Daily Fail or Daily Heil, there’s no denying that this is one useless rag of a tabloid.
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I wonder if putting “harming” in scarequotes is their way of saying “We’re not saying that!”
It is. They’re attributing the quote to Steve Barclay. But they’re aware that they’re also editorializing and endorsing the comment.
As someone who is consistently a patient I can very safely say that the only things that harm me are pharmaceutical and insurance companies. (I’m USA based)
Right below a kid who just became an mega millionaire. His time at BVB was fun but he’s the enemy now!
It’s not left vs right it’s wealthy vs everyone else
You just described the left part of left vs right.
No. The true left is all about freedoms and rights - liberal democracy. What you call left is the same authorisation shit as right.
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It works that way pretty much everywhere but the US.
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Nice subject change!
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Cringe
Yes, pseudo-lefties are cringe indeed.
I disagree.
Left is more than wealth. Left is often reffered to socialism or liberalism. Either cases have at its core nothing to do with wealthy at all. Its not because your local politics have the left as wealthy fuckwads that this is everywhere.That said, dont get me wrong, this is some terrible shit to say and the wealthy should piss off.
You can disagree with me all you want. You’re extremely misinformed, though. An entire life of propaganda made you believe some weird shit, but socialism is unequivocally about wealth distribution and liberalism is undoubtedly right-wing.
I didn’t understand your comment about local politics. Mostly because you can’t possibly know where i’m from, and calling the left ‘wealthy fuckwads’ is just bizarre.
A) Liberalism is not left wing
B) Socialism, at its core, is about seizing control of the means of production, as it is they which create wealth.
Liberalism is the ONLY left wing.
The principle of “let consenting adults do whatever they want” is absolutelly compatible with some people having almost all of the money and others starving, but the principle of “the greatest good for the greatest number” is not.
Liberalism (the first) has nothing to do with Left (the second).
Now if Liberalism was actually about maximizing Freedom in all its senses, then it would end up mainly concerning itself with how Human Basic Needs and Money and Ownership Law (mainly of Land) are used to limit the Freedom of most people, but “strangelly” I have never once heard or read a “liberal” mention how the very structures that keep a few in wealth limit the freedom of everybody else.
Trully thinking liberals could end up as lefties but they always stop at the boundary of reducing wealth discrimination, liberalizing access to land anf in general doing things that would free people who are born landless (i.e. most people) from being forced to work for others under other people’s conditions for a roof over their heads and food on their tables.
De facto present day liberals as are hard right (though socially liberal, they’re extremelly conservative in everything else).
That’s some authoritarian delusion. Liberalism gives everyone tools to achieve their own goals. What you want is to erase individuality for some imaginary greater cause. Which is exactly what all and every totalitarian regime is about.
BULLSHIT!
Libertarians are for example in favour of Private Education, something which gives better tools to those born from wealthier parents who can afford the better schools than to those born from poor parent’s who can: providing people who were lucky to pop-out of a wealthier vagina more/better tools hence more/better chances in life than others is literally the opposite of Meritocracy.
Ditto for Inheritance legislation: it makes even the most inept, lazy-ass, destructive scion of a wealthy family out there have far more chances and power than even the smartest, most hardworking, most able creator out there from poor families.
And lets not forget keeping Land Ownership as is now locking in centuries (in some countries millenia) of the most anti-meritocratic methods of acquring it and a gigantic advantage which is passed down the generations through inheritance, all this, again, the very opposite of a “fair playing field where everybody has a chance”.
Libertarianism just wants to remove the Power of the State, a system which is managed by people elected by citizens in a “all votes count the same” process, by the Power of Money, which is mainly the product of past injustices, dynastic and were power has an extremelly uneven distribution (with some having hundreds of billions of times more power than others).
By wanting to weaken the fair playing field (one person one vote) in access to power which is vote by severely reducing that which that power controls (i.e. reducing the State) and replace it by an extremelly unever form of power, Money, which is so unfair that, like in the times of the Monarchy, it is Power which is mainly inherited, Liberarians are some of the most anti-Democratic anti-Freedom people out there, not to mention extraordinary hypocrites.
Most people who call themselves liberals don’t even know what that word means, and just think it means gay rights and anti racial oppression.
So you’re trying to gaslight people into thinking that wealthy people only represent the left or the right? Rofl.
No. I’ve read enough theory to know that the left understands the world as a struggle between two classes: capitalists and workers.
The right believes in meritocracy, the invisible hand of the market, and risking capital as the most valuable asset.
Of course there are poor people leaning right. There is not a single leftist billionaire, though.
…oh, and in case you’re from the United States (you act as if you were): Both of your political parties are right-wing. Your ‘radical leftist politicians’ are centrists at best. Right-wingers don’t become leftists because they’re ok with giving some human rights to the population.
Wasn’t Brexit supposed to save them money so they can pour it back into the NHS?
Ah yes, another lie from the brexiteer brigade which is a gift for future generations to live with.
Yeah, right.
Our GDP per capita is now lower than Lithuania, just another brexit benefit.
Lithuania GDP Per Capita: $28,094
UK GDP Per Capita: $46,371
Brexit (and moreso post-GFC austerity) have been actions of brain-dead economic self-harm, but I don’t know where you got your numbers from here. Even PPP adjusted the UK is ahead.
It was from this, a clip from BBC Question Time I confess I did not fact-check it myself, I allowed myself to believe that a peer and former tory minister would quote correct figures.
You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. If you think that life is bad in the UK, you’d die from starvation in Lithuania.
Lithuania is actually doing pretty fine for itself. Haven’t heard of any people starving to death there. Might drop some sources for that?
Numbeo.com for numbers, personal experience as well. Lithuania might be doing ok, but it’s nowhere near how good the UK is doing. Thus anyone struggling in the UK would be dead in Lithuania.
Oh alright. I misunderstood your comment then. Yes, I agree with you.
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I mean, to be fair, it’s also a business strategy on the Internet.
And in a few years they’ll headline “Lazy students refuse to study medicine, hospitals closing due to doctor shortage!”
Then they’ll tell you how the rich go to the EU for treatment and blame it all in Brussels
It makes you feel rich (and stupid) just like the elite
It’s like every other instance of people demanding better pay the bosses always blame the workers.
Although in this case the bosses agree with the workers, it’s the utter idiots we have in government that are blame.
The bosses ARE the government. Never work for the public sector!
They aren’t idiots as much as they are greedy. They didn’t get into government leadership positions because they want to help people. They do it so they can take advantage of it and make money.
When they fuck up and people suffer, it isn’t an “accident”. It’s design because in the end they are making money off the people paying them off, etc.
Our big mistake is thinking these people are well intentioned, but forgiving their fuck ups because of “incompetence”. No, they are purposefully fucking you over to benefit themselves.
Waiting lists are always at an all time high.
But if healthcare is a human right, then they should not strike as that is violating the rights of others?
If health care is a human right, it should be available to everyone, paid for by those who have the money. And those who provide it of cause should be paid well, from doctors to nurses to assistants.
