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Why would MBS be cool with giving Elon $22 BILLION for his fuckup?
Same reason idiots kept throwing money at trump back when his resume was just a list of bankrupcies (several hotels, an airline and a casino), moneyed people are way stupider than we think.
Guy made a couple of lucky investments and convinced himself he’s a superior being.
Perhaps Elon ran his mouth, was forced to buy Twitter because signed papers and MBS saw an oppertunity to remove Twitter from the scene?
He wants Twix to be Truth Social, but also profitable, and doesn’t understand why he can’t have it both ways.
Right Twix.
What’s this got to do with Twix? I love a good Twix…
Fuck me, now I gotta go buy a Twix. And a Lion, do they still make those? God they were the best.
Raider is now Twix
Twitter is now X
Twitter X
Twix
Same same
I like Xitter still better. I dunno about his current ties to China but in Chinese you pronounce xi as shi AFAIK.
I had no idea Twix used to be called Raider, I’ve learned something new!
Snickers used to be called Marathon, I know that one :-)
Twix was called Raider in many european countries, above all all german speaking countries, don’t ask me why. When they got renamed to Twix in 1991 about 70% of all countries that offered the bar already called it Twix.
The renaming happened with the slogan “Raider heißt jetzt Twix, … sonst ändert sich nix” broadly “Raider is now called Twix, … nothing else changes”
The Slogan ofcourse was used by many german speaking comedians and satirists when it came to Twitter… “Twitter heißt jetzt X, … sonst ändert sich nix.”, with the added bonus that a lot changed, for the worse, underlining Muskian lies.
Oooh so there’s actually much more to it than meets the eye! Damn. Thanks for taking the time to explain :-)
I bet this information will be mixed with my COVID fever dreams and is going to remain lodged in my brain as core knowledge somehow forever :P
Back in late 2022 I was in an argument with my (adult) nephew about how the government isn’t limiting free speech on Twitter. I was explaining how “the free market” is deciding whether Elon will sink or swim. He just could not understand how the government -wasn’t- responsible.
…idfk
(Yes, there were some Governmental take down requests, but none of them seemed very sus to me)
I had a similar discussion with some people at a barber shop back when Pre-Elon Twitter banned Trump. They were complaining about free speech and I asked if they knew what it actually meant (in the US). When I explained that we are ONLY guaranteed free speech from the gov’t, and that Twitter was a private business and could ban whoever they want, the same way this barber shop could tell someone not to ever come back everyone got real quiet like “oh shit I have to rethink my whole world view”. I actually got thanked at another time by one employee for telling them how it actually works.
That’s dope. It’s rare to get through to people like that.
Yes we all saw it. Do people really need to get an ELI5?
I’m just curious tbh if there were people that didn’t realize all of this?
Some may have only caught the story insofar as “Twatter refuses to pay fine, is banned in Brazil” is concerned, with the other details left unfilled. The short summary here emphasizes just how much of an unforced error this all was.
You could have included that they’re using Cloudflare now to work around the ban.
If that works then they aren’t doing the ban properly.
Cloudflare agreed with the Brazilian govt to keep the ban working.
But that only relates to people only reading headlines. From what I read, almost every article at least explained some of the previous steps within this list.
Not everyone feels the need to read such articles. I’m glad for this summary. Provided it’s true, but it’s entirely believable.
I picked up about 20% of it because I don’t give a shit about Twitter
Or Elon…
Correct
What kind of question is that? What kind of answer do you want?
I actually appreciated the summary! I only heard the broad strokes about Brazil banning Xitter.
I did not know anything about this. The only social media I use is Lemmy (and Facebook Messenger reluctantly) and I avoid the news. I also filter out the word Musk cause I don’t give a crap about that piss baby. But this ELI5 was great, always nice to see rich fucks get fucked.
You’re asking if there are others on Lemmy without your perception and understanding of the world?
I think this might be a “sit down” talk…
I’ve been waiting all day to finally learn something from people that get their news from pictures of Twitter posts!
Here’s a response assuming you’re question was in good faith. I follow lots of news stories from multiple sources and I count lemmy as one of those sources. This was my first time hearing this. This is part of my process to stay informed. If OP had not posted this, I may not have known. Hope this helps!
Thanks. I’m just flabbergasted by the herd mentality and the fact that people get their news like this.
Where specifically should we be getting news from?
First time I’ve heard about any of this.
What an asinine and worthless comment.
Stay on blue sky guys.
And keep leaving Twitter!
There’s no way I’m leaving Twitter… because I never joined.
Good job!
Elon should have received additional fines for his taunts and threats, honestly.
- Brazil asked Elon to ban 7 fascist accounts spreading disinformation
- Elon refused pretending it was a free speech issue even though he complied multiple times with similar requests from right wing govts
Gotta say, this is new information to me. I’ve briefly looked at the stories and the banning of twitter, but I never realized this was entirely because Elon wouldn’t ban accounts as he does for right wing government.
Elon seems like a kinda shitty guy.
Elon seems like a kinda shitty guy
Hot take!
I mean it genuinely is because of the “kinda” and “seems”
“Elon is a shitty guy” is one of the coldest takes out there at this point
Elon hasn’t said a word, but we will.
Fucking emerald spoon clown.
That is the most accurate description for him. Zero notes, pitch perfect.
Brazil didn’t shut down “X”. They did it themselves so X wouldn’t have a Brazilian entity subject to Brazilian court orders. That is why Starlink got caught in the mess.
Local press and lots of people in Brazil criticize judges because, due to flaws on local laws and 80’s redemocratization efforts, they have some perks, privileges and exceptional powers no democratic country would give to them. There are cases ranging from content showing them traveling overseas being not visible on local internet and TV people being given cease-and-desist orders for disagreeing with some judge decision, to people being detained by Federal Police agents for criticizing justice system inside a plane that happens to have a judge among the passengers - not to mention those FBI agents detained at Rio de Janeiro airport for containing a judge’s wife who got unruly in a plane for drinking too much during the fly.
This time however he asked for it, and our justice system toke the right decisions. Elon Musk should know how ridiculously overpowered our judges are before acting like that.
they have some perks, privileges and exceptional powers no democratic country would give to them
wait until you learn about the supreme court in the USA
First of all, Elon is probably just trying to do some marketing bullshit But Brazilian STF is full of crap also, Alexandre de Moraes is Just censoring people without any judgment or justification, he tried to prohibit the use of vpn and created a “fake news” committee where he get to say what is real or not
I tried searching for sources that back up the claim that the judge created a fake news committee under his control and couldn’t find anything.
Not saying it’s false, but do you have a source for that?
Sorry, I think I translated poorly by “fake news committee” i was referring to the “inquérito das fake news”.
This was very controversial even when was born, so you probably will find a lot in Brazilian fonts.
The whole ordeal is still going in under some secrecy, but I suspect the main parts that make it controversial are these, from the given article:
- When the inquiry began, it was from an “elastic” understanding of the internal regiment of the Supreme Court. It’s a process that, under normal circumstances, requires either a police or the Public Ministry to ask to investigate first.
- In a lone vote against opening the inquiry, judge Marco Aurelio said the process should’ve begun via the Procuradoria Geral da República
- Everything is still going under secrecy.
- There’s no definite end in sight for the investigations
The Brazilian STF has MANY flaws, chief among them of having no “power” that oversees it (the senate does, in theory, but no senator is dumb enough to fight the judiciary), but Moraes is the only son of a bitch with a sprinkle of decency (which I don’t expect to last past this “hunt” on the far right) and actually being proactive, unlike every other judge who is a morose sloth that will only react through “notas de repúdio” (notice of disapproval) that nobody gives a single flying fuck about and sit on fucking cases for over a year because there’s nobody to tell them to do their fucking job correctly*
Very important to keep in mind is the context. During the entirety of bozonazi’s presidency (2019-2022), it was a known “secret” that he used everything he could to incite people against the supreme court. The Gabinete do Ódio (Hate Cabinet), which kept the crazies “informed” with bullshit, was a fact known by everyone. Among said crazies were the fuckers that, in june 2020, fired fireworks at the STF building as a “warning”. Bozo and his flunkies threatened the supreme court every fucking week and bozo himself used a meeting with foreign dignitaries to cast doubt on the voting machines. To think all those threats were empty would be pure stupidity, especially when they culminated with the January 8 failed coup.
*Just look at Gilmar Mendes and his famous “perdido de vista” with ADI 4.650, where the old fart sat on the case for 18 months. It wanted to make it illegal for companies and corporations to finance political campaigns. The old fat fuck was in favor of keeping them legal but he knew if the judgement continued, his vote would lose, so he just sat on the case while the 2014 elections rolled with lots and lots of corporate money flowing around.
You know they dont
And I am not they, I do not speak for a group or Nothing of sorts, I just feel sad when my country situation is just overlooked, please don’t put me in the same basket as whatever you was putting me
He tried, he can try whatever he wants, it’s not him who decide
But remember kids, he’s some sort of business and tech genius!
The real life inspiration for super genius Cave Johnson from Portal.
Yeah, but Cave Johnson was a compelling and interesting individual.
A bit unfair since real life idiots don’t have good writing teams.
Sometimes they have good PR teams though. Musk used to have a PR team back when he was rich enough to afford one but not rich enough to not need one.
Definitely has managed to invest in some incredibly profitable stuff but he also says and does the absolutely stupidest shit imaginable. It’s astounding
a lot of that profit is derived from a set of rug pulls that only work because he had the money of the victims to keep pushing his image in the media
Happy cake day
Having an account on X supports this shit whether you like it or not it.
I wish I had his problems.
This is a hint at why he wanted involvement in PayPal and wants X to be a financial service. You can’t take away money from a system he controls.
The government can absolutely take away money he controls.