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So you mean like any other industry?
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There was no CP on there, it’s the go-to excuse conservatives use whenever they don’t like something they think is “degenerate”, you’ve seen them do it to trans people recently. It’s the same old BS song and dance I remember from the 1990’s with right-wing conservatives whining about DOOM being too violent for children and GTA being a bad influence on kids, it’s literally the same argument
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So… you’re just guessing that they had this highly destructive content on there, without any evidence?
Do you have any evidence for that? I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t any CSAM on there considering that there was the whole expose, you know, the one that forced them to delete the majority of their videos, because the site didn’t have any way to verify whether they were CSAM or not.
fuck porn
ok KuKluxKaren
just cuz you swore it off doesn’t mean everyone should
and when did i say that everyone should boycott;****hub
then what exactly are you saying?
i do not want arguments on lemmy, now im going to assume that you’re addicted to arguments and now im going to not reply to you Wich is something i hate on things similar to Reddit. also you’re username is probably made by a 4 year old
Holy shit, you gotta talk to someone about whatever you got going on in there
Even if there was some secure, hardened way of verifying people’s ages without handing over PII to random websites, these age verification laws are still utterly ridiculous.
It’s not the government’s job to parent your kids on the internet. If you don’t want your kids visiting specific websites or viewing specific content, you take 15 minutes out of your goddamn day to do your job as a parent, and set up a content blocker on your home network.
you take 15 minutes out of your goddamn day to do your job as a parent, and set up a content blocker on your home network.
Or, I don’t know, talk to your kid?
Oh absolutely but that’s a parent’s decision. They might decide to be a crap parent and do the minimum amount of effort possible but if they’re going to do that then they should be the ones to install the blocker not the government.
I remember when they tried to introduce a similar law in the UK and absolutely nothing ended up happening because it’s utterly unworkable.
Can’t you just use a VPN to get past a content block? Sounds exactly like a project a 14 year old me would research
Perhaps, but most of the good ones are paid, and I would try to set up some way to monitor the internet traffic if I really wanted to go that far.
Teaching the youth to protect their Internet identity feels like a win.
So China is actually based?
There is no such thing as a perfect country
Really like the look of China’s HSR though
How’d you get your user name like that?
You can update your display name on your instance website.
It’s in Unicode. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_indicator_symbol
Like the average person has a clue how to configure a content blocker. LOL
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, you’re right. The average parent has no idea how to block their kids from visiting pornhub. I don’t think that’s an excuse to make age verification required. Parents should educate themselves on this stuff.
Nah, it’s easier if I have the state do it for me while inconveniencing everyone else. /s
Or you know,talk to the poor bastards
“You show me some lazy prick who’s laying around all day watching game shows and stroking his penis and I’ll show you someone who’s not causing any fucking trouble”
-George Carlin
Republicans really believe shit like this and banning abortion will be successful at restoring the nuclear family… at gunpoint.
What it will really do is increase sexual assault, suicide, violence in general…
Of course that will be everyone else’s fault for not submitting to their attempts at coercion correctly. Republicans insist on personal responsibility, exclusively for their many enemies and explicitly not for themselves.
The funniest bit is, they are the reason for the death of the nuclear family and the reason it won’t be restored. If you give the owner class all the money out of the asses of the working citizens that would have kids, herp derp they won’t have kids.
If they really wanted the “traditional American family” to come back, they need only restore tax levels to pre-reagan levels, and actually enforce them. Instead they’d rather threaten everyone for masturbating instead of making new wage slaves they can’t afford to raise so Republicans can also get that dopamine hit of schadenfreude by calling them irresponsible for having kids they can’t afford.
You want to restore the nuclear family? Make it financially viable for us to have one.
One of the main reasons I don’t have children is because it’s too goddamn expensive.
Also I’m sterile. But there’s nothing anyone can do about that.
Fertility issues are also massively on the rise, probably just another side effect of all the pollution we let oligarchs inflict for private profit.
And
NeroBezos/Walton/Buffet/Koch/etc counted while humanity burned.None of my 4 kids, ages 16 - 23, want to or plan on having children.
I want kids. But I need government programs like Universal Healthcare, real paternity leave rights, and maybe even extreme stuff like subsidized surrogacy to make that happen. My family in Japan has that. My SO in Canada has that. Why can’t we have that here in the US?
From reading about the law it sounds like they are trying to take a page from CA’s overreaching prop 65 law that effectively labels everything a potential carcinogen. Based on the data the main beneficiary of this are a handful of law firms. I wouldn’t be surprised if this law is backed by a few law firms who smell easy money.
The irony of this lol 🤣
America is such garbage lol. You guys should really focus on the important stuff.
Pornhub is Canadian actually
Texas is American.
Please stop saying that out loud.
Dude you can’t deny facts just 'cause they’re uncomfortable. Texas is American.
I know it hurts, and I know it’s hard, but you can’t treat cancer by ignoring it. It can be cut out or medicated, but if you ignore it, it kills you.
They’re the ones that keep talking about how they used to not be America and “threatening” to secede.
At this point I’m not sure we shouldn’t kick them out.
Maybe give the land back to Mexico?
I’m not sure Mexico would want it, what with all the Texans running around on it…
(To all my lefty/socialist friends in Texas, I apologize if this is offensive. Also, living in Iowa, it’s not like I have a lot of room to talk…)
But isn’t Texas 'Merican?
And they’re doing nothing wrong.
Texas, the American State, is wrong.
And that’s how we hope the case will go
They are doing many things wrong.
Its full of evangelical Christians. That and Anglo-Saxon culture even minus the evangelical Christians is very squeamish around sex. Just look at the different attitude towards talking to kids about sex that you find in the UK and on the Continent, even the Germanic countries tend to be a lot more open about this stuff than the UK.
Its full of evangelical Christians.
That number has been shrinking for decades, while at the same time the christo-faccists are getting more pushy.
Who are these “christo-fascists”? I’m a big skeptical when people throw that f-word around. I might generally agree with their points but they almost always have a political ax to grind. Hence the hyperbole.
The overlap of people that call themselves devote christians and people that are racist and fascist is huge in America. Mind you, they call themselves christians, they don’t act like they claim.
A while ago I saw someone flying the flags of the “Anti-Antifa” and a huge cross. Mathematically that makes them the “Fa”. If only anyone knew what that part stands for…
P.S.: Oh and this isn’t exclusive to the US of A. Here in Germany the conservative party bears the word “christian” in their name and they have been inching closer with the neo-Nazi party AfD for years now - if not politically then at least ideologically.
Anti-antifa does not make one fascist. Britain and America were anti-Antifa and made sure they regained no power in the early days of the BDR. You might disagree with Western, anti-socialist and anticommunist politics, but they were decidedly not fascist.
This is what I mean. A political ax to grind and a bunch of word games.
By the time you realize you’ve been duped, it will be too late.
Can you give me a source regarding that claim? It is also okay if its in german. All I know is that the communist party which had ties to the soviets was the first party the U.S allowed, because it was Nazi free. A few years later the “Christian Democrats”, which were full of literal Nazis, made them illegal and continued the Nazi stuff without so much killing in Germany, they still funded the facists in Spain to continue murder people in the civil war the fascists began. People suspected to be Antifa couldn’t get jobs or had to go to prison in germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Germany)?wprov=sfla1
The section postwar commities.
They know, guy. Fascists have stopped being afraid of the label except in terms of scaring the “centrists,” but they don’t mind that we know they’re fascists.
I’m late to this, but I think you were unfairly downvoted for asking a legitimate question. The modern definition of fascism that is separate from the Italian political party comes from Umberto Eco’s essay Ur-Fascism: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism
His 14 points closely align with the US Christian right wing and more generally the rise of right wing authoritarianism globally.
At any case, to respond more precisely to what you were saying. I will read the Umberto Eco essay at some point (sorry, its long and I’m busy). Nevertheless, I feel as though a redefinition of the term clearly has a political motivation behind it. Why not simply call right wing Christians by another name? I feel the word fascist is used because of its historical connotation and because it helps people with a far-left agenda get what they want. It’s an effective strategy because conservatives end up defending themselves and trying go prove they’re not Hitler rather than talking about something a bit more substantive.
No worries. It’s a short read as far as essays go. Both the Nazi and Fascist parties were authorization but neither were left or right in the modern US instances. Eco’s whole point was to divest the cultural and time trappings of this brand of authoritarianism into a general definition of modern populist authoritarianism. It’s a good read.
Thanks, I appreciate your response. But don’t worry. I am here to help out FOSS software, and because I believe in the Lemmy project.
I am perfectly happy to share my honest opinions and be downvoted. That’s part of being part of a community.
I am completely with you on the f-word being thrown around willy nilly these days, but there are a disturbing number of self proclaimed Christian nationalists in government and among the evangelical populace. Marjorie Taylor Greene is not the only politician to state this on a televised interview, but is the first one to jump out at me.
It’s thrown around a lot now because it’s apt. And the Republicans need to rely on it more and more as people realize the truth to the capitalist propaganda and they can’t keep in power using BS like trickle down economics. People are understanding that equality isn’t a part of what Republicans are interested in, so they need to appeal to the people who aren’t interested in equality.
The rich are one group that benefits from inequality but are outnumbered by the poor, so that leaves people who believe in fascist ideals, like one race is better than others, or gender, or gender preference, or some other trait that means they can feel superior without needing to do anything that sets them apart.
Which might have been at the root of why people were willing to believe that bullshit that favoured the ruling class in the first place because my own reaction to “trickle down economics” the first time I heard of it was that it was fucking stupid. I still don’t see many people pointing out that even if it did work, it implied that some people deserve the bulk of resources to pass through their hands and be used to get labour and other goods from those it “trickles down” to.
I’d argue that the American dream itself was fascist, at least the versions that have everyone aspiring to be billionaires. The Confederacy was fascist, existing purely because they thought that some men should be able to own others outright.
Delusional. You may disagree with American capitalism and the plutocracy it has become. I’m inclined to agree with you to a point. None of those things are fascist.
The far left is obsessed with fascism. Maybe it is because you are both brutal and authoritarian when you gain power.
The label “fascist” now gets tossed around as much as the label “communist” did in the 50s.
The Ohio Republican party just made a brazen attempt to consolidate power (and failed).
They tried to effectively remove citizen initiatives, because the legislature doesn’t control those.
The Brits seem to have an obsession with pedophilia on par with the far-right in the US that you don’t see in other countries.
It really is profoundly Anglo-Saxon (whether in Britain or the States). I really don’t know why they’re like that.
It’s definitely not Anglo–Saxon as in “inherited from the Germanic tribes of Angles and Saxons”, afaik medieval and early modern English society was quite open about sex.
After the Reformation, England bred or harboured quite a few fundamentalist Christian sects which had a huge impact on English and especially American society.
Yes, you are right. I meant Anglo-Saxon in a more colloquial sense
We’re trying, but our government won’t let us.
Please separate government and politicians and media. Plenty hard work happening in our agencies solving important issues. And of course then congress wakes up and just spews bullshit.
We’re trying, but our government won’t let us.
It drives me insane.
It’s garbage because brainless rednecks voted in Trump and Republicans
Yes it was perfect before huh?
Did you think they can only be garbage or perfect and nothing else? Really?
Fair enough. But nothing significantly changed…
Yes
bipartisans think in absolutes, 2-dimensional mind
Republicans existed before Trump. How can you fail to understand the basic concept of persistence? The Republicans that are still helping to screw up what Trump started were here before, also screwing things up. They didn’t poof in to existence with Trump.
Stop pretending like anyone is saying it was unicorns and rainbows. A false dichotomy is patheticlly inept thinking skills on your part.
The republicans of the 50s are far different than those of the 80s and today. You don’t expect everyone to have the exact same beliefs as you do you?
Huh, almost like I didn’t say it was perfect.
They are not brainless. They have different values than you and me.
Then they can keep their “values” to themselves and out of my government.
They are also citizen of the country you live. It is not yours any more than it is theirs.
Would you tolerate the Taliban in your country? If the answer is no, then you wouldn’t “tolerate” christofascists either.
Both can be true
while that was pretty fucking bad, let’s not pretend it is the singular source of all evil.
Religious zealots shouldn’t be dictating what I watch, read or do.
Especially when they’re watching this stuff too
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Has any site actually tried implement this bullshit?
Here in Lousy-ana, pornhub has a popup a id verification page.
I thought they just blocked it in Louisiana and just had some sort of video telling you to call your rep to fix it. I’m too lazy to find a VPN endpoint in Louisiana to confirm though. So the article I read may be out of date.
Any other sites? Sounds like pornhub is the only one since they are so well know.
So far its pornhub and their partner sites like Redtube, youporn,and xhamster.
Ha, so one company is complying. Did the others just IP ban the state or not care?
I think the mormon cultist state has that too now.
Many states have been doing this.
I’m pretty disturbed by the attitude of lot of the comments on this thread. While this law is probably not going in the right direction, this knee jerk reaction of calling any regulation of porn “puritanical” and an infringement of your rights is crazy to me. I feel like access to internet porn is not a fundamental human right, and it’s not puritanical to maybe want to prevent kids from being unwittingly exposed to a shitload of porn at a young age.
Regulations that require you to expose your personal data for no benefit are all those things and more.
Educating children about sex so they can consume porn in a healthy manner (because spoiler alert: these laws do nothing to stop them watching it) is 100 times more productive and positive than invading the privacy of law abiding adults. But that would actually require time and money which none of these law makers want.
It’s never about protecting children or making the world a better place. It’s about moral posturing and pretending you’re doing something so you can get votes.
I’m all for educating children about sex, and I’m also sympathetic to the plight of data privacy.
However, I also feel like the internet right now is a pretty bad place for minors. Like, there’s so much porn and other harmful content that’s so easily accessible, to the point that it’s easy to find yourself stumbling into it on complete accident. And with the speed that the internet evolves, it seems pretty unreasonable to me to just kinda expect parents just to be able to fully keep up with it.
I don’t think I support this law in particular, but I also don’t know what could possibly be done to any real effect.
But they will watch it anyway? How about you give these kids some education about it instead?
Of course kids would still try to access porn, there’s always ways around walls on the internet. Just like how banning guns wouldn’t prevent everyone from accessing guns, and banning sale of alcohol to minors doesn’t make minors stop getting drunk.
In that sense, I do suspect that if there were more boundaries to accessing porn, children would watch it less, and would maybe be less likely to be exposed to it without their consent.
Porn hub should make a VPN and offer it for free to people in texas They could call it VaginaPenisNards
I’m in Norway and can’t find it in the Play Store. The links from their website seem dead or wrong.
There is a vpn app with the same name, but it has typos and looks suspect.
Not all heros wear capes
Or any clothes for that matter
Some wear strap ons
Guess a state with a big enough user base finally tried this horse shit lol.
Let them go back to jerking off to the underwear catalogue then.
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No, what Pornhub denounces is mandating that thousands of sites across the internet are being legally mandated to collect citizens private, identifiable information, and correlate it with their porn watching habits. It’s a prime example of government overreach. Y’all should stop using the “protect the children” excuse for your facist policy and actually develop a rational, logical argument.
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People can just not visit the site if they don’t wanna look at porn. That also works, lol. There are things that I think are morally repugnant that I just ignore.
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