Apple execs are already rubbing their hands
QLC is server grade now?
Sure, if you’re fine with the tradeoffs. This is especially true if you’re storying secondary copies on them for processing purposes.
Yes SKhynix owned Solidigm has been Developing really fast QLC Data Center Drives for sometime now.
256TB? That’s huge! How about an affordable 8TB SSD though? I ended up going with a HDD as a secondary drive because it was like a quarter of the price of high capacity SSDs.
I recently paid €80 for a 1TB Samsung 990 M.2and €160 for 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 with half the speed. I feel like the prices are great. And I can easily spot the difference in my every day use compared to my 10 year old 5400rpm hdd that costed about the same back than.
For real. It’s like SSD manufacturers are in cahoots with HDD manufacturers to never step on their turf(capacity.)
SSD manufacs keep chasing useless metrics like sequential write speed in consumer drives, when if they just chased capacity they could kill HDDs forever and we’d all be better off for it. Then again, i guess they’d also lose revenue since they don’t nearly die as much as HDDs, so i guess there’s that.
Or…they could keep with their current trend but actually focus on metrics that matter. Like lower que depth operations which actually make an operating system feel amazing to use like Q1T1. The difference between even an Intel Optane 905p and some of the newest fastest gen4 SSDs currently on the market is still crazy large in terms of how much better the OS feels to use moment to moment for me.
Have you checked prices lately?
Well, 8TB might still not be cheap, but I bought a few of those Crucial 4TB drives for $165 when B&H had their sale. Trying them out for a Proxmox datastore.
I still use spinning rust for long term storage.
Can’t wait for affordable 16tb SSDs to be available. That’s really the only time I can see myself switch from spinning rust. Also looking forward to the for the power saving benefits too. 10 years maybe ?
Yeah, I built my new PC around 2 months ago. Maybe they are cheaper elsewhere but here in Australia they are very expensive. :(
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Samsung is at the Flash Memory Summit in California, showing off its latest wares, announcing breakthrough technologies, and discussing some incredible advances.
Samsung is often the source of the biggest news stories of these events, and it hasn’t disappointed with its announcement of both a 256TB SSDs and unveiling of its PBSSD architecture, designed for peta-byte scale solutions.
And, you guessed it, everything was being framed in the context of being reimagined for “the AI era.” Never worry, as Samsung is here to develop the latest technologies to cope with the “exponential growth of data and its many applications,” attendees were told.
The interface revamp means the new drive is capable of “achieving twice the power efficiency of its predecessor,” says Samsung.
In the quest for maximum data storage within the power and volume limits of a single-server rack, Samsung has created a 256TB SSD.
With such a great capacity in a single device, Samsung and partners like Meta are aiming to make PBSSDs multi-user friendly.
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Crazy to think it was only about fifteen years ago the small Data-storage server reseller I worked for was selling their own in-house server racks - a whole 52U rack filled with Supermicro drive bays to store a petabyte of data was $300k and that was a steal of a deal at the time.
Sure, that system was redundant and this is a single pbSSD, but still crazy to see how fast things are evolving
Nit pick, this is a 256TB SSD, so you’d need four to make a PB of raw space, and probably more than that to allow for RAID and effective space. PBSSD is their name for tech to enable PB scale arrays of such SSDs.
Yeah no doubt, a RAID would be more effective. But still a 256TB SSD is absolutely insane when you think about it, compared to where technology was 10 or 20 years ago.
Hell, my first external drive was 120MB. That was to augment the storage of my 80GB internal drive.
Good lord, I remember our home PC having a 145gb drive, thereabouts.
My first hard drive was 20 megabytes. That was considered hugely advanced… you couldn’t even boot from it, needed a boot floppy.
I remember when my family’s home PC had a 500 MB hard drive.
And before then at school the old comps had no hard drive, just rom for the OS and a disk drive
I had an epic gateway that came with a 1GB hard drive, which was blowing minds at the time. I remember getting 64 MB of ram to upgrade in it so I could try running starcraft at normal speed since it was a lag factory
How much will it cost?
$100 if you are patient enough
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Farewell, son. You were always my favourite, but this is too good to pass
With that much storage, you could probably digitize him as an AI
That’s not even enough gigabytes to simulate the atoms in his small toe
Pretty cheap for a 256TB drive
Does this mean we will see 512GB internal phone storage becoming mainstream for low end phones?
Soon, Xiaomi’s Redmi phones are now routinely shipping with 256GB option, so if that’s the base on that line a 512GB default or cheap option won’t be far off.
If the cost per TB is the same and they’re buying tens of PBs anyway, large commercial customers want fewer, bigger drives. That means fewer slots in servers, fewer storage controllers, and possibly even fewer servers.
Onboard storage on cellphones is all about how much they can charge and how many they can sell. 256GB extra for $200 is about 10x higher than the $100/TB flash storage can be gotten for.
Is it already mainstream… for the people that can afford it (and are willing to pay for it).
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You might want to delete this before you get in trouble for leaking the secret phones you have access to that make you think the S23+ is a low-end phone. Time traveler? CP0 Agent?
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S23+ is not even midrange
for low end phones
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True, I was referring to low end phones.
The highest spec of a flagship model, while good to see, is not what I would call mainstream.
The S23+ isn’t exactly Samsungs flagship model but I can definitely see your point. It’s the same on Apple’s side. It’s there on the mid range. Just not on the low range
Mid range? It’s over $1100!
I meant it’s there on Apple’s mid range. The one right before the flagship
Apple can shove it. $500 is middle of the road for the rest of us peasants
Apple sells a US$429 phone. I’m just saying the middle of Apple’s range, at a similar price to Samsung’s, has up to 512gb of storage
“Low end?”
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By the time is is, it won’t be sufficient. You’ll wish they sold 2TB
Angry Birds is suddenly going to be a 60GB game with an open world, real flying, and large scale multiplayer raid fights.
Nah it’ll be 60gb, but somehow the same game, and lots of cached ads
