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Don’t post pictures of text
Lemmy added an alt text field for image-only posts a few versions ago; it would be nice if more people would use it.
At least this post does link to the mastodon post which it is a screenshot of.
You don’t have to use it. Just paste it in the text field before or after the image.
Une procuration autosignée.
Awesome!
I’ve used OrganicMaps in the past, but for searching POIs and ahead route planning its just unusable.
Meanwhile i’ve found GraphHopper, an open source search, route and (experimental) navigation app from Germany. Great thing: its blazing fast! Check it out on F-Droid.
Also check out Adresilo which uses Maps api to find a location then can feed it to the app of your choice.
For the lazy: GraphHopper Maps (Online route planner and experimental GPS navigation) https://f-droid.org/packages/com.graphhopper.maps/
oh this is amazing
Aside from saving places what else can you do with google maps that can be exported?
Openstreetmaps has 8.75% of the contributors Google Maps has.
Organic Maps has 1% the user base Google Maps has.
So we work harder
I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database.
And its still better :)
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The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don’t want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you’ll be patient, but if you’re late for something because you’re struggling to adjust to an app you’re more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps
Agreed! I got one for that too:
Lemmy vs Reddit
Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b
1 billion users on reddit is not realistic
I mean in visitors.
With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is!
Take a definition of ACTIVE contributors, because both projects have a lot of inactive contributors that only registered and didn’t do anything but just one update and left, if any.
Google is known for dropping projects that they can’t monetize enough. Maps’ been around for a while, but it can always just disappear for public use. Or decide that you need a Google account too use it and that’s a privacy nightmare. We need alternatives, but in this case, we need free and open source alternatives. We can’t put all the eggs in the same basket.
internet explorer, yahoo mail, myspace, icq… things change. unfortunately it’s mostly due to a huge company having the resources to promote their product to convince people to migrate but still. people can leave old giants.
Yeah, and Wikipedia, linux,… have become important as well, without big corpo
Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b.
i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments.
Proton isn’t getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar.
Openstreetmap is better than Google where I live (Anatolian side of İstanbul).
So? Every platform starts at 0%.
I think the point is 8× more contributions
This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy.
I’m confused. Say more? Whats ironic?
Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative.
Hopefully you can now see the similarity.
I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though?
I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic… when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users?
Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos.
Organic Maps was put back onto the Play Store the next day day: https://organicmaps.app/news/2024-08-18/good-news-organic-maps-appeared-again-in-the-google-play-store/
Yeah but it demonstrates googles unwillingness to cooperate and give fair warnings.
All of you are invited on [email protected]
Also checkout the many editing tools, such as https://mapcomplete.org, https://streetcomplete.app,…
I successfully used Every Door during my holidays to contribute
There’s a small learning curve I wish some bothered to understand first. Does this app help? The part of this I don’t like is vacationers leaving useless names like ‘Mango lady’, ‘many street vendors’ for a block, or ‘local restaurant’ since they can’t read the sign as opposed marking up the cuisine type, maybe adding an English description, & leaving the name blank. Nobody expects uploads to be perfect but Bangkok is littered with this noise that makes it hard to follow or find things.
I think EveryDoor requires some relatively deep understanding of OSM before actually being a useful tool. So edits like this should be rare with that tool. Many of the edits like this are from when MapsMe was very popular and suddenly introduced editing, without enough nuance in the process. Bad edits do happen everywhere, you need a good balance between people who data curation and newbies making beginner mistakes. In some places, there’s a lack of experienced people maintaining the data.
It takes effort and knowledge to make good contributions, this app is just a tool to do that.
I can only say I myself try to make valuable contributions, some other people might care less.
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Every Door
thank you for sharing, definitely the easiest for Android from my research :-)
Note: there is a comparison of editor apps here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comparison_of_editors
Thank you for sharing the links!
Can OM accept GM link?
This page lists all links that OM is supposed to open, including GM.
These posts are motivating
Right?
People doing things like this is hella faith-in-humanity-restoring.
You seem pretty active with OSM, so I’ll propose this here since I don’t have time to make it.
OSM is very, very popular with hikers and cyclists, and I’d argue rhey drive a lot of it’s use, especially via third-party systems. However, it’s one failing is “gravel” roads. While they support many different gravel road types, they admit on their Wiki that use of the proper terms is low.
Given the heavy use of Garmin devices, especially among gravel cyclists, mountain bikers, and bikepackers, where terrain definition is important, it would be outstanding to have an app in the Garmin store for Edge devices that could report the exact terrain type (compacted, dirt, etc) with a button mash as you ride it.
I will add as a narrowboater.
I found towpaths also have this issue with definition of surface.
I am legally blind. (Some vision but bad)
I have a few times tried to add more ditail to areas of towpath that will help the others like me know what to expect before mooring.
Seems anything that improves this will help in your issues as well.
Not sure if you’re the one to ask, but are there any good alternatives to Strava built on OSM? I don’t need all the fitness analysis and social features, I just want to track my walk route and get basic info like miles traveled, elevation change, average speed, etc
So for the tracking and planning part, you could use OSMAnd. It’s UI is a bit confusing but it does work welll. My typical setup is:
- Plan route in OSMAnd
- Record route with a garmin
- Upload GPX to self-hosted Fittrackee or Wanderer
However you may be asking for something more like RideWithGPS.com?
Check out StreetComplete (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.westnordost.streetcomplete)
It does more than just road surface type, and incorporates location-based OSM editing in a very user-friendly way!
F-Droid link: StreetComplete (OpenStreetMap surveyor app) https://f-droid.org/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/
Yea, I’ve used that, but it’s a phone app. Riders need a one-touch solution on Garmin (or other bike computers, but Garmin dominates the market right now).
It also doesn’t seem to let you edit anything more then a mile away from your physical location. I get that they want accuracy but it’s preventing me from editing incorrect information to a place I have just been.
You can! Browse to the location, and then click menu button > “Download data here” and the questions will appear.
I already uninstalled it so can’t confirm but I didn’t see anything to that effect at the time. I could be wrong.
That said, I got Every Door and love it. It’s got an icon right on the main screen to download whatever area you’re looking at. The UI in general is more to my liking as a geek, whereas Street Complete sorta makes a game out of it (which is awesome if that’s what you’re after).
Google maps is the last vestige of Google that I use. I was never a Google search user and I only use Gmail for ‘official’ stuff.
So yeah, I want this to work.
I left GoogleMaps a while ago, it worked fine for me. The only part of Google I can’t leave is Play Store. Aurora might be the best alternative there.
OrganicMaps is amazing. Strong recommend to everyone. I only recently found out about it.
Any details on why it’s amazing? What does it do or doesn’t?
- It has the map corpus from OpenStreetMap, so one of the best in the world
- It works offline - just download the desired maps onto the device
- That makes it really, really fast. Google Maps is slower
- You can also use it in areas with bad reception. I’m using it for hiking in the woods where there is no cell phone connection available
- I really like the UI - they are f.e. better at displaying house numbers and street names than Google.
- No ads
Google’s maps are decent and can also be downloaded to be offline…? But yeah, it seems like it’s a nice alternative, especially if you want to be free from Google’s grips.
As a cyclist, organic maps never told me to go on the freaking autoroute, but google maps did…
Maybe it’s iOS specific but I had to go to a region and download the map to be able to search it, which is not great
It’s the same on Android.
On the hiking note, it also shows a lot of trails. I used it to navigate to a trail head and was pleasantly surprised to see a rough outline of the trails I would be using plus some others I didn’t know were there.
It even has water markers for longer trails where youd be hiking for weeks or months at a time. Sometimes those spots are dry, but you can clearly see water channels in the ground where it would be flowing.
It shows me where the speed cameras are :)
Waze does that too + reported police, hazards
I see no benefit to using Waze. Openstreepmap works better.
Well i didn’t know it existed so I would have had a hard time using it in the past, I just commented from my perspective that’s not an advantage over what I already use
Waze isn’t FOSS.
Same, I have recently installed LineageOS on my phone and was looking for various replacements for Goggle apps. What I really like about OrganicMaps is that it downloads the maps locally, so you can view it even if you aren’t connected to the internet.
google maps can do that too though
The feature looks made ugly on purpose though (compared to organic maps where you can just download the whole country or select more precisely what you want)
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. I should have really had this information a year ago when I was constantly screenshotting Google Maps, LOL.
IIRC At one point Google Maps would let you download a map for browsing, but you couldn’t do offline navigation. Don’t know if that’s still the case.
Organic Maps does the routing on the device.
it’s had offline navigation for years now
Does the app have:
- Location sharing
- Live traffic updates
- Public transportation
Missing one of these is a deal breaker.
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Yes, you can share location, the widgets aren’t as fancy as Google integration with everything.
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Not feasible without the constant data harvesting in the background, which it doesn’t do. It doesn’t log your every move as Google does. Privacy vs surveillance, will always be at odds.
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Depending on the area. In my country public transportation is way better on OSM than on Gmaps. Oftentimes Gmaps won’t even have large structures like train stations or bus terminals. It depends on users and contributors.
- It would be cool if there was an opt-in libre database to which we could submit pseudonymous traffic data. It would be hard to prevent sybil attacks though.
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I tried this for my hiking trip and it is really good for that. But when i tried to use it as a navigation tool with my motorcycle it lagged pretty much all the time and couldn’t keep up with my position and speed. I tried to change permissions for the app, but so far nothing worked.
I use Magic Earth for navigation (mainly through Europe). That works beautifully for me - even offline.
That’s a shame. I just want to say that this issue is definitely not universal as I use it for navigation while driving and it works very well for me, and I’ve heard the same from others too. I’m not sure why it isn’t working as well for you.
“My bike is too fast for GPS” :D
