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Yeah, but can any of those play the saves I already have on my computer??
The Steam saves, yes, the Steam deck would play them just fine.
Either through Steam Cloud as others have already said, or something like Ludusavi.
Only issue you’ll probably have is if the cloud saves are for a different OS, so if you’re playing on Windows make sure it’s the Proton version of the game that’s installed on the Deck, if you’re playing a native Linux version of the game on your PC then make sure it’s the native Linux version that’s installed on the Deck (usual defaults to the Proton version).
It’s just an issue with the cloud save feature being too dumb, the path to the save folder isn’t the same on both platforms so it doesn’t sync well (although I think it does on some games).
It is rare to see a game get this wrong, the last one I saw was a Borderlands. If you look at a game’s Steamdb cloud listing, they list Windows’s save location, and then Mac/Linux saves are expressed as a rewrite rule.
Cloud saves on PS are handled quite simply - if you didn’t pay for your very own PS Plus then go fuck yourself. I have lost dozens of Aloy hours on my brother’s PS4.
Midnight Suns is the one I know of, and they fixed it early on. :)
I’ve had to fuck around with my Windows saves (backed to the cloud) when installing the Linux version of Wasteland 2 and the two Pillars of Eternity games and I eventually just gave up and installed them with Proton so it would download the saves to the right place for them to work.
If you play Deadfire on multiple Linux devices you need to install with Proton compatibility otherwise cloud saves don’t work at all because Steam doesn’t back up the right folder (it uses the Windows folder name which has a lower case o in the word Of), that means that if you wipe your hard drive and rely on cloud saves then you’re fucked because Steam will have created an empty folder to backup.
And remember, as I said, the Deck installs the Windows version by default but if you have Linux on your PC then chances are cloud saves between your Deck and PC won’t work unless you force the Deck to install the Linux version of games.
Um… Yeah? You about Steam Cloud, right?
Besides that, if it’s a none-Steam game you could just… Transfer the same file to the Deck. Did with a couple of games through Google Drive.
As others already stated, its possible, provided the game itself is compatible with Steam Deck. While there is the Steam Cloud that saves and loads saves automatically (which does not cost you anything BTW), some games do not support the Cloud. As this is PC basically where you have access to the filesystem, you can copy files over. Only thing that is a problem is, that Steam Deck will not get recognized as a drive if you plug it to USB connection. That’s a whole other story, but to answer your question, yes.
Yes, the Steam Deck can use saves you have in the Steam cloud. You can also probably manually copy the files over.
No joke, I’m tempted to buy a Steam Deck (or true Linux phone) because… It can run a local HTML/CSS/JS app on a browser with filesystem access and audio support. This is the power of having an OS that is not locked down.
Speaking of which, what would you recommend for me to run a local HTML/CSS/JS app on a browser with filesystem access and audio support? (No, Android is too locked down to meet that spec) Other required specs:
- Portable: Can fit in a pocket
- 16GB or more usable storage
- Bluetooth support
- Ideally low-cost
Edit: I figured out a way to do it on my phone! I used the “Simple HTTP server” app to self host the HTML/CSS/JS into http://127.0.0.1:8080/.
You can probably encase a Raspberry PI with a battery and a touch screen, micro SD cards can go much higher than 16, and install Linux. Keep in mind that the Linux touch UIs aren’t really great imo, the best experience I’ve had so far is the steam deck.
I have an Orange PI Pro 5 16GB on a box that smoothly runs a full blown Ubuntu Desktop version and would fit in a pocket though it’s maybe a little too thick (from memory the box it’s about 3x5x2 cm).
Total cost was about $170.
The board itself would fit a thinner box, but you might have to 3D print one.
Mind you, a N100 Mini-PC that costs the same is even more capable as a Linux Desktop, but it’s significantly larger and will definitely not fit a pocket.
You can find cheaper SBCs capable of running a Desktop Ubuntu but in my experience (with a $35 Banana Pi P2-Zero) if you go too far down the price scale Desktop Linux performance stops being smooth, even if the board is a tiny thing.
It was actually quite surprising for me recently when I found out some of these things are perfectly capable Linux Desktops.
Decktility maybe
*squints* Sir, that is an LCD model you have there.
I already have a PS5, so the Steam Deck is much more tempting.
You can even stream from the PS5 to the Deck too, thanks to Chiaki4Deck (easily installable on desktop mode from the “Discover” app).
Oh, that’s cool. Now I just need €680 for a Steam Deck.
I’m not sure if it’s the meme but here (Europe) there is a huge difference in price between the basic 512GB OLED SD and the basic PS5 pro option.
569€ vs 800€.
I feel like that’s cherry picking, like I’m comparing the cheapest Dutch webshop price for a new PS5 and it’s € 549,99 vs the Steam Deck which is only purchasable through Valve’s store for… € 419?
Wait why tf do people buy PS5’s here‽
I haven’t even picked the LCD 128GB SD…just didn’t pick the option with max storage. Also haven’t picked the PS5P with the Disc reader…
But anyway. This meme is very specific (and pointless) and it is just targeting a minority who would be choosing between a high end console to play at the sofa on the big screen and a handheld to play anywhere.
I think the main SD group of people, is people who want a handheld, and that group of people generally choose between SD, Nintendo Switch, or other handhelds (like the Asus ROG etc).
Some would go with Nintendo because they just care about Nintendo games. But the majority is just looking for a handheld to play any good games anywhere.
To answer the last question. I have a PC, a PS5 and a SD. So some people who own a SD would buy a PS5. If I’m on my couch I use the PS5. If I’m at the terrace, or on a flight, etc. I use the SD.
I get that but damn, between a Switch or SD who’d choose for a PS5?
I personally already have a Switch (since launch), so many great games on it, which dimimishes the SD’s selling point for me. Those two really do thread in the same waters.
Yeah and recently got an argument with someone saying that the SD was no competitor for the Switch.
In my opinion both are directly trying to fill a market where you can play games anywhere.
It’s true that Nintendo also has their own closed games that can only be played on their hardware (officially at least).
But beyond each console’s game library the need for having a portable console is a more important factor.
… and you have to pay for PS Plus repetitively to play games with friends.
Jokes on you I don’t have any friends
Neither of them are capable of true 4K 120Hz+ gaming, so until then I’ll stick with my PC.
Which you bought for 700 also, eh.
That’s the point I’m making. They’re too cheap for proper gaming.
Edit: Or more like prices are so out of control that $700 is no longer a lot of money for a decent gaming system.
The Steam Deck is absolutely strong enough for “proper gaming,” whatever that means.
It’s not “proper gaming” unless your 1000W water cooled gaming rig is heating up your entire room to 100°, just to show you the latest in ray traced puddles /s
4K 120Hz is my minimum acceptable standard these days, as I’ve stated earlier. 1080p120 minimum for handhelds.
I have a PC that can push 4k120, it’s overblown and a luxury if anything.
My thing is if Sony wants me to pay computer prices, it better act like a computer. If it doesn’t and the trend continues with PS6 then that’s the end of me buying PlayStations.
Can you plug a steam deck to the tv and use a controller? Cause if not, I don’t want it
Steam Deck + USB type C dock + HDMI cable + bluetooth controller. You’re done
Yes? Durh?
This is why people think PC gamers are assholes
Not everyone is terminally online, dude.
The Steam Deck is a slightly funny shaped x86_64 laptop. It has an AMD APU in it. You can hook it up to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and do your taxes on it if you want.
Ah, my kind of fun.
Playing Accounting Tycoon on the Steam Deck.
What’s there not to like?!
Yep. Connect using Bluetooth or via a USB dongle/dock.
Yeah, you can, haha (almost like the switch). You stick it in a dock with HDMI out and add a controller by USB, USB dongle, or Bluetooth.
Sure, but don’t expect incredible graphics on a 4k display. It’s a handheld after all.
What does it go up to? I currently play on 1080p anyways
Hooked up to a TV or monitor it’ll do 4k. You can even use FSR upscaling to actually game at 4K, but there’s still a performance hit and I don’t think any recent games are actually playable in 4K. (Upscaled to 1080P, on the other hand, is a different story.)
That’s what I would do with it too. Good question.
Plugging it into the TV & playing Jackbox games where everyone uses their phones as a controller is a great party trick.
You can do that with just a smart tv though
Can you use a deck on an external monitor?
Two actually
Nice
Yes.
Since buying a steam deck I’ve spent more money on games I can play on it than I would normally for the pc.
That’s still cheaper than buying a ps5 on its own without the extra cost of games.
If the PS5 wasn’t my first PlayStation ever, I’d probably be pretty disappointed with it. Kinda wish I held off and waited for this one, since I’d rather have it, but financing this just doesn’t make sense in my current position. Would rather build a PC and use my Deck for remote play.
This is an aggressively mid generation, I have to admit.
I think the best thing about this gen is running those slightly too ambitious PS4 games at 60fps.
Sales on PSN are appalling compared to Steam as well. Plus you can also get Steam sales on other sites like Fanatical.
Steam also has better remote play, and Steam custom controller profiles with nearly any controller are amazing.
Also nearly no backwards compatibility issues, whereas PS5 will only play/stream limited games from the past.
Steam sales have been crap for years though.
You used to be able to pick up games a year after they came out for like £5 on a flash deal. These days stuff is still full retail price years after launch just so it looks better during the few sales a year. We need to get back to the days of cut price re-releases (Playstation Platinum).
I got a shitload of games from bundles though. That at least is cheap on PC, along with Epic delving into their Fortnite war chest to bribe us with actually free games.
Think the best way to game cheaply on consoles is to pick up physical discs second hand (although a lot of games don’t even launch on disc any more), and be on the higher tiers of PS Plus for all the games. There’s some really good stuff on there, more than enough to keep me busy.
Those flash deals were awesome, I pretty much stopped caring about sales when they ended. Now I mostly use the wishlist and wait for games to come down
The PlayStation store is also a miserable shopping experience. If you don’t know what game you want or just want to browse, good fucking luck finding it there. No screenshots, no gameplay, no user reviews, no related games to compare to, no info about if your friends are wishlisting or playing it. Just a choice of buying the expensive version or the more expensive version, and good luck figuring out which DLC is already included in the deluxe editions.
I honestly realy dont mind lack of info but the loading time is horrendus if you want to browse current sales or just check the game info . And while my internet is not that great there is a day and night diffrence between steam and Psstore.
Shit yeah, no wishlisting, no ignoring, no gifting. Its pathetic.
At least the original PS3 store was decent for its time, but they ruined that.
PS remote play is fantastic (for what remote play is. Streaming still sucks.)
Playstation Remote Play is garbage no matter the location or setup. I’ve tried many over many years in multiple houses. Sony is horrible at this.
Chiaki for Steam Deck/PC and PSPlay app for Android are insanely better quality for remote playing Playstation.
My record that I’ve never been able to match in Tokyo Jungle was in remote play on the PSP from the PS3. When I got a PS Vita TV I tested remote play, got sidetracked and spent the afternoon playing Destiny. I’ve played a couple of times World of Tanks on the phone with the official app (and a gamepad obviously, I’m not insane lol).
Sony’s very, very good at this. Granted the AMD video encoding is not as good as the Nvidia one annoyingly, but it’s up there as average quality.
Now I will say this… if you ever tried it using WiFi? Yeah, for whatever reason Sony’s WiFi chips are a dumpster fire on home consoles, acceptable on handhelds. That would’ve entirely explained your experience.
Now, if you want actual garbage, look no further than the Xbox: when I got the Series S I tried it wired to my desktop, and it was a laggy, overly compressed mess. Far worse than the time I tried OnLive through a VPN because it was not available in Europe, and that’s an achievement.
I have massively better quality, stability, and latency with the RemotePlay app over the internet from PS5 than I do with Steam in home streaming actually in my house. It’s still not good enough for high precision games, but Steam isn’t close.
PS4 can’t stream for shit because it can’t do the encoding.
Interesting. My Steam remote playing from my PC through my house is excellent. I do it to my Steam Link, I used to do it to my phone, and now I also do it to my Steam Deck.
It’s the Playstation-made remote play apps that suck on my PC or my phone.
Both my PC and my PS5 are hardwired the same to the router, and both have all the ports forwarded and blah blah.
PC streaming is extremely hit and miss. I ended up with Moonlight/Sunshine for playing from my nVidia Shield and that works a charm. Steam streaming never quite worked right. There’s a ton of options, and unless you pick exactly the right ones for your setup, it’ll do stupid things.
One can be used in an airport/aircraft/train and the other can not.
One is fit for travelling and the other is not
Also the price scales wayyyy better. Steam Deck starts at 313,65€ now.
if you have less money, buy that, get an sd card, and if you enjoy it put an ssd in later.
That’s $346 in USD, if anyone is interested.
That’s the 512gb version even. You can get the 64gb version for $296 right now, which is a great deal. Upgrading the SSD later is pretty easy too.
Jesus. That’s a great deal. Makes me consider getting one instead of a new laptop.
Not to mention you can just toss a 1tb SD card in, with no skills needed and only minimal cost difference.
Yes, accessing your data off an SD card is marginally slower than off an NVME ssd… but we’re talking, iirc, milliseconds. If it really bugs you later down the line, then you can upgrade the SSD.
You think a microSD is only marginally slower than an nvme SSD?
Found some benchmarks. Load times appear to be influenced by the CPU doing decompression. It’s not the SD being as fast as a SSD, but rather the SSD being as slow as a SD because of this. That’s… interesting.
Load times have always been bottlenecked by the CPU, so it’s not a massive surprise that the SSD is about on par with a decent SD card.
On the PS4 an SSD was faster than a HDD, but not by a massive amount. At least it was quieter though.
Yep. At some point maybe Valve will change that, but for now, it’s a great way to get a steam deck. And even if they do change/fix that later, you’re not really missing out on anything- everything will be the same speed it always was for you.
In the steam decks case yeah.
Well, sometimes load times matter. In Borderlands 3 going off SD card instead of disc drive caused a minute or more of loading time when launching the game.
That’s not the cause- benchmarks have been done on the matter, as you can see slightly down the comment chain. You’ve simply attributed the slow load times to what you think is the issue.
Does it have a USB port to plug in my external hd filled with games?
Usb-c port, so yes, though you may need an adapter… And a long cord.
Unless you also grab the dock, but then you also need a controller.
I’m a PC couch player, I’ve played with a controller for the last decade with my 75" TV.
I’d definitely get a dock for it.You guys are selling me big time on this.
I’ve been told (haven’t done it myself) that the ps5 controller pairs extremely well with the steam deck + dock. I would ask around though- I have an actual Steam Controller that I use, myself, but I don’t think you can buy those anymore.
Which do i choose? The $300 dollar deck and a $100 tb drive
