jackson.dev/post/cloning-windows-recall-in-30-lines-of-bash/

  • @[email protected]
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    3010 months ago

    Didn’t they say the same thing about Internet Explorer, it was part of the OS and can’t be uninstalled or disabled…

    Then, antitrust legal action against Microsoft and it turns out they can enable it being removable. Whoops!

    • @[email protected]
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      1210 months ago

      They are doing a lot better about baking stuff in these days. If you uninstall edge on windows you unironically break a lot of systems, can’t even play Minecraft or use teams lol

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        Webview2 is the edge component that is assumed to be installed on all Windows computers. Unlike runtimes which a launcher could detect is missing and install, Webview2 doesn’t have a silent installed that can be bundled. The user must, by hand, go to a website, select their CPU architecture, and install it.

        Anyways it’s clear that, at least within the Windows org, Microsoft is the new Oracle and teams are pointing guns at each other. Hopefully it dies quick to avoid this slow decay.

  • @[email protected]
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    910 months ago

    Just finally switched my gaming PC to Linux mint. It works flawlessly. I can even re-use the steam game files I downloaded on Windows. Never going back.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      510 months ago

      Yeah I’ve been gaming exclusively on Linux for many years now, but sure, a few games don’t work. I’m OK with that since almost all actually do work.

  • @[email protected]
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    3110 months ago

    I hope enough companies realize the inherent danger to their IP this feature brings. Or that the government realizes the inherent danger to CUI data and forces there to be an admin level lock of the feature so normal users can’t just turn it on.

    I and many others can’t just switch to Linux because we are required to use company laptops/desktops that are admin locked.

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      Somewhere, some patent lawyers are going to make millions debating about whether or not this constitutes “public disclosure”.

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      Specially since there’s no Microsoft app that has ever securely functioned past a few days. This thing is gonna be hacked as soon as it comes out an we won’t know until until there’s an investigation into the accidental death of thirty innocent people as passengers in some vehicle somewhere controlled by windows 11 or something… Boeing re-entry vehicle maybe? Nah! You guys are good! Just jump in and come back home already!

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      I can’t wait until the first breach caused by Recall hits the FCC. It’s definitely gonna happen.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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      10 months ago

      If the US government bitching was enough to get the flight simulator easter egg removed from Excel (allegedly), I can’t imagine a similar stern glare from the Pentagon would not cause Recall to magically turn out to be uninstallable after all. At least from any US government owned computers originally so equipped.

      Anyway, isn’t this only going to roll out on “Copilot” compatible PC’s with the requisite AI acceleration chips in them? I would be furthermore immensely surprised if it could not be locked out in Group Policy for corporate customers.

    • thermal_shock
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      410 months ago

      shouldn’t be doing personal stuff on work computer. let the company deal with recall if they don’t want their shit leaked.

        • thermal_shock
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          210 months ago

          then he/she can let the organization decide about recall, it’s not up to him at this point unless he’s the owner. maybe the organization wants recall to further spy on employees and that’s a different reason to not work for them at that point.

  • @[email protected]
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    1410 months ago

    Im so glad I switched fully to Linux. I used to dual-boot, but my Windows partition broke so I stick with Linux. Only regret is why I didnt do it years ago.

  • @[email protected]
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    1210 months ago

    Reading MS description of Recall, I am struggling to come up with a scenario where it would be any use. Sounds like the backspace button would work almost as well at a fraction of the resources needed.

    • Guy Ingonito
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      310 months ago

      Yeah, I feel like any program I would want to use this in already has Ctrl+Z to do just that.

      Can anyone think if any use case at all?

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      There’s a smell of it being some pet project of a big architect.

      Windows 10 had a feature called ‘Timeline’. It wasn’t particlarly wanted by many people and it cluttered up an otherwise somewhat useful task overview. It was canned.

      This seems to be that guy saying “Hey, I know you canned Timeline on me and called it a failure, but that’s just because we didn’t AI it up, and now we can and everyone is going to want it!”