• @[email protected]
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    1347 months ago

    The rule is buy the default-gendered variant. If there a special “men’s section” or “women’s section” for a certain product category it means you’ll be ripped off.

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      Especially women’s. In French we call it “la taxe rose” (the pink tax).

      • @[email protected]
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        Now men’s products have a “for men” or “tactical” tax where they strap fake MOLLE on something that really doesn’t need it.

      • @[email protected]
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        the French have such a way with words, that’s almost as good as “le cigarette will cause le cancer”

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          Not sure I appreciate the irony. But you’re correct that it sounds very similar in french.

          One could say: “la cigarette va causer le cancer” although that sounds very “english” and is probably what someone who learnt french knowing english would say. The more “fluent” way would be “fumer peut mener au cancer”. But both are technically correct.

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        From my experience all of mens clothes have higher durability. I could just be buying shitty clothes, but ill have ripped stitches and fallen buttons a week after purchase while my husband is still sporting the same 15 year old wardrobe with minimal damage. My shirts are so thin i can see clear through them and would need to layer 3 to match my husband’s shirts. I dont purchase them off amazon/temu/etc, but it feels like that’s where they came from most of time.

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        It’s a lot more than socks. Went looking for a duffel coat once for work and checked both isles in stores. Mens coat - nice woven and well fulled 100 percent wool, thick quality stuff, Women’s isle, cheaper felted wool half the thickness… Same price, same basic style, same store.

        Ever since whenever I go looking for stuff I check both isles. Higher quality fabrics are generally reserved for men’s items though women’s stuff is priced the same. You’d never know the difference if you only shopped one gendered option.

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          Off-topic comment.

          I appreciate the misuse of isle instead of aisle. The mental imagery of navigating around stores compromised of isles makes me want to go shopping so I can go on an island hopping adventure looking for booty to haul back to my kingdom.

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            57 months ago

            It could be highly inconvenient, since the Isle of Mann and Isla Mujeres are so far apart.

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          Apart from fashionistas, “standard” men’s style is far more static. Cuts, materials, colors, and patterns don’t deviate far from the baseline from year to year, so garments tend to be a bit sturdier and longer lasting.

          As an example, picture a guy in a Henley, cargo shorts, and work boots. What decade is he from? Okay, now put him in straight leg jeans and a flannel shirt. Was this picture taken yesterday? In the 90s? 2005? Who knows, guys have been wearing that for ages, and will be for ages to come.

          However, pre-pandemic I think high-waist flares were one of the main jeans trends for women. Five years later, it’s low-waist straight-leg, right? Or have they shifted back to skinny jeans? I think early-2010s was the last time capris were the statement look, but hell, I truly don’t know. The point is, women’s styles seem to change not only year-to-year but season-to-season. Today’s trend is tomorrow’s faux pas is next week’s retro is next month’s vintage… sure, I’m exaggerating, but women’s fashion does lend itself more to sweeping change.

          The criminal part is that woman-specific options are underconstructed and overpriced compared to men’s clothing. That, and the lack of pockets. Seriously, my heart goes out to anyone who wears clothing targeted to women. I’d be fucking lost without pockets.

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            I suppose that assumes a woman cares about fashion and that fast fashion is something every woman wants to buy into. A lot of women I know shop vintage because they want items they can wear reliably for years and modern items do not offer that level of quality. If you want to buy out of the fast fashion assumption of “need” it seems like you have to literally go back in time because if you buy fast fashion it is literally trash in a year. Nobody will thrift it worn because it will be worn out. It doesn’t seem like brands have options for women that lie outside of this system in addition to those junky options or offer those junk items at a lower cost. If all you can buy new is junk then stepping outside of the system requires you to avoid the ease of simply buying new off the rack. It requires work and luck. If you grew up inside that system that’s your established normal.

            We can say that mens fashion is static… But why can’t both gendered fashion silos have more static options or at least price fast fashion at a different price point to reflect those cheaper materials? It seems like saying one sex has inherent requirements for fubgibillity which seems honestly kinda sexist. There’s a lot of men who want more interesting fad like stuff and women who want staples that will last a decade.

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              Oh, I full-on agree, hence that final paragraph. I’m one of those idgaf-about-fads types, but I know plenty of folks who do care and who get hosed by the system as it currently exists. Fashion as a whole is pretty much a racket as far as I’m concerned. But what isn’t these days?

              The reason they won’t price fast fashion bs lower is because they don’t have to. Trendy things sell at inherently predatory price points, then they declare a new “what’s hot” before the sales drop off. Capitalism is a mfer, and folks are exploited at every rung of the fashion ladder.

              I guess that would change if enough people stopped buying in, but do either of us see that happening any time soon? I don’t, and as frustrating as it is, I think you don’t, either. So garments marketed primarily to women remain pocketless and flimsy, and those marketed primarily to my-tastes-don’t-change men continue to trend towards work-wearish looks that are at least marginally sturdier at roughly equivalent cost.

              Except for those goddamn fishing shirts. Who decided that was a thing? They’re terrible.

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            The criminal part is that woman-specific options are underconstructed and overpriced compared to men’s clothing. That, and the lack of pockets. Seriously, my heart goes out to anyone who wears clothing targeted to women. I’d be fucking lost without pockets.

            Trans girl who sews her own clothing here: I’ve honestly stopped bothering to add pockets to my clothes, because my handbag has REALLY grown on me and takes care of most of the need. Seeing all the guys doing pocket-checks, when I just grep my handbag and have everything in it is almost getting funny at this point. 😊

            That said: Fuck the fashion industry, for so many reasons, including for what they did to fashion! Like: Even if we ignored all the human-rights abuses, the trash quality that they produce, the needlessly bad impact on the environment and all of these things, and we really shouldn’t(!!), I just assume most people here have already heard about those, that industry still has no fucking idea of what personal style is and how to support it. It’s a bunch of business-assholes that decide that some thing X is “in” and then you get only that, with the difference between X and the previous X being minute details in the cut, but it still remains the same concept of short, narrow skirt for example.

            You are looking for a ankle-length circle-skirt (=flat lying skirt, very wide)? Tough luck, sew it yourself, nobody offers that! You want a long dress with long sleeves? Yeah, that doesn’t exist! (Unless you sew it yourself, like I have, which gave me the most comfortable piece of nightwear I’ve ever owned that I’m even somewhat comfortable to wear in public if I add a visual seperation with some form of belt.) I could go on…

            In short: The fashion industry has sold people on the insane idea that jeans with a slightly different cut are a different clothing-style. They are not!

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      I have a nice Pikachu hoodie which said it’s for women on the site I ordered it from but I didn’t care because it’s cute and I liked it. The only thing that’s mildly annoying is having to think about the sizing difference (which I guess is kind of the point of the separate sizing numbers, just to be that extra bit of annoying for people who want it anyway).

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      Jokes on you, the buttons will be on the wrong side! Ahahahahaha

      Edit: yes I know t-shirts don’t have buttons. Bad attempt at humour. Not deleting because I stand behind my mistakes.

    • @[email protected]
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      Me frequently accidentally finding myself in the men isles after finally finding a top with a high neckline.

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        As long as you buy the right size it shouldn’t be an issue, most clothing in standardized sizes aren’t much different between the genders besides the number being different (a men’s size S will be a women’s size M) so as long as you get the size right it’ll be fine.

        Edit: Size comparison flipped the wrong way, fixed it.

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            Yeah I just realized my mistake of getting them backwards, I just fixed it. Glad I was still able to make the point even though I made an embarrassing mistake 😅

  • Sabata
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    I just want to smell like something other than tree, cold tree, or beach episode tree.

    • @[email protected]
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      What about sea salt & gunpowder? Someone might question your masculinity and sexual orientation otherwise!

      • Sabata
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        Hear me out, gunpowder and ozone so you smell like what astronaut say space smells like.

      • @[email protected]
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        Ahh, you are a manly man and ready for Duke Cannon Naval Supremacy bar soap or perhaps Victory! is more for you.

        ***Google Duke Cannon for an amusing marketing strategy of men’s products. Who doesn’t want a Big Ass Bar of Soap?

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      One day I plan to enter the cologne phase of life but it hasn’t happened yet. I like smells but I don’t like mall shopping.

      • Captain Aggravated
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        Building furniture out of oak, being in and around that much white oak sawdust and shavings, made me smell like an empty bourbon bottle.

        • Sabata
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          My old job also made me smell like an empty whiskey bottle, but it was an office.

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        Sawdust, yes.
        Idle firewood loitering, no.
        Burning tree bones, yes.
        Vanilla cookies, fuck yes.

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      I’d prefer not to have any smell, but that is apparently really hard to do.

      And why do all products for men have to look like I’m cosplaying a sci-fi tactical commando?

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        I assume having no smell is really hard to do and to cover up the slight chemical smell they put a stronger smell over it. That being said I am definitely not a deodorant taste tester so 🤷‍♀️

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        I found that out when I had an allergy skin patch test and found out one of the things I’m sensitive too is fragrance. The most important thing was finding a hair dye that I’m not allergic too but after 10 years, I’m starting to get a little itchy when I get my hair done.

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        I have persistent skin issues (psoriasis) and most specialized products are unscented.

        This may be the singular upside to this situation ^^`

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          You are not alone. I have bad eczema and my wife has psoriasis as well and all of our care products are mostly scent free. At this point I think I’d rather not smell like sandalteakvanilla beach wood lol

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        I also prefer to have no smell, speed stick makes a unscented deodorant and I have a scentless body wash, havent found a good shampoo yet though. Just using head and shoulders.

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    Switched from using Old Spice Body Wash (RIP Krakengard) to Dove beauty bars and showers have become infinitely more pleasant. It feels good to apply, it smells like oatmeal and rice milk, and it always gets the stank off my nuts and ass the first time, unlike body wash.

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    At wal mart: “blue Equate brand men’s loofah $2” “blue Equate brand women’s loofah $1”

    That’s not how this is supposed to work.

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    The only women’s bath product I really see a difference with is those jarred creams with abrasive material in them (like strawberry seeds or sugar; not micro plastic beads). They’re the only thing aside from Lava brand hand soap that actually exfoliates my skin so I don’t have weird hard spots of gunk in my pores along the outside of my thighs. My ass is so, so smooth now.

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      Can also vouch for shae butter + walnut shells. One of my friends makes them for fun and they leave you smooooth. Might not be good for pores though, especially for oily skinned folks. I’m basically 50% paper man, so I need all the moisture I can get.

      Also gotta be careful with oils in the bathtub/shower. They leave the floor deadly slick.

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    Sometimes I buy womens soap because it doesn’t make me choke. If I can’t find soap that doesn’t smell like I’m swallowing razorblades then i’m going for the womans soap. Luckily I haven’t been faced with that situation recently.

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      I like the ones that are just tea tree or sandalwood scented, I don’t need to smell like I bathed an axe body spray, and it works for both genders. (As if we actually need a different body wash lol)

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      Right?? Like I only use the ““male”” products when I’m showering in the morning (which is rare), because I don’t want to be smelling extra hetero moose joose maxxlather in my beard as I’m trying to get all cozy wozy for beddy bye time.

      So that’s my story about why I have a men’s face wash from two Christmases ago that is barely used.

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      Shampoo, body wash, laundry detergent, engine degreaser, drain cleaner, ant poison and steak sauce.

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        “𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓕𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻 𝓦𝓪𝓼𝓱™︎ 𝓲𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓼𝓲𝓰𝓷𝓮𝓭 𝓼𝓹𝓮𝓬𝓲𝓯𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓾𝓹𝓹𝓮𝓻 𝓹𝓪𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓵𝓮𝓯𝓽 𝓮𝔂𝓮𝓫𝓻𝓸𝔀.”

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    Me buying women’s vitamins because they’re the only ones with iron at the local dollar store.

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      I did that with buying “one-a-day” vitamins for seniors because they were a quarter the price of standard men’s vitamins. I checked the stats and ingredients, they were about identical and from the same brand.

    • @[email protected]
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      This isnt entirely related, but your comment made me think about the time I went into CVS to buy multivitamins and noticed all of the “men’s” included a picture of an orange while the “women’s” did not. All the other fruit pictured were the same between the two, but not oranges.

    • @[email protected]
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      Earlier this year a doctor advised us (male and female) to take prenatal vitamins, and yesterday a nutritionist told us the same. They really just have everything anybody needs, apparently.

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      I do this. You’d be shocked at the number of womens supplements that don’t have iron either.

    • @[email protected]
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      There’s actually a really good reason for that. The body doesn’t have a good way to get rid of excess iron except by bleeding, so it’s fairly easy for someone without a period to get iron poisoning from vitamins with iron in them. Women’s vitamins assume the person taking them loses a significant quantity of blood every month. Not only should men not take them, women whose birth control eliminates their period completely shouldn’t take them either.

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    When it comes to cosmetics I thought it’s the other way around because men who will buy cosmetics are generally higher earners or something like that, so they’re generally willing to pay more.

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      It depends, I find that many of the Men’s products can smell more “normal” and less rich.

      But then there’s old spice – which I use daily but I don’t think is as pleasant as women’s deodorant scents (but generally work better in antiperspirant imo so it’s not worth thinking too much about.)

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        Next time you have the opportunity give Old Spice’s Wolfthorn scent a try and tell me it’s not just orange Starburst.

        • @[email protected]
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          One of these is real: “Jungle Road”, “Arctic Blast”, “Alpine Machete”, “Lost at Sea”, “Mayday Mayday”, “Why is nobody reading these and calling for help”

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    Me at the grocery store yesterday: “These cookies look delicious! And they’re 90% off!”

    Wife: “Those are lactation cookies…”

    Me: “I didn’t know that was a thing… They still look good though…”

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          It’s naturally meant for someone who is breastfeeding and contains nutrients which would be helpful in that process, though ultimately they are just food, for someone who isn’t breastfeeding the extra ingredients don’t have any effect (it’s not like they’ll cause lactation in males if that’s what you’re wondering).

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          Ohh…i see
          Sad thing it’s not cookies that came from tits (or breast milk)
          But at least with that miracle cookies i can make the real lactation cookies

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          I call bullshit on this kind of product! This just reminds me too much of the phytoestrogens that ruthless scammers sell on places like Amazon to trick uninformed trans girls into giving them money and believing they receive some medication, when it does nothing whatsoever for them.

          The only “phytoestrogens” that actually do something are “phytoestrogens” sold by trusted homebrewers that are labeled that way to avoid seizure at the border.

          In order to achieve medical effects, you need proper medication, in this case probably Prolactin. (I’d have to check to make sure, but there are plenty of reports of trans women who succesfully induced lactation medically to feed their kids and had no problem whatsoever after that point.)

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          why did they have to take that name for a milk boosting plant and not the name of an elete squad of cyber astronauts or something :/

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          Oh that term is such wasted potential! I thought it was going to be about radical public breastfeeding as a form of protest!