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    Is it just me, or does he seem to be a bit thinner? Ordinarily I would say that is a good sign for his health, but coupled with this obvious mental decline I wonder if he has really bad PTSD and isn’t eating or sleeping well.

    I would have some sympathy for him as a human. Except, you know, he wouldn’t have any for anyone not named Trump.

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      Sudden weight loss at that age can actually be a sign of poor health as the body starts to fail and can’t store as much fat. I’d say that’s much more likely than him growing a conscience.

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          210 months ago

          It’s pretty well documented that Trump is a teetotler. He is the way he is without the help of any mood or mind altering substances.

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            Maybe no alcohol, but I find cocaine very plausible. A dude named Noel Casler claimed so on podcasts (even went so far to claim that decades long abuse led to him needing diapers), but who knows.

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              Yeah, and the campaign promo photo where you can see that his side table drawer is packed full of “the good” Sudafed.

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      5810 months ago

      I wonder if he has really bad PTSD

      May his suffering be proportional to that which he’s caused.

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      910 months ago

      His hair looks a lot more like normal hair these days, which means he’s yielding to the advice of people around him. Which in his case means he’s losing his goddam mind.

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      Might be even simpler - the elderly can decline very quickly mentally and also physically, and that may he what we’re seeing with here.

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      He is certainly someone who was deeply and irreparably harmed by his even more evil father who drove Donnie’s older brother to suicide. Trump is an example of how people who have everything can still suffer.

      What is sad about Boomers in general and less so for Gen X/older millennials is not being able to stop the cycle of pain and let them be the last generation to be traumatized by their own family.

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        I went back to college (I am an older millennial) and it was insane to me the difference in how kids ten years younger than me were raised. Just talking with them and how they missed the whole “it’s the 80’s, fuck dem kids” parenting style.

        Kids being loud? Beat them within an inch of their life. Kid needs help with school? Fuck you, asshole kid. I have TV to watch. Going to the store? Lock these asshole kids in your watertight Buick in the middle of the summer for some reason (I still don’t understand this at all).

        Then I talk to younger kids who just went along with their parents to the store. It is incredible to me how truly awful Boomer parents were at being parents.

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          Yep. It’s helpful to recall that baby boomer parents were often suffering ptsd from various wars and nobody got help. Now you have people practicing gentle parenting.

          I love my parents but they were truly terrible parents. In it for themselves and duck how the kids feel.

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            Not that many of them went to Vietnam. I was deployed twice myself and don’t take it out on my kids. I can see them having more generational trauma from being raised by a collection of parents that were in WW2. Although Boomers are somehow worse parents than the people who taught the Nazis.

            The correction to gentle parenting is (my opinion) way too far. Treating kids like coherent individuals that can be reasoned with like an episode of Bluey is ridiculous. Lots of parents around my age tried and failed, then everyone goes off in their corners and latches onto an electronic device.

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    Knowing the media, not being able to say anything coherent is a benefit for him, because unlike Harris, nothing he says can be construed as truth, a lie, or anything sensible. If Harris says something that could be even slightly wrong, she will be pilloried, while Trump will be excused because he is senile.

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    If even Trump supporters start noticing that he is spewing nonsense, it must have become seriously bad. They tended to overlook quite some of his brain-dead output so far, I thought they had become immune to senseless drivel.

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      Oddly enough the opposite is true with Kamala. She was saying some wild shit 4+ years ago or just aimlessly rambling. Idk if she just got good scriptwriters since then or what, but it’s a lot better now.

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      Honestly, it won’t make a difference. The people who have decided to be Trump supporters are going to stick with him through it all. They think any criticism is either a hoax or a conspiracy to get him down. I have family members who are completely wrapped up in this guy. They believe anything he says and would do anything he says. Literally anything. It’s pretty scary to be honest.

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    Lets see how this works out on the 10th. It would be funny to see him basically sink on life TV.

    As for me this spectacle is in the middle of the night, I expect the gag reel from the debate on breakfast TV.

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    She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

    Same as it ever was

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      Theodore Roosevelt got shot in fucking lung and still finished his speech. Trump barely or maybe it was glass who knows (literally two weeks later was completely healed) yet got wisk away by four agents then wore a tampon on his ear.

      Fuck weird Trump and sounds like he has dementia.

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      Why do people keep saying this?! Sure, he babbled some when he ran in 2015, but at you could hear the words and insert your own meaning. We can’t even pretend to parse anything out of this speech. Hell, his own supporters are walking out on his rallies.

      If your grandpa was living alone and conversing with you like this, you would quietly be contemplating a rest home in his very near future. People this far gone can no longer live alone.

      Go back to the 80s and 00s and have a listen. Really. Watch a video or three. Doesn’t matter if you agree with what he was saying, his speech was clear, on target.

      Can’t say when I noticed the sharp decline, hard to spot, a boiled frog thing. 2019 I think? Compared to then, the man has fallen off a cliff.

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        I don’t see anything different about his rambling, tbh. I think the only notable difference is him working out nicknames while in front of an audience instead of ahead of time.

        His talking points aren’t landing, so he’s fishing around for something that gets the reaction he’s looking for.

        I think he would have done the same if “build a wall and make Mexico pay for it” was met with confusion.

        He was always this incoherent, but he had “better” slogans to fall back on.

        I’d say it’s probably more due to him alienating most of his former team, and then surrounding himself with more incompetent yes men, than cognitive decline. His baseline of cognitive capacity wasn’t high in the first place.

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        He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016, anyone could have, and did see it, and say it then.

        Unfortunately, republiQans are a cult in every literal sense that matters. trump only needs to stay alive and they’ll vote for him.

        The fact that he’s worse than ever will be borne by them as a secret shame; no one will talk about it, it makes everyone in the cult uncomfortable, and it will not deter them in the slightest.

        It’s 2024 and I think as Americans we still don’t have consensus on how unfathomably broken the republiQans have made politics. It’s virtually unrecognizable from the viewpoint of someone even in the 60’s.

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        Even as late as the 2016 RNC debates he was still speaking clearly, responding to his opponents, and occasionally making a coherent point.

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      Nah, he’s definitely worse now.

      It’s just he gets worse at about the same speed we get used to it.

      So he’s constantly lowering the bar, and if “not trump” is enough, that means everyone else’s bar constantly gets lowered as well.

      If Dem voter’s only standard is not being trump, we end up with people who will take money from anyone

      It’s pretty much the reason AIPAC is so blatantly buying primary elections these days. They used to hide it, now it’s literally “fuck you money” against anyone that calls them out for genocide.

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      I mean Jackson and Lincoln both got shot, at least Jackson wasn’t a bitch about it.

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    He’s talking like my grandpa did a few weeks before he dropped dead, so fingers crossed I guess

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        It may not be his just desserts but it may give us just enough of a bump from am electoral point of view to keep Vance the fuck away from power. Do not prioritize satisfaction over effective.

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      People with access to healthcare can hang on while deteriorating well beyond where he is over the course of many years.

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    He has always told rambling, near-incoherent stories. He has always lied profusely.

    What’s new is how hes slurring his words, and how lethargic he is. It was especially noticable in his recent performance on the Lex Fridman show podcast.

    The early signs of dementia are unavoidable at this point. It might only be a matter of time until Trump has his “We finally beat Medicare” moment.

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      He has always told rambling, near-incoherent stories.

      No he hasn’t. Here is a link to a Trump campaign speech from his 2000 run. Jump ahead to 6:45 or so in the video to where he starts and listen for just a few minutes. The difference between this speech and his current style of spewing sewer-pipe is starkly astonishing.

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        Ok sure, let me clarify.

        Successful presidential candidate Trump has been telling rambling, near-incoherent stories since at least 2015. This type of unfiltered ranting based on reactionary grievances has earned him many followers and many detractors.

        Unsuccessful presidential candidate Trump sounded much more like a run of the mill politician back in 2000, before he became a reality tv show star.

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          Are you telling my this speech from 2016 isn’t the greatest feat of oration of all time?

          Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.

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            He has already explained this. That is Trump just busting the weave…you know talking about multiple topics at the same time and brilliantly weaving them together at the end. Here the topics are: Nuclear, Nuclear, Dr. John Trump, MIT, Nuclear, Nuclear and Persian negotiating skills. By the end of the 289 word sentence you realize that Trump knows lots about Nuclear becuase his uncle was a professor at MIT and that makes perfect sense becuase knowledge is passed down through breeding so maybe his uncle fucked his mom.

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        Holy shit I did not expect that. A lot of the same mannerisms are there in proto-form but he’s actually talking like a human it’s super weird to see

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          Like a human but still like a 3rd or maybe 5th grader. Castro was a “murder, killer, and bad guy.” “NYC was in terrible terrible condition.” I know they tell politicians to use speech that’s not too high level but he undershoots it by at least a couple grade levels. He just comes off as dumb as fuck.

          At least we saw Melania directly responding to something he said in the crowd before he started speaking. Guess she used to give him the time of day at some point.

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        It’s the best… the best syphilis anyone’s EVER had… my doctors…you know doctors say I’ve got great syphilis

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            It’s was big guy, that doctor. Big one. Crying and he says. He says to me crying. It’s syphiless. No, I said! I told him. He’s crying. We got the most syphi! We’re not syphiless! We’re bringing syphi back for that doctor. Big doctor crying.

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              They said no one has ever seen this kind of syphiless before. Tears rolling down his face and he says, “Sir…

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    There better be a huge (UUGE) focus on his decline after the debate. That’s the time to put an emphasis on it - right after millions of people see it during the debate.

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      I hope they give him coke or amphetamines before the debate to try perking him up.

      I also hope it causes him to incessantly freak out about how much he’s shitting himself

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      The press are going to be nitpicking Harris’ earrings or the color of her blouse or something. Major news outlets are never going to treat Trump like Biden,

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    Trump is too old and out-of-touch. He can’t represent the American People and should drop out.

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      Too bad a hundred million people are still too detached from reality to acknowledge this. The unfucking of America will take at least the better part of a century.

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    but guys, he’s doing the weave! English professors in his circle, and there are definitely multiple English professors he knows, all say that the way he speaks is brilliant.

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    “Saudi Arabia and Russia will rapidoo aahhh…” -Donald Trump (my only explanation was that he shat himself)